2024-01-03 16:06:42 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> !startmeeting CentOS Hyperscale SIG
2024-01-03 16:06:44 <@meetbot:fedora.im> Meeting started at 2024-01-03 16:06:42 UTC
2024-01-03 16:06:44 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting name is 'CentOS Hyperscale SIG'
2024-01-03 16:06:57 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> !topic Roll call
2024-01-03 16:07:03 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> !hi
2024-01-03 16:07:04 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Neal Gompa (ngompa) - he / him / his
2024-01-03 16:07:13 <@rcolebaugh:matrix.org> !hi
2024-01-03 16:07:15 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Raymond Colebaugh (rcolebaugh) - he / him / his
2024-01-03 16:07:27 <@davdunc:fedora.im> !hi
2024-01-03 16:07:29 <@zodbot:fedora.im> David Duncan (davdunc) - he / him / his
2024-01-03 16:07:35 <@davide:cavalca.name> !hi
2024-01-03 16:07:36 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Davide Cavalca (dcavalca) - he / him / his
2024-01-03 16:08:02 <@teknoraver:matrix.org> !hi
2024-01-03 16:08:03 <@zodbot:fedora.im> No Fedora Accounts users have the @teknoraver:matrix.org Matrix Account defined
2024-01-03 16:08:16 <@teknoraver:matrix.org> I need to add it then
2024-01-03 16:09:04 <@jordanrome:matrix.org> !hi
2024-01-03 16:09:05 <@zodbot:fedora.im> No Fedora Accounts users have the @jordanrome:matrix.org Matrix Account defined
2024-01-03 16:09:08 <@anitazha:matrix.org> !hi
2024-01-03 16:09:09 <@zodbot:fedora.im> No Fedora Accounts users have the @anitazha:matrix.org Matrix Account defined
2024-01-03 16:09:14 <@renegadext:matrix.org> !hi
2024-01-03 16:09:15 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Bill Schouten (ctlinux)
2024-01-03 16:09:42 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> I think a bunch of people need to add their MXIDs to FAS now :P
2024-01-03 16:10:08 <@davide:cavalca.name> https://accounts.fedoraproject.org/ to fix that y'all :p
2024-01-03 16:10:58 <@teknoraver:matrix.org> !hi
2024-01-03 16:11:04 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Matteo Croce (teknoraver)
2024-01-03 16:11:08 <@jonathanspw:fedora.im> !hi
2024-01-03 16:11:08 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Jonathan Wright (jonathanspw)
2024-01-03 16:11:21 <@jonathanspw:fedora.im> I feel dumb.  KDE taskbar froze on me and the clock was stuck at 8:39 am lol
2024-01-03 16:11:23 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> !hi
2024-01-03 16:11:25 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Neil Hanlon (neil) - he / him / his
2024-01-03 16:11:46 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> lol. been there
2024-01-03 16:12:06 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> Or forgot to change my time zone back after traveling
2024-01-03 16:12:09 <@renegadext:matrix.org> Is there a video meeting or something I need to join?
2024-01-03 16:12:21 <@davide:cavalca.name> this is text only
2024-01-03 16:12:27 <@davide:cavalca.name> we do have a monthly video meeting though
2024-01-03 16:12:50 <@davide:cavalca.name> this one: https://www.centos.org/community/calendar/#hyperscale-sig-monthly-hangout
2024-01-03 16:14:33 <@anitazha:matrix.org> !hi
2024-01-03 16:14:35 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Anita Zhang (anitazha) - she / her / hers
2024-01-03 16:15:53 <@jordanrome:matrix.org> !hi
2024-01-03 16:15:55 <@zodbot:fedora.im> No Fedora Accounts users have the @jordanrome:matrix.org Matrix Account defined
2024-01-03 16:16:31 <@teknoraver:matrix.org> !hi
2024-01-03 16:16:36 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Matteo Croce (teknoraver) - he / him / his
2024-01-03 16:16:43 <@teknoraver:matrix.org> perfect
2024-01-03 16:18:14 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> do you have a Fedora account with your matrix ID attached?
2024-01-03 16:18:27 <@jordanrome:matrix.org> Let's try one more time :)
2024-01-03 16:18:31 <@jordanrome:matrix.org> !hi
2024-01-03 16:18:33 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Jordan Rome (jordalgo) - he / him / his
2024-01-03 16:18:39 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> there ya go!
2024-01-03 16:19:09 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> okay, I think that's everyone, so...
2024-01-03 16:19:24 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> !topic Follow-ups
2024-01-03 16:19:34 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> Anyone have anything to follow-up from the previous meeting?
2024-01-03 16:19:56 <@michel:one.ems.host> sorry I'm late
2024-01-03 16:19:58 <@michel:one.ems.host> !hi
2024-01-03 16:19:59 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Michel Lind (salimma) - he / him / his
2024-01-03 16:21:32 <@michel:one.ems.host> I mentioned a `linux-firmware` update. It's still blocked on getting rdfind in EPEL
2024-01-03 16:21:58 <@michel:one.ems.host> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2255771
2024-01-03 16:22:23 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> !link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2255771
2024-01-03 16:23:10 <@michel:one.ems.host> given it's the holiday season I figured I'll extend the grace period before pinging / needinfo but I should do that later this week
2024-01-03 16:23:29 <@michel:one.ems.host> has anyone... gone through stalled EPEL request with this maintainer? Not sure how they would react
2024-01-03 16:23:49 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> uhhh
2024-01-03 16:24:01 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> Maybe Carl George?
2024-01-03 16:24:27 <@michel:one.ems.host> there's always "ask for rdfind in git.centos.org" as a nuclear option but that seems silly
2024-01-03 16:24:47 <@michel:one.ems.host> but yeah I don't want getting this into EPEL to jeopardize chances of getting linux-firmware PRs reviewed and merged
2024-01-03 16:25:33 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> i think a gentle nudge (i.e., no needinfo) would be fine, since as you said, it was during the holidays it was sent. could've been missed or accidentally forgotten about
2024-01-03 16:25:54 <@michel:one.ems.host> oh yeah. in general this would be fine
2024-01-03 16:27:04 <@michel:one.ems.host> needinfo is nicer because now bugzilla surfaces it in the dashboard though. but yeah I would wait until ... actually let's give it until next Monday so it's 2 weeks+1 instead of the required 1 week
2024-01-03 16:32:36 <@michel:one.ems.host> anyone else?
2024-01-03 16:33:15 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> my follow up is I didn't get a chance to work on anaconda over break.. but it's on my list for this week :) 
2024-01-03 16:34:37 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> my productivity is being hampered by Fedora 39 and bluetooth headphones not getting along :( 
2024-01-03 16:35:03 <@jonathanspw:fedora.im> haven't had any issues fwiw
2024-01-03 16:35:42 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> yeah it seems to be a.... me issue :) though - good point, let me see if these have some firmware update that is pending... thanks! lol
2024-01-03 16:35:46 <@michel:one.ems.host> yeah my bluetooth headphones work fine in Fedora 39
2024-01-03 16:35:53 <@michel:one.ems.host> (Bose)
2024-01-03 16:36:08 <@jonathanspw:fedora.im> i use a usb dongle (cheapo amazon one) and skullcandy crusher evo 2 or some crap
2024-01-03 16:36:32 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> my sony's give me a weird connect message basically saying the ad2p sink isn't available
2024-01-03 16:37:00 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> it's an intel bt chip, which appears to be the common thread in all the stuff I find online
2024-01-03 16:37:13 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> anyways, didn't mean to derail lol
2024-01-03 16:37:28 <@jonathanspw:fedora.im> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08M1VJHVD/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
2024-01-03 16:39:01 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> probably got one of them spy chips in it! /s 
2024-01-03 16:39:01 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> i don't have any direct experience with the stalled process and this maintainer.  i'd say just follow the process and not worry about it.  if anyone is still unhappy about that policy they can propose further adjustments to it.
2024-01-03 16:39:37 <@michel:one.ems.host> good thing we mainly do open source work :)
2024-01-03 16:39:50 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> tru tru
2024-01-03 16:39:52 <@michel:one.ems.host> though now we have to deal with LLM copyright violations :P
2024-01-03 16:40:07 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> and--apparently--LLM HackerOne reports
2024-01-03 16:40:14 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> (https://hackerone.com/reports/2298307)
2024-01-03 16:40:26 <@jonathanspw:fedora.im> Ok sorry to break order of things here but I'm about to have to run.  Guess it hasn't impacted anyone (or maybe it has) but I patched https://gitlab.com/libvirt/libvirt/-/issues/577 upstream earlier and will get it PRd to stream later today.
2024-01-03 16:40:38 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> thanks jonathanspw !
2024-01-03 16:40:57 <@jonathanspw:fedora.im> Can be kind of nasty depending on workflow and how you interface/build libvirt configs.  In my particular case it broke live migrations, new VM builds, and VM rebuilds :D
2024-01-03 16:41:18 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> ouch.
2024-01-03 16:41:41 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> ooof
2024-01-03 16:42:10 <@jonathanspw:fedora.im> Bug was introduced in libvirt <= 9.3 so it's an issue in cent stream for >6 months and in EL 9.3.
2024-01-03 16:42:17 <@jonathanspw:fedora.im> Bug was introduced in libvirt >= 9.3 so it's an issue in cent stream for >6 months and in EL 9.3.
2024-01-03 16:42:31 <@jonathanspw:fedora.im> as well as fedora (will also be PRing there)
2024-01-03 16:42:35 <@davide:cavalca.name> good catch, thank you
2024-01-03 16:42:44 <@davide:cavalca.name> I'll bubble this up to our virt folks internally
2024-01-03 16:42:49 <@jonathanspw:fedora.im> ok y'all, gotta run.  Hope everyone had a good holiday!
2024-01-03 16:42:52 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> thanks for this!
2024-01-03 16:43:46 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> so anything from anyone else?
2024-01-03 16:44:55 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> guess not, so let's move on to...
2024-01-03 16:45:07 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> !topic Announcements
2024-01-03 16:45:15 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> anyone got anything to announce?
2024-01-03 16:46:19 <@davide:cavalca.name> I forgot if I mentioned it the last time, but we (Meta) are working on getting the sched_ext userspace packaged in Fedora in preparation for the kernel side getting (hopefully) merged upstream
2024-01-03 16:46:51 <@davide:cavalca.name> once that's sorted out we'll get it branched in EPEL, and likely integrate the kernel bits in the Hyperscale kernel so folks can actually use it
2024-01-03 16:47:19 <@michel:one.ems.host> if it's not usable with the stock CentOS kernel, can we have that in EPEL?
2024-01-03 16:47:29 <@davide:cavalca.name> if you have no idea what this is: https://github.com/sched-ext/scx/blob/main/OVERVIEW.md
2024-01-03 16:47:44 <@michel:one.ems.host> (we can always get it in HS first, just wondering)
2024-01-03 16:48:06 <@davide:cavalca.name> we have various userspace for hardware stuff that's not in the stock centos kernel branched in EPEL, so I think it's fine?
2024-01-03 16:48:37 <@davide:cavalca.name> I would say as long as it doesn't have any negative consequences on the system, I don't see a reason not to branch it
2024-01-03 16:49:59 <@michel:one.ems.host> yeah, fair. as long as some of the tools does /something/ I think it should be fine anyway
2024-01-03 16:51:13 <@jordanrome:matrix.org> There are some good blog posts and tutorials on writing your own schedulers in the main readme.
2024-01-03 16:52:20 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> if the tools gracefully fail and there's a reasonable path to it being available in RHEL, I don't see a reason why it shouldn't be in EPEL
2024-01-03 16:55:54 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> anyway, is there anything else?
2024-01-03 16:56:10 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> if not, we can move onto...
2024-01-03 16:56:18 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> !Tickets
2024-01-03 16:56:24 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> blech
2024-01-03 16:56:28 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> !topic Tickets
2024-01-03 16:56:54 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> Nothing changed ticket-wise since the last meeting, so let's just move onto...
2024-01-03 16:56:58 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> !topic Membership
2024-01-03 16:57:41 <@davide:cavalca.name> we still have https://pagure.io/centos-sig-hyperscale/sig/issue/158 for Matteo Croce who is actually here today :)
2024-01-03 16:58:13 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> Yup!
2024-01-03 16:58:18 <@michel:one.ems.host> intro time :)
2024-01-03 16:59:18 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> 🥳
2024-01-03 16:59:21 <@teknoraver:matrix.org> hi there!
2024-01-03 16:59:33 <@teknoraver:matrix.org> I'm Matteo Croce, working for Meta from Italy
2024-01-03 17:00:14 <@teknoraver:matrix.org> I use Fedora (and RHEL/CentOS) since something like 5 years
2024-01-03 17:00:51 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> jeez
2024-01-03 17:04:11 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> Matteo Croce: what are you interested in for Hyperscale?
2024-01-03 17:05:24 <@teknoraver:matrix.org> I'm not very expert in large scale systems, I'm still learning
2024-01-03 17:05:44 <@teknoraver:matrix.org> I was working on the Linux kernel before, mostly networking, wifi and ebpf
2024-01-03 17:06:32 <@davide:cavalca.name> Matteo will likely end up taking over RPM CoW, and hopefully getting it past the finish line
2024-01-03 17:07:16 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> That would be fantastic!
2024-01-03 17:07:55 <@teknoraver:matrix.org> yeah, I'm trying to get familiar with the codebase, with simpler tasks like this one:
2024-01-03 17:07:56 <@teknoraver:matrix.org> https://github.com/rpm-software-management/rpm/issues/2664
2024-01-03 17:08:58 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> Well, I'm happy to see new contributors in the rpm stack, and especially a familiar face like yours :)
2024-01-03 17:09:09 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> Anyone object to Matteo Croce joining the SIG?
2024-01-03 17:09:48 <@michel:one.ems.host> no objection here
2024-01-03 17:09:52 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> no objection
2024-01-03 17:09:56 <@rcolebaugh:matrix.org> No objections on my end :)
2024-01-03 17:11:35 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> then let's do this!
2024-01-03 17:12:22 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> !agreed Matteo Croce is accepted as a member of the CentOS Hyperscale SIG. Davide Cavalca will do the process to add him to the SIG.
2024-01-03 17:12:49 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> And with that, we're done with this, so onto...
2024-01-03 17:12:57 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> !topic Miscellaneous
2024-01-03 17:13:06 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> Is there anything else anyone wants to bring up?
2024-01-03 17:13:51 <@renegadext:matrix.org> Not from me, but this was insightful
2024-01-03 17:14:14 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> Cool!
2024-01-03 17:14:20 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> the inner workings of madness!
2024-01-03 17:14:37 <@michel:one.ems.host> madness... or genius?
2024-01-03 17:14:43 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> I do have one thing for Davide Cavalca though... you still need to get that backlog of meeting minutes+logs on the site :)
2024-01-03 17:14:54 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> half of one, six dozen of the other
2024-01-03 17:14:55 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> and sort to reverse chronological order
2024-01-03 17:15:01 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> or.. something ;)
2024-01-03 17:15:12 <@davide:cavalca.name> I know, will try to get it done either this week or the next
2024-01-03 17:15:22 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> sounds great
2024-01-03 17:15:31 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> and with that... I think it's time to END IT ALL
2024-01-03 17:15:38 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> 💣️
2024-01-03 17:15:42 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> !endmeeting