2024-08-28 16:00:57 <@davide:cavalca.name> !startmeeting CentOS Hyperscale SIG
2024-08-28 16:00:59 <@meetbot:fedora.im> Meeting started at 2024-08-28 16:00:57 UTC
2024-08-28 16:00:59 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting name is 'CentOS Hyperscale SIG'
2024-08-28 16:01:05 <@davide:cavalca.name> morning everyone
2024-08-28 16:01:07 <@davide:cavalca.name> !topic Roll call
2024-08-28 16:01:32 <@rcolebaugh:matrix.org> !hi
2024-08-28 16:01:34 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Raymond Colebaugh (rcolebaugh) - he / him / his
2024-08-28 16:02:24 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> !hi
2024-08-28 16:02:27 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Neal Gompa (ngompa) - he / him / his
2024-08-28 16:03:13 <@jonathanspw:fedora.im> !hi
2024-08-28 16:03:14 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Jonathan Wright (jonathanspw)
2024-08-28 16:03:21 <@salimma:fedora.im> !hi
2024-08-28 16:03:22 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Michel Lind (salimma) - he / him / his
2024-08-28 16:04:22 <@davide:cavalca.name> let's get started
2024-08-28 16:04:23 <@davide:cavalca.name> !topic Followups
2024-08-28 16:04:30 <@daandemeyer/:matrix.org> !hi
2024-08-28 16:04:32 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Daan De Meyer (daandemeyer)
2024-08-28 16:04:45 <@davide:cavalca.name> let's see... we survived both flock and devconfus
2024-08-28 16:04:51 <@davide:cavalca.name> and the devconfus talks are up already
2024-08-28 16:04:54 <@salimma:fedora.im> somehow. yay
2024-08-28 16:04:57 <@davide:cavalca.name> still need to update our tracker page
2024-08-28 16:05:54 <@davide:cavalca.name> anybody else has followups?
2024-08-28 16:08:16 <@davide:cavalca.name> alright, let's move to
2024-08-28 16:08:21 <@davide:cavalca.name> !topic Announcements
2024-08-28 16:08:46 <@davide:cavalca.name> Matteo Croce: pushed an updated version of the rpm stack with CoW for c9s
2024-08-28 16:08:57 <@davide:cavalca.name> we're currently testing that internally at Meta
2024-08-28 16:09:16 <@davide:cavalca.name> as discussed at fosdem, the c10s one is waiting to see whether upstream ends up rebasing rpm or not
2024-08-28 16:09:50 <@davide:cavalca.name> also, while updating some home systems I realized our latest systemd release is not installable due to a conflict with grubby
2024-08-28 16:10:13 <@davide:cavalca.name> https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/systemd/c/a9807c4486037e2a47bae8ae7fcf3fa265ebdaab?branch=rawhide should fix that, this still needs to get pulled into Hyperscale (and then we need to make a release)
2024-08-28 16:10:22 <@daandemeyer/:matrix.org> I'll add grubby to the systemd-releng mkosi config packages
2024-08-28 16:10:29 <@daandemeyer/:matrix.org> That should add coverage for that
2024-08-28 16:10:35 <@davide:cavalca.name> awesome, thanks
2024-08-28 16:11:10 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> the flock talks are up too
2024-08-28 16:11:17 <@davide:cavalca.name> oh nice
2024-08-28 16:11:32 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> they just went up
2024-08-28 16:14:16 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> !link https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0x39xti0_6757itYwFBHqaZRdIiF43jO
2024-08-28 16:14:22 <@davide:cavalca.name> the other thing I wanted to mention is that at flock we've started experimenting with a unified docs site for CentOS, and I did some cleanup of the Hyperscale docs to fix absolute links so they'd work fine as part of that
2024-08-28 16:14:35 <@davide:cavalca.name> https://docs-centos-org-centos-docs-5f8c3c51aa463473c5b967945c3cf462908.gitlab.io/centos-hyperscale-sig/ is what it looks like in there (temporary URL obviously)
2024-08-28 16:14:37 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> !info Flock talks are up
2024-08-28 16:16:12 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> is the idea that there's be a single index that people can look from?
2024-08-28 16:16:26 <@davide:cavalca.name> yes, and a global search
2024-08-28 16:16:38 <@salimma:fedora.im> nice
2024-08-28 16:16:47 <@davide:cavalca.name> join #centos-docs:fedora.im if you're interested in helping out with this
2024-08-28 16:17:12 <@davide:cavalca.name> the idea is that once the contributor guide is moved over this could replace docs.centos.org
2024-08-28 16:21:34 <@davide:cavalca.name> anything else for announcements?
2024-08-28 16:23:27 <@salimma:fedora.im> we're getting ethtool 6.10 in Hyperscale
2024-08-28 16:23:48 <@salimma:fedora.im> definitely for hs.el9, maybe for hs.el10 too if RHEL maintainer won't upgrade from 6.7
2024-08-28 16:26:00 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> still troubleshooting the issues with kernel builds for c10s
2024-08-28 16:29:29 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> pretty sure the problem has something to do with builders on rhel8 and libkcapi
2024-08-28 16:30:18 <@salimma:fedora.im> ouch - the builders are still on RHEL 8 :O
2024-08-28 16:31:03 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> yeah, I'm not sure why the builders aren't upgraded to the latest rhel at least, if not latest centos stream
2024-08-28 16:36:17 <@davide:cavalca.name> next up
2024-08-28 16:36:18 <@davide:cavalca.name> !topic Tickets
2024-08-28 16:36:40 <@davide:cavalca.name> we should probably go over these and clean things up a bit when we have a moment
2024-08-28 16:37:04 <@davide:cavalca.name> but right now I don't think there's anything immediately actionable
2024-08-28 16:37:46 <@davide:cavalca.name> !topic Membership
2024-08-28 16:38:19 <@davide:cavalca.name> so https://pagure.io/centos-sig-hyperscale/sig/issue/163 has been open for 5 months now, and afaict the person mentioned there never actually joined any of the channels or introduced themselves
2024-08-28 16:39:02 <@davide:cavalca.name> I'd suggest closing this with a comment, as it seems a bit silly to bring it up every time (and they're obviously welcome to reopen it)
2024-08-28 16:39:23 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> we should just close it
2024-08-28 16:40:02 <@davide:cavalca.name> any objections?
2024-08-28 16:41:41 <@salimma:fedora.im> no, this is getting ridiculous
2024-08-28 16:42:10 <@salimma:fedora.im> but that remidns me, the follow up is to also poll inactive people regularly and make sure people listed as members are still active, right?
2024-08-28 16:42:20 <@davide:cavalca.name> yes, we also need to do that
2024-08-28 16:42:33 <@davide:cavalca.name> well, come up with a process to do that first, announce it, and then do it
2024-08-28 16:42:57 <@davide:cavalca.name> I've just closed that ticket in the meantime
2024-08-28 16:43:03 <@salimma:fedora.im> I guess we should discuss that either now or at the next meeting
2024-08-28 16:43:37 <@davide:cavalca.name> https://sigs.centos.org/hyperscale/policies/governance/ says
2024-08-28 16:43:44 <@davide:cavalca.name> > We do expect SIG members to actively contribute or otherwise remain engaged with the project, and will initiate removal of stale members after six months of inactivity.
2024-08-28 16:44:07 <@davide:cavalca.name> so that's a start
2024-08-28 16:44:58 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> we can probably just start doing it then
2024-08-28 16:45:15 <@davide:cavalca.name> we can, but I'd rather be nice about it
2024-08-28 16:45:28 <@davide:cavalca.name> easiest is probably to just email everyone and ask if they're still interested in being in the SIG
2024-08-28 16:45:49 <@davide:cavalca.name> I'd rather not be in the business of measuring whether what someone is doing counts as "engagement"
2024-08-28 16:46:51 <@davide:cavalca.name> also this page needs an update, it still references IRC and the wiki
2024-08-28 16:48:08 <@salimma:fedora.im> yeah, I think emailing every six months, then doing a reminder, before then purging should be fine
2024-08-28 16:48:42 <@salimma:fedora.im> so we probably should wordsmith it. basing it on the non-responsive maintainer policy or EPEL stalled request  in Fedora might be reasonable? 
2024-08-28 16:49:06 <@davide:cavalca.name> yeah, sounds good to me
2024-08-28 16:49:14 <@davide:cavalca.name> we can work on this async in the next couple of weeks
2024-08-28 16:49:43 <@salimma:fedora.im> yeah. I'll be away for the next meeting, but I can try putting up a PR before I leave next week
2024-08-28 16:50:06 <@davide:cavalca.name> oh right, I'll also be away for Plumbers
2024-08-28 16:50:10 <@salimma:fedora.im> !action Michel to draft the procedure for checking in with inactive members
2024-08-28 16:50:19 <@salimma:fedora.im> plumbers is after our next meeting right?
2024-08-28 16:50:39 <@davide:cavalca.name> oh you're right, I head out on the 13th
2024-08-28 16:50:45 <@davide:cavalca.name> so the next one is fine
2024-08-28 16:50:54 <@salimma:fedora.im> I'll be on PTO from next Thursday until the following Thursday
2024-08-28 16:51:28 <@salimma:fedora.im> and then fly out for Plumbers on 15th
2024-08-28 16:51:31 <@davide:cavalca.name> we only have a few minutes left, so let's move to
2024-08-28 16:51:32 <@davide:cavalca.name> !topic Miscellaneous
2024-08-28 16:52:11 <@davide:cavalca.name> anything else folks want to discuss?
2024-08-28 16:54:27 <@salimma:fedora.im> none from me
2024-08-28 16:54:46 <@davide:cavalca.name> I think we can end early then
2024-08-28 16:54:51 <@davide:cavalca.name> thanks everyone, and see you soon
2024-08-28 16:54:53 <@davide:cavalca.name> !endmeeting