2024-02-14 16:04:23 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> !startmeeting CentOS Hyperscale SIG
2024-02-14 16:04:25 <@meetbot:fedora.im> Meeting started at 2024-02-14 16:04:23 UTC
2024-02-14 16:04:25 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting name is 'CentOS Hyperscale SIG'
2024-02-14 16:04:43 <@anitazha:matrix.org> Hello HS~
2024-02-14 16:04:45 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> !topic Roll call
2024-02-14 16:04:48 <@salimma:fedora.im> !hi
2024-02-14 16:04:49 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Michel Lind (salimma) - he / him / his
2024-02-14 16:04:51 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> !hi
2024-02-14 16:04:52 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Neil Hanlon (neil) - he / him / his
2024-02-14 16:04:53 <@jordanrome:matrix.org> !hi
2024-02-14 16:04:55 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Jordan Rome (jordalgo) - he / him / his
2024-02-14 16:04:57 <@daandemeyer/:matrix.org> !hi
2024-02-14 16:04:57 <@anitazha:matrix.org> !hi
2024-02-14 16:04:58 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Daan De Meyer (daandemeyer)
2024-02-14 16:04:59 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Anita Zhang (anitazha) - she / her / hers
2024-02-14 16:05:00 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> !hi
2024-02-14 16:05:02 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Neal Gompa (ngompa) - he / him / his
2024-02-14 16:05:07 <@rcolebaugh:matrix.org> !hi
2024-02-14 16:05:09 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Raymond Colebaugh (rcolebaugh) - he / him / his
2024-02-14 16:05:27 <@davide:cavalca.name> !hi
2024-02-14 16:05:28 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Davide Cavalca (dcavalca) - he / him / his
2024-02-14 16:07:26 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> wow, I think this is the most we've had in a while
2024-02-14 16:08:06 <@salimma:fedora.im> Davide Cavalca: you're on vacation! shhh
2024-02-14 16:08:12 <@jonathanspw:fedora.im> !hi
2024-02-14 16:08:12 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Jonathan Wright (jonathanspw)
2024-02-14 16:08:13 <@anitazha:matrix.org> Many familiar faces
2024-02-14 16:08:29 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> don't shush Davide!
2024-02-14 16:08:37 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> he can be here if he wants :P
2024-02-14 16:08:44 <@davide:cavalca.name> I'm taking a half day back to take care of a few things this afternoon :)
2024-02-14 16:09:06 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> proposed action: make Davide learn how to vacation better 
2024-02-14 16:09:23 <@daandemeyer/:matrix.org> +1
2024-02-14 16:09:49 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> !topic Followups
2024-02-14 16:10:01 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> Davide is better at vacations than I am
2024-02-14 16:10:14 <@daandemeyer/:matrix.org> proposed action: make Neal learn how to vacation better

2024-02-14 16:10:21 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> +2
2024-02-14 16:10:27 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> we all need to learn that i think heh
2024-02-14 16:11:43 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> anyone got some stuff to followup from the last meeting?
2024-02-14 16:11:56 <@salimma:fedora.im> can't think of any, I have a new item later for open floor
2024-02-14 16:12:09 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> I know we had CentOS Connect a couple weeks ago and had a F2F which was pretty great :)
2024-02-14 16:12:44 <@daandemeyer/:matrix.org> I suppose a followup is that the RHEL folks are going to figure out the SELinux situation
2024-02-14 16:13:14 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> Right. And that actually turned into a Jira ticket update.
2024-02-14 16:13:26 <@salimma:fedora.im> nice. maybe share the link here for posterity?
2024-02-14 16:14:00 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> !link https://issues.redhat.com/browse/RHEL-22960
2024-02-14 16:14:36 <@salimma:fedora.im> 9.5 not 9.4, but I guess that's ... as good as it gets
2024-02-14 16:15:01 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> I suspect it was too down to the wire for 9.4
2024-02-14 16:15:03 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> that's excellent news for sure. thanks for making that request Neal
2024-02-14 16:15:20 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> from our perspective it doesn't matter
2024-02-14 16:15:27 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> CentOS Stream 9 is already on 9.5 anyway
2024-02-14 16:15:34 <@zodbot:fedora.im> neil has already given cookies to ngompa during the F39 timeframe
2024-02-14 16:15:35 <@salimma:fedora.im> true
2024-02-14 16:15:47 <@salimma:fedora.im> also I guess selinux is one of those that RH has a vested interest to promote
2024-02-14 16:16:05 <@salimma:fedora.im> so they /should/ be helpful or it's... embarrassing if CentOS SIGs gave up on it
2024-02-14 16:16:21 <@salimma:fedora.im> Hyperscale AppArmor edition ;)
2024-02-14 16:16:43 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> tangentially (and off topic), does anyone know if RDO supports selinux? In the OSA project we have to disable SELinux on EL-likes, but i'd love to.. not do that at some point
2024-02-14 16:16:55 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> It does.
2024-02-14 16:17:12 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> You will want to talk to spotz about it in #centos-cloud:fedora.im 
2024-02-14 16:17:14 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> cool, there's probably some rules I can re-use then
2024-02-14 16:17:33 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> yep yep, spotz is in OSA too, will ask them :) thanks
2024-02-14 16:18:07 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> when even SUSE is moving from AppArmor to SELinux...? 🤔
2024-02-14 16:18:13 <@salimma:fedora.im> Open Security Architecture?
2024-02-14 16:18:18 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> openstack-ansible
2024-02-14 16:18:30 <@salimma:fedora.im> DDG's top result for OSA is a Soviet missile boat, Osa-class :P
2024-02-14 16:18:34 <@bookwar:fedora.im> There is no intent in hiding the selinux development, it is just that opening up things which were hosted on the internal infra in "before Stream" times is hard and takes much longer for certain corner cases.
2024-02-14 16:19:00 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> yeah, it's all a big ball of mess to untangle
2024-02-14 16:19:02 <@salimma:fedora.im> yup, understandable
2024-02-14 16:19:13 <@davide:cavalca.name> "how to contribute to the selinux policies" would be a cool blog post if someone on the team at RH were interested in writing it
2024-02-14 16:19:27 <@davide:cavalca.name> (with both the fedora and the centos angles)
2024-02-14 16:19:27 <@salimma:fedora.im> speaking of private infra trackers, Conan Kudo should we ask the Anaconda team to open up their issue tracker? :)
2024-02-14 16:19:42 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> we probably should
2024-02-14 16:19:42 <@salimma:fedora.im> SELinux Coloring Book needs a sequel for older kids :)
2024-02-14 16:19:56 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> >The Anarchists Guide to SELinux
2024-02-14 16:20:09 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> it's going to be annoying if we wind up maintaining hyperscale anaconda if we can't really track what's going on or collaborate with them
2024-02-14 16:20:33 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> I shouldn't say "if", since we _are_ already maintaining a hyperscale anaconda
2024-02-14 16:20:40 <@davide:cavalca.name> there's already a coloring book, so that would be a fun segue
2024-02-14 16:21:21 <@davide:cavalca.name> (in case you don't know what I'm talking about: https://github.com/mairin/selinux-coloring-book)
2024-02-14 16:22:12 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> Máirín Duffy does great work, indeed.
2024-02-14 16:23:24 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> Anyway, I do have a small followup... I've submitted a ticket to RHEL to get Xwayland-devel shipped in RHEL 9/10, because... well, apparently you can't build Wayland compositors with Xwayland support properly anymore without it.
2024-02-14 16:23:29 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> !link https://issues.redhat.com/browse/RHEL-25083
2024-02-14 16:23:59 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> This will be required for Michel Lind🎩 and shaunm's work on Hyperscale GNOME.
2024-02-14 16:24:18 <@salimma:fedora.im> do we though, for Hyperscale? because we have access to the internal repos right
2024-02-14 16:24:38 <@salimma:fedora.im> I agree that it should be shipped nonetheless -- also, can we also do a PR to add it to the ELN workload
2024-02-14 16:24:43 <@salimma:fedora.im> make sure it stays enabled
2024-02-14 16:25:35 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> it depends on whether stuff goes into EPEL or Hyperscale or COPR
2024-02-14 16:25:56 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> because the full GNOME is a big stack and as RHEL cuts down what's available out of the box, a lot of it can shift elsewhere
2024-02-14 16:26:10 <@salimma:fedora.im> oh true
2024-02-14 16:26:28 <@salimma:fedora.im> at some point it could be that we *could* and should move things to EPEL but can't because EPEL can't see some packages
2024-02-14 16:26:50 <@salimma:fedora.im> ideally HS Gnome stays as small as possible, though at the beginning it's probably easiest to have everything in HS
2024-02-14 16:26:56 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> yes
2024-02-14 16:27:24 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> and packages like mutter can be built in a non-conflicting way from the base package (we do this already for mutter compat packages in Fedora)
2024-02-14 16:28:12 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> I'm not saying we should do that, but I want to keep our options open here.
2024-02-14 16:28:19 <@salimma:fedora.im> nods
2024-02-14 16:29:04 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> the original reason I submitted the issue was actually because I realized KWin didn't build anymore
2024-02-14 16:29:19 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> and that's because we were missing that package in EPEL because it is unshipped
2024-02-14 16:29:46 <@salimma:fedora.im> right. probably worth discussing it in the EPEL meeting later today as well then
2024-02-14 16:29:50 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> yes
2024-02-14 16:30:02 <@salimma:fedora.im> and loop in Troy on the issue to get the package shipped
2024-02-14 16:30:14 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> he should be already added as a watcher
2024-02-14 16:30:22 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> but Jira doesn't tell you when stuff like that happens normally :(
2024-02-14 16:32:14 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> anyway, that's all I have for followups, I haven't managed to do much else since getting back from fosdem...
2024-02-14 16:32:18 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> anyone else have anything?
2024-02-14 16:32:53 <@salimma:fedora.im> you don't get emailed? wild
2024-02-14 16:33:11 <@salimma:fedora.im> we can move on I think, we're half an hour in
2024-02-14 16:33:17 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> okay then
2024-02-14 16:33:26 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> !topic Announcements
2024-02-14 16:33:33 <@salimma:fedora.im> I need a few mins to discuss something on Open Floor, it will probably get filed as an issue later after this meeting
2024-02-14 16:33:44 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> Anyone have anything to announce?
2024-02-14 16:34:48 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> I guess not, so...
2024-02-14 16:34:54 <@daandemeyer/:matrix.org> I've started on the next systemd release: https://git.centos.org/rpms/systemd/pull-request/15
2024-02-14 16:34:58 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> oh nice
2024-02-14 16:35:41 <@daandemeyer/:matrix.org> And we now have a dracut backport from Fedora to accompany the next systemd release as dracut and systemd are tightly intertwined
2024-02-14 16:36:13 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> that's a good thing anyway
2024-02-14 16:36:19 <@salimma:fedora.im> plot twist: soon dracut will be systemd-dracut ;)
2024-02-14 16:36:22 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> for fixing livecd bugs, we need updated dracut
2024-02-14 16:36:43 <@daandemeyer/:matrix.org> No need to worry about that, we'd rather replace it entirely
2024-02-14 16:36:52 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> :/
2024-02-14 16:36:57 <@salimma:fedora.im> systemd-mkinitramfs
2024-02-14 16:37:06 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> as part of alt-images work, I'll endeavor to backport things to rhel9 dracut but hopefully we don't have too many of those cases
2024-02-14 16:38:36 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> seems like the new systemd rebase also is a big spec cleanup
2024-02-14 16:38:42 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> presumably because no more el8?
2024-02-14 16:38:56 <@daandemeyer/:matrix.org> Indeed, and because %autochangelog can now be used
2024-02-14 16:39:08 <@daandemeyer/:matrix.org> So we don't need to copy the entire changelog back into the spec anymore
2024-02-14 16:39:38 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> it's nice to simplify at least
2024-02-14 16:39:38 <@daandemeyer/:matrix.org> Any complaints about %autochangelog can be raised with zbyszek ;)
2024-02-14 16:40:16 <@salimma:fedora.im> rpmautospec makes sense if we're just rebuilding the Fedora package as is, I guess
2024-02-14 16:40:33 <@salimma:fedora.im> or if we don't mind that the release number goes out of sync
2024-02-14 16:41:21 <@salimma:fedora.im> I wish it has support for, say, anything from Fedora's X.Y.Z-N being numbered X.Y.Z-N.M and just increasing the M
2024-02-14 16:42:05 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> sshhhh, then we'll have %rpmautodist
2024-02-14 16:42:10 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> hacking in subrelease support into `%autorelease` is probably possible
2024-02-14 16:42:38 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> if I had my way, the DistTag wouldn't even be something you worried about the in the spec file
2024-02-14 16:43:40 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> anyway, do we have anything else?
2024-02-14 16:43:50 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> if not, we can move on to...
2024-02-14 16:43:58 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> !topic Tickets
2024-02-14 16:44:28 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> We have no new tickets to process, so we can move on to...
2024-02-14 16:44:38 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> !topic Membership
2024-02-14 16:45:29 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> !info We have no new members to welcome, but I am going to take the opportunity to remind people that Davide Cavalca and I will be evaluating the membership rolls and figuring out a process to prune inactive members on a regular basis.
2024-02-14 16:46:02 <@davide:cavalca.name> let's plan on drafting a policy for that and putting it up for a vote in one of the next meetings
2024-02-14 16:46:03 <@daandemeyer/:matrix.org> So much for being the SIG with the most members
2024-02-14 16:46:16 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> Yeah, I like it too, but it looks very weird.
2024-02-14 16:46:19 <@davide:cavalca.name> I suspect that will still hold even after the prune :)
2024-02-14 16:46:27 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> ballet box stuffing, smdh
2024-02-14 16:46:31 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> We have literally 4x the members of the next largest SIG
2024-02-14 16:46:36 <@anitazha:matrix.org> I like smaller numbers 
2024-02-14 16:46:37 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> even if we cut half of it, we will be the biggest
2024-02-14 16:47:33 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> some of it is also members that were previously contributing or intended to contribute but don't now
2024-02-14 16:47:52 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> we've also incubated efforts that spun out into their own things
2024-02-14 16:47:56 <@salimma:fedora.im> Fedora's policy for pruning provenpackagers seem sane
2024-02-14 16:48:19 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> spitballing: even at that size it might make sense to organize a bit w.r.t. "working groups" or similar, which could also help encouraging others to join to have a more focused direction to the work
2024-02-14 16:48:36 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> there's a few large things that the SIG works on, ya know
2024-02-14 16:48:57 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> I'm not sure what we'd do with that? at that point we'd wind up splitting them out into their own SIGs
2024-02-14 16:49:13 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> yeah now that I say it out loud, basically that was what happened with ISA sig
2024-02-14 16:49:16 <@salimma:fedora.im> we do kind of have unofficial working groups - or people self-organizing into different work anyway
2024-02-14 16:49:17 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> that's pretty much what happened to our "optimized intel" stuff and "image creation" stuff
2024-02-14 16:49:18 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> so, moot point i suppose
2024-02-14 16:49:25 <@salimma:fedora.im> e.g. Daan and Anita doing systemd, me and Shaun doing GNOME eventually
2024-02-14 16:49:39 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> i provide comedic (?) relief... 
2024-02-14 16:49:40 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> that's not quite the same thing though
2024-02-14 16:49:45 <@salimma:fedora.im> also in Fedora terminology WG is above SIG, not a subset, right? :)
2024-02-14 16:49:56 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> yes
2024-02-14 16:49:57 <@salimma:fedora.im> yeah, I think more bureaucracy is not needed here. Agreed with Neal
2024-02-14 16:49:59 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> good point
2024-02-14 16:50:06 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> there's other complications but more or less
2024-02-14 16:50:38 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> if we got to the point that we needed that, I think Davide and I would just start forking them out into their own SIGs
2024-02-14 16:50:55 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> it helps that Davide is a board member so we can short-circuit that process because of that
2024-02-14 16:51:34 <@salimma:fedora.im> speaking of board governance, one question
2024-02-14 16:51:36 <@davide:cavalca.name> as I said before in talks I'm happy for folks to use Hyperscale as an incubator and eventually spin off into their own SIG
2024-02-14 16:51:45 <@salimma:fedora.im> if a SIG's board sponsor steps down, what happens?
2024-02-14 16:51:54 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> the SIG shuts down without a new board sponsor
2024-02-14 16:52:01 <@salimma:fedora.im> or once a SIG is in, can the SIG's board rep be its own sponsor?
2024-02-14 16:52:15 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> we are required to have a board sponsor to maintain operations, they exist as oversight
2024-02-14 16:52:34 <@salimma:fedora.im> do we have a backup then?
2024-02-14 16:52:38 <@davide:cavalca.name> that's technically correct, but in practice we'd just find another sponsor; the role has never been formalized, that's one of those things we could use some help getting better governance written around actually
2024-02-14 16:52:56 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> yeah
2024-02-14 16:53:00 <@davide:cavalca.name> ("we" as the board in case that wasn't clear)
2024-02-14 16:55:31 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> anyway... not a problem right now
2024-02-14 16:55:53 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> and when that bridge comes, we'll figure it out
2024-02-14 16:56:06 <@salimma:fedora.im> right
2024-02-14 16:56:40 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> anyway, onto...
2024-02-14 16:56:47 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> !topic Miscellaneous
2024-02-14 16:56:54 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> The floor is open Michel Lind🎩 
2024-02-14 16:57:02 <@salimma:fedora.im> hello!
2024-02-14 16:57:26 <@salimma:fedora.im> so... this use case came up at work that requires, in some cases, an automated pipeline to bump and rebuild packages
2024-02-14 16:57:42 <@salimma:fedora.im> whereas our current pipeline basically only flag whenever we fall behind c9s, IIRC
2024-02-14 16:58:13 <@salimma:fedora.im> so I wonder if there's an interest in working on a more general framework. maybe involving PackIt since they're doing similar work?
2024-02-14 16:58:51 <@salimma:fedora.im> I can imagine two avenues
- packit style, with automatic MR when upstream cuts a new release
- expanding our current work so some packages can track Fedora instead of tracking c9s
2024-02-14 16:58:52 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> we're going to need some more general framework for this as we stop tracking RHEL packages in more cases
2024-02-14 16:59:04 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> we stopped tracking RHEL for the kernel, as an example
2024-02-14 16:59:29 <@salimma:fedora.im> yeah. so our kernel can be another usecase for this
2024-02-14 16:59:47 <@salimma:fedora.im> I think I can disclose that the other package we need a solution for is tzdata :)
2024-02-14 17:00:08 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> lol
2024-02-14 17:00:11 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> that makes sense
2024-02-14 17:00:12 <@davide:cavalca.name> ooh I like the idea of using packit for this
2024-02-14 17:00:15 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> time sux
2024-02-14 17:00:21 <@salimma:fedora.im> right
2024-02-14 17:00:27 <@daandemeyer/:matrix.org> The systemd-cd cron job on gitlab works amazingly well just saying. I checked out packit just didn't have the necessary features
2024-02-14 17:00:46 <@daandemeyer/:matrix.org> The systemd-cd cron job on gitlab works amazingly well just saying. I checked out packit last time and it just didn't have the necessary features
2024-02-14 17:00:47 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> most packages aren't weirdly churny like systemd
2024-02-14 17:00:53 <@salimma:fedora.im> yeah, I think we need to seriously look at both systemd-cd and packit as potential solutions
2024-02-14 17:01:21 <@salimma:fedora.im> when did you look at packit Daan? not sure if they do CBS now, but I've trialled it on one of my churny package in Fedora (damo) and it's doing fine
2024-02-14 17:01:35 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> custom automation for the kernel package is in my future plans
2024-02-14 17:01:46 <@daandemeyer/:matrix.org> The CBS support is in alpha/beta now I think?
2024-02-14 17:01:54 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> but getting things right for that is hard because it's a source-git repo 😩
2024-02-14 17:01:57 <@salimma:fedora.im> we can try it for a less important package first
2024-02-14 17:02:06 <@salimma:fedora.im> yeah, the kernel will be the trickiest I guess
2024-02-14 17:02:26 <@salimma:fedora.im> I remember being curious about source-git but not touching it until I try doing stuff in Debian where everything is source git
2024-02-14 17:02:28 <@salimma:fedora.im> now I hate it :)
2024-02-14 17:02:57 <@salimma:fedora.im> anyway - so I'll file an issue to summarize this and we can discuss it there and follow up on it next time
2024-02-14 17:03:10 <@salimma:fedora.im> !action Michel to file issue exploring general package CI/CD
2024-02-14 17:03:31 <@salimma:fedora.im> one other quick thing, I just got an email today from devconf.cz, they have a CfP office hour on Feb 16
2024-02-14 17:03:32 <@rcolebaugh:matrix.org> I think this would be pretty interesting for automating openssh version bumps too. we do have the patches for it though, so could hit merge conflicts from time to time and require manual merge. But it would be nice to automate other package upgrades
2024-02-14 17:03:52 <@salimma:fedora.im> https://docs.google.com/document/d/17XqUJv94tond3_sTzMZ3gRHnQxwG-IFDaNzTZo6M6JE/edit#heading=h.iqafe5ypvr7b
2024-02-14 17:03:56 <@salimma:fedora.im> !link https://docs.google.com/document/d/17XqUJv94tond3_sTzMZ3gRHnQxwG-IFDaNzTZo6M6JE/edit#heading=h.iqafe5ypvr7b
2024-02-14 17:04:14 <@daandemeyer/:matrix.org> Ah shit I need to submit something
2024-02-14 17:04:38 <@salimma:fedora.im> yeah, the nice thing about packit's way at least with Fedora packages is, it submits an PR, if it fails you can clone that repo, fix it and push back
2024-02-14 17:04:55 <@salimma:fedora.im> the office hour is at 2 pm CET so a bit early here in the US but doable
2024-02-14 17:05:22 <@salimma:fedora.im> oh and they're also on linkedin. fun. and Mastodon! huh
2024-02-14 17:05:24 <@rcolebaugh:matrix.org> ooo nice, yeah that sounds convenient!
2024-02-14 17:05:53 <@salimma:fedora.im> they're quite responsive on matrix too so once I file the issue I'll sound them out
2024-02-14 17:06:28 <@salimma:fedora.im> rcolebaugh: this is an example with me fixing the PR because some tests fail https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/python-damo/pull-request/11
2024-02-14 17:07:00 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> right, they're in #packit:fedora.im 
2024-02-14 17:07:38 <@salimma:fedora.im> which apparently I got kicked out for being idle so I just rejoined :P
2024-02-14 17:08:07 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> anyway, we're running over and Stream Office hours are right now
2024-02-14 17:08:17 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> so if there's nothing else...?
2024-02-14 17:09:36 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> 3...
2024-02-14 17:09:37 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> 2...
2024-02-14 17:09:39 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> 1...
2024-02-14 17:09:42 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> !endmeeting