#meeting:fedoraproject.org log

<@davide:cavalca.name>

16:00:57

!startmeeting CentOS Hyperscale SIG

<@meetbot:fedora.im>

16:00:59

Meeting started at 2024-08-28 16:00:57 UTC

<@meetbot:fedora.im>

16:00:59

The Meeting name is 'CentOS Hyperscale SIG'

<@davide:cavalca.name>

16:01:05

morning everyone

<@davide:cavalca.name>

16:01:07

!topic Roll call

<@rcolebaugh:matrix.org>

16:01:32

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

16:01:34

Raymond Colebaugh (rcolebaugh) - he / him / his

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

16:02:24

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

16:02:27

Neal Gompa (ngompa) - he / him / his

<@jonathanspw:fedora.im>

16:03:13

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

16:03:14

Jonathan Wright (jonathanspw)

<@salimma:fedora.im>

16:03:21

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

16:03:22

Michel Lind (salimma) - he / him / his

<@davide:cavalca.name>

16:04:22

let's get started

<@davide:cavalca.name>

16:04:23

!topic Followups

<@daandemeyer/:matrix.org>

16:04:30

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

16:04:32

Daan De Meyer (daandemeyer)

<@davide:cavalca.name>

16:04:45

let's see... we survived both flock and devconfus

<@davide:cavalca.name>

16:04:51

and the devconfus talks are up already

<@salimma:fedora.im>

16:04:54

somehow. yay

<@davide:cavalca.name>

16:04:57

still need to update our tracker page

<@davide:cavalca.name>

16:05:54

anybody else has followups?

<@davide:cavalca.name>

16:08:16

alright, let's move to

<@davide:cavalca.name>

16:08:21

!topic Announcements

<@davide:cavalca.name>

16:08:46

Matteo Croce: pushed an updated version of the rpm stack with CoW for c9s

<@davide:cavalca.name>

16:08:57

we're currently testing that internally at Meta

<@davide:cavalca.name>

16:09:16

as discussed at fosdem, the c10s one is waiting to see whether upstream ends up rebasing rpm or not

<@davide:cavalca.name>

16:09:50

also, while updating some home systems I realized our latest systemd release is not installable due to a conflict with grubby

<@davide:cavalca.name>

16:10:13

https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/systemd/c/a9807c4486037e2a47bae8ae7fcf3fa265ebdaab?branch=rawhide should fix that, this still needs to get pulled into Hyperscale (and then we need to make a release)

<@daandemeyer/:matrix.org>

16:10:22

I'll add grubby to the systemd-releng mkosi config packages

<@daandemeyer/:matrix.org>

16:10:29

That should add coverage for that

<@davide:cavalca.name>

16:10:35

awesome, thanks

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

16:11:10

the flock talks are up too

<@davide:cavalca.name>

16:11:17

oh nice

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

16:11:32

they just went up

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

16:14:16

!link https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0x39xti0_6757itYwFBHqaZRdIiF43jO

<@davide:cavalca.name>

16:14:22

the other thing I wanted to mention is that at flock we've started experimenting with a unified docs site for CentOS, and I did some cleanup of the Hyperscale docs to fix absolute links so they'd work fine as part of that

<@davide:cavalca.name>

16:14:35

https://docs-centos-org-centos-docs-5f8c3c51aa463473c5b967945c3cf462908.gitlab.io/centos-hyperscale-sig/ is what it looks like in there (temporary URL obviously)

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

16:14:37

!info Flock talks are up

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

16:16:12

is the idea that there's be a single index that people can look from?

<@davide:cavalca.name>

16:16:26

yes, and a global search

<@salimma:fedora.im>

16:16:38

nice

<@davide:cavalca.name>

16:16:47

join #centos-docs:fedora.im if you're interested in helping out with this

<@davide:cavalca.name>

16:17:12

the idea is that once the contributor guide is moved over this could replace docs.centos.org

<@davide:cavalca.name>

16:21:34

anything else for announcements?

<@salimma:fedora.im>

16:23:27

we're getting ethtool 6.10 in Hyperscale

<@salimma:fedora.im>

16:23:48

definitely for hs.el9, maybe for hs.el10 too if RHEL maintainer won't upgrade from 6.7

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

16:26:00

still troubleshooting the issues with kernel builds for c10s

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

16:29:29

pretty sure the problem has something to do with builders on rhel8 and libkcapi

<@salimma:fedora.im>

16:30:18

ouch - the builders are still on RHEL 8 :O

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

16:31:03

yeah, I'm not sure why the builders aren't upgraded to the latest rhel at least, if not latest centos stream

<@davide:cavalca.name>

16:36:17

next up

<@davide:cavalca.name>

16:36:18

!topic Tickets

<@davide:cavalca.name>

16:36:40

we should probably go over these and clean things up a bit when we have a moment

<@davide:cavalca.name>

16:37:04

but right now I don't think there's anything immediately actionable

<@davide:cavalca.name>

16:37:46

!topic Membership

<@davide:cavalca.name>

16:38:19

so https://pagure.io/centos-sig-hyperscale/sig/issue/163 has been open for 5 months now, and afaict the person mentioned there never actually joined any of the channels or introduced themselves

<@davide:cavalca.name>

16:39:02

I'd suggest closing this with a comment, as it seems a bit silly to bring it up every time (and they're obviously welcome to reopen it)

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

16:39:23

we should just close it

<@davide:cavalca.name>

16:40:02

any objections?

<@salimma:fedora.im>

16:41:41

no, this is getting ridiculous

<@salimma:fedora.im>

16:42:10

but that remidns me, the follow up is to also poll inactive people regularly and make sure people listed as members are still active, right?

<@davide:cavalca.name>

16:42:20

yes, we also need to do that

<@davide:cavalca.name>

16:42:33

well, come up with a process to do that first, announce it, and then do it

<@davide:cavalca.name>

16:42:57

I've just closed that ticket in the meantime

<@salimma:fedora.im>

16:43:03

I guess we should discuss that either now or at the next meeting

<@davide:cavalca.name>

16:43:37

https://sigs.centos.org/hyperscale/policies/governance/ says

<@davide:cavalca.name>

16:43:44

> We do expect SIG members to actively contribute or otherwise remain engaged with the project, and will initiate removal of stale members after six months of inactivity.

<@davide:cavalca.name>

16:44:07

so that's a start

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

16:44:58

we can probably just start doing it then

<@davide:cavalca.name>

16:45:15

we can, but I'd rather be nice about it

<@davide:cavalca.name>

16:45:28

easiest is probably to just email everyone and ask if they're still interested in being in the SIG

<@davide:cavalca.name>

16:45:49

I'd rather not be in the business of measuring whether what someone is doing counts as "engagement"

<@davide:cavalca.name>

16:46:51

also this page needs an update, it still references IRC and the wiki

<@salimma:fedora.im>

16:48:08

yeah, I think emailing every six months, then doing a reminder, before then purging should be fine

<@salimma:fedora.im>

16:48:42

so we probably should wordsmith it. basing it on the non-responsive maintainer policy or EPEL stalled request in Fedora might be reasonable?

<@davide:cavalca.name>

16:49:06

yeah, sounds good to me

<@davide:cavalca.name>

16:49:14

we can work on this async in the next couple of weeks

<@salimma:fedora.im>

16:49:43

yeah. I'll be away for the next meeting, but I can try putting up a PR before I leave next week

<@davide:cavalca.name>

16:50:06

oh right, I'll also be away for Plumbers

<@salimma:fedora.im>

16:50:10

!action Michel to draft the procedure for checking in with inactive members

<@salimma:fedora.im>

16:50:19

plumbers is after our next meeting right?

<@davide:cavalca.name>

16:50:39

oh you're right, I head out on the 13th

<@davide:cavalca.name>

16:50:45

so the next one is fine

<@salimma:fedora.im>

16:50:54

I'll be on PTO from next Thursday until the following Thursday

<@salimma:fedora.im>

16:51:28

and then fly out for Plumbers on 15th

<@davide:cavalca.name>

16:51:31

we only have a few minutes left, so let's move to

<@davide:cavalca.name>

16:51:32

!topic Miscellaneous

<@davide:cavalca.name>

16:52:11

anything else folks want to discuss?

<@salimma:fedora.im>

16:54:27

none from me

<@davide:cavalca.name>

16:54:46

I think we can end early then

<@davide:cavalca.name>

16:54:51

thanks everyone, and see you soon

<@davide:cavalca.name>

16:54:53

!endmeeting