21:00:28 #startmeeting Fedora CommOps hack session (2017-12-11) 21:00:28 Meeting started Mon Dec 11 21:00:28 2017 UTC. The chair is jwf. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 21:00:28 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 21:00:28 The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_commops_hack_session_(2017-12-11)' 21:00:28 meetbot.meeting.start -- jflory7 started meeting "Fedora CommOps hack session (2017-12-11)" in #fedora-commops 21:00:30 #meetingname commops 21:00:30 The meeting name has been set to 'commops' 21:00:34 #topic Hack time! 21:00:34 meetbot.meeting.topic.update -- The topic of jflory7's "Fedora CommOps hack session (2017-12-11)" meeting changed to "Hack time!" in #fedora-commops 21:00:44 Mostly running a meeting to collect URLs 21:01:16 https://meet.jit.si/fedora-commops 21:01:16 meetbot.meeting.item.link -- jflory7 linked to more information in the "Fedora CommOps hack session (2017-12-11)" meeting in #fedora-commops: "https://meet.jit.si/fedora-commops" 21:02:45 As a reminder, this is sort of like an office hours time. So if you need help or want to work on some Fedora things, feel free to jump in. :) 21:02:56 As promised, I'm working on the logic model. 21:03:08 So I'll be heads-down for a bit in that. 21:03:14 * jwf begins to do the thing 21:04:13 https://pagure.io/FedoraLogicModelTemplate 21:04:14 meetbot.meeting.item.link -- jflory7 linked to more information in the "Fedora CommOps hack session (2017-12-11)" meeting in #fedora-commops: "https://pagure.io/FedoraLogicModelTemplate" 21:12:16 @skamath see, he forgot the queen 😂😂 21:13:43 @JonaToni: Ahhh /o\ 21:13:44 My bad :P 21:13:53 Someone is in the Jitsi now, but I can't see/hear anything. 21:13:55 Wait what's going on 21:16:05 I will join in a few minutes :P 21:16:17 wesleyotugo: https://pagure.io/fedora-commops/issues 21:17:07 wesleyotugo: This might be better: https://pagure.io/fedora-commops/issues?status=Open&tags=easyfix 21:17:37 wesleyotugo: Another thing that might be interesting for you: https://opensource.com/article/17/5/introducing-riot-IRC 21:20:47 wesleyotugo: THe mic is skipping again :( 21:21:16 I wish audio/video calls weren't always this complicated, hahah 21:21:42 jwf: Network is very bad here and the internal mic volume just keeps lowering itself 21:21:52 wesleyotugo: I understand – we can type if that's easier! 21:22:20 wesleyotugo: I think the motivation for #127 is how to edit the wiki and have things format correctly with the new theme, like tables, for example 21:22:25 jwf: I was saying that I would like to draft an article for "2017 in Review" 21:22:27 @x3mboy can probably explain more on that one. 21:22:29 Ooh! 21:22:36 wesleyotugo: Yeah, actually, that would be very helpful! 21:22:41 This is the perfect time to do it. 21:22:49 We need to do an intro article like we did in 2015. Let me link you an example. 21:23:15 wesleyotugo: Something like this, with a little bit of updating: 21:23:16 #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/share-your-year-in-review-with-fedora/ 21:23:16 meetbot.meeting.item.link -- jflory7 linked to more information in the "Fedora CommOps hack session (2017-12-11)" meeting in #fedora-commops: "https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/share-your-year-in-review-with-fedora/" 21:23:36 We'd want to publish the article, and then reach out to different sub-projects to encourage them to right a year in review. 21:24:05 Examples of what we had two years ago: https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/tag/year-in-review/ 21:25:13 jwk: Okay but I am quite slow in typing, is there a changelog or something in that similar format for the new changes in the wiki 21:25:50 wesleyotugo: For this ticket, the best thing I would think of doing is to draft a new article to promote the "2017 Year in Reviews". If it helps, I could create a new draft based on the article from two years ago and assign it to you if that helps! 21:26:01 No worries. 21:26:28 Oh, maybe I see what you mean… 21:26:47 wesleyotugo: Do you mean a year in review that looks at technical changes in Fedora? Like what new things came into Fedora in 26 + 27? 21:26:55 jwf: Okay that would be splendid 21:27:08 Okay, I'll create the new draft then! Give me two minutes. :) 21:27:23 jwf: Yes, the technical changes across the fedora infrastructure 21:27:38 wesleyotugo: I think that would be really cool, because we haven't had one like that before 21:27:48 And I have a feeling a lot of people, even outside of Fedora, would like to read it. 21:27:55 Nice idea! 21:28:27 wesleyotugo: Also, since your mic is having issues, do you mind muting your mic? There's still some background noise that is getting picked up. 21:36:01 #link https://etherpad.persephone.cloud/p/fedora-year-in-review-2017 21:36:01 meetbot.meeting.item.link -- jflory7 linked to more information in the "Fedora CommOps hack session (2017-12-11)" meeting in #fedora-commops: "https://etherpad.persephone.cloud/p/fedora-year-in-review-2017" 21:40:46 are you in meeting or may I ask something? 21:43:29 Yes, I'm building an article about writing wikis 21:43:46 I wanted to publish it in the hacking session, but I had another appointment today 21:43:48 Sorry about that 21:52:05 Subway connection 21:52:06 pagure.issue.comment.added -- jflory7 commented on ticket fedora-commops#129: "Run 2017 "Year in Review" series on CommBlog" https://pagure.io/fedora-commops/issue/129#comment-484113 21:52:31 jibec: We're in a "hack session", so kind of like office hours or a really long open floor. 21:52:33 Ask away! 21:52:47 @x3mboy: No worries. You have started on something already, though? 21:53:13 jibec: We're also in a Jitsi call too, if you'd prefer audio/video: https://meet.jit.si/fedora-commops 21:53:25 oh, I just had a simple question 21:53:30 Sure! 21:53:46 I would like to have an extract of every bugzilla bugs 21:53:55 related to the translation components 21:54:03 Nope, just some researching. Also, Bex ask about adding a how to publish into docs, and for that part I have nothing yet 21:54:43 @x3mboy: Brian has a good point, but I think that's best to do a new ticket and new article. For this, I think it's best if you focus on tips for editing on the wiki after the theme update. 21:55:05 so, "Classification" would be "Fedora" and "Product" would be "Fedora Localization" 21:55:09 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/query.cgi?format=advanced 21:55:09 meetbot.meeting.item.link -- jibecfed linked to more information in the "Fedora CommOps hack session (2017-12-11)" meeting in #fedora-commops: "https://bugzilla.redhat.com/query.cgi?format=advanced" 21:55:28 jibec: Hmm. So any Bugzilla bug related to translation. I think Bugzilla is in fedmsg now. How are you trying to collect the info? 21:55:34 fedmsg or a Bugzilla advanced search? 21:55:39 I know datagrepper has the data, I just don't know how to query it 21:55:47 Ahhh, okay, I understand now. 21:56:16 jibec: For this, I'd say our subject-area experts are @skamath and @bee2502, but I think both of them are out for the night. 21:56:19 .localtime skamath 21:56:20 jwf: The current local time of "skamath" is: "03:26" (timezone: Asia/Kolkata) 21:56:23 .localtime bee2502 21:56:25 jwf: The current local time of "bee2502" is: "22:56" (timezone: Europe/Berlin) 21:56:41 jibec: You could write to the CommOps mailing list about this. 21:57:01 I think one or both of them could help answer your question. 21:57:15 jwf: Is there a draft I could work with or I should stick with https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/share-your-year-in-review-with-fedora/ 21:57:16 ok, I'll send an email 21:57:22 thanks jwf 21:57:28 jibec: Yep, happy to help! 21:58:17 wesleyotugo: For writing an article about a Fedora Infra app, I think this outline is a good template to follow. https://screenshots.firefox.com/vHDhgHPXgarySJOM/communityblog.fedoraproject.org 21:58:22 I'll probably keep that the same. 21:58:48 wesleyotugo: For the actual article, I think you can create a new one from https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/wp-admin/ 21:59:35 So, for every app, you could do three highlights and a goal for 2018. :) 21:59:56 Does that make sense? 22:01:24 jwf: Yes *thumbs up* 22:01:35 Great! 22:01:54 Oh, I'm going to do this for Meetbot purposes: 22:01:56 #chair wesleyotugo jonatoni 22:01:56 Current chairs: jonatoni jwf wesleyotugo 22:02:40 jwf: As for the goal part, how do I get in touch with each project team lead ? 22:03:03 wesleyotugo: It depends on the project. If you tell me what project you're working on, I can point you in the right direction or help you find the right person to ask. 22:04:52 I have a feeling the project team leads will be excited to know you are working on this. If it were me, I'd be happy to hear and help someone do this. :) 22:06:54 jwf: Fantastic, also Is there a list out there of Fedora infra many many applications or is the github the substantive list? 22:07:57 wesleyotugo: Yes and no. On GitHub, you will find the changelogs and other helpful information to write the article. If you want to see what apps there in Fedora Infra, to pick a project to work on, https://apps.fedoraproject.org might be helpful. 22:08:26 Maybe it will be easier to first find a project on apps.fedoraproject.org, and when you find one that is interesting, you can look for it on GitHub to find the changelogs. 22:08:53 Make sense? 22:12:27 wesleyotugo: In about 10 minutes, I'm going to head off for a little bit. I'll be back later, but for now, do you have any other questions for me or is there something you would like my help with? 22:16:44 nauticalnexus: Sorry, I just saw your earlier message. We were in the hack session! 22:17:02 It could go on for longer, if people like, but I have to jump off. 22:17:15 What's the hack session..? 22:17:20 * jwf just jumped off Jitsi 22:17:29 jwf: Sorry for the delayed response. So much applications but I think I am going to start with bodhi 22:17:53 @nauticalnexus: It's like an "office hours" for our team, for people to work on things, ask for help, or get feedback. :) https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Hack_session 22:18:16 wesleyotugo: No worries! Bodhi is a great one to start with! bowlofeggs, or Randy Barlow, is your guy to ask about 2018 goals. 22:18:24 wesleyotugo: You can find him in #bodhi channel. 22:18:38 Oh, is talking required? Severe social anxiety here 22:19:21 wesleyotugo: I'm about to jump off, but if you don't have an IRC bouncer (or a way to stay connected to IRC when you leave your computer), definitely look at this! https://opensource.com/article/17/5/introducing-riot-IRC 22:19:34 Alternatively, we also have the Telegram group too. https://t.me/fedoracommops 22:20:07 @nauticalnexus: Nope! Not required. Some people hang out in there and listen, some people just hang out in IRC, like jibec did a little bit ago. 22:20:29 For some people, the video call is an easier way to communicate, which is why I try to mix it up a little bit and do that. 22:20:37 Oh awesome. I get nervous when it comes to like, voice chats. It used to be much worse. 22:20:48 Like I wouldn't even want to listen to anyone else haha 22:20:51 So that way, people who have different preferences for communication can have a chance to use the format they prefer. 22:21:04 @nauticalnexus: Then it's fine just the same to be in IRC / Telegram. :) 22:21:33 jwf: Thanks for the reminder and for the linkup. I should be able to draft up something on bodhi in an hour and send to you 22:21:47 No it used to be like that lmao. I don't mind voice if I don't have to voice as well 22:22:10 nauticalnexus: Ahh, I understand now. 22:22:40 wesleyotugo: Amazing! Whenever you can, that would be awesome. For reference, I wanted to publish the "intro" article on Monday. So if you wanted to take 1-2 days on it too, that's okay too! 22:22:46 Yeah :P 22:23:36 wesleyotugo: Thanks for your interest in this task. Honestly, I don't think I would have thought of it unless you mentioned it. Your time is super appreciated on this! wesleyotugo++ 22:23:36 jwf: Karma for wesleyotugo changed to 1 (for the f27 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 22:23:37 irc.karma -- jflory7 gave wesleyotugo(4) a karma cookie in #fedora-commops. "wesleyotugo: Thanks for your interest in this task. Honestly, I don't think I would have thought of it unless you mentioned it. Your time is super appreciated on this! wesleyotugo++" https://badges.fedoraproject.org/user/wesleyotugo 22:23:50 I'm going to jump off now, be back in a bit! 22:24:41 Okay, ttyl! 22:25:39 jwf: Yeah 1 or 2 days, i just want to familiarize you with my writing style before we draw out this article 23:24:39 wesleyotugo: Good thinking. Feel free to send over anything to me, I'm happy to review anytime. 23:24:59 I might be slow to respond from Wednesday until Monday because of my university exams. 23:36:32 Good point, I will do that. Split the ticket and write different article 12:53:45 Connected from Riot 13:37:39 x3mboy: Welcome welcome :) 13:49:07 Thanks! 13:49:16 The app is a little heavy, but the look is quite nice 14:06:51 x3mboy: The mobile support is really why I use it. So easy for IRC on the go, and you can have multiple IRC networks together at once. 15:42:45 pagure.issue.comment.added -- pvoborni commented on ticket pagure#2716: "Sort milestones correctly in Pagure repo settings" https://pagure.io/pagure/issue/2716#comment-484287 15:51:08 FYI jwf, i finally decided not to send any email to commops mailing list, simple bugzilla filters are sufficient to reach my goal 15:51:16 have a nice day 16:00:03 fedocal.meeting.reminder -- Friendly reminder! The "Fedora QA 102" meeting from the "classroom" calendar starts in 23 hours https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/8692/ 16:24:06 jibec: Thanks for the update! 17:06:16 As a note, I'm not sure if I'll get the logic model done before tonight, so I think I'll focus on getting an accurate number for budget, then submit the proposal 21:18:48 dennisotugo[m]: Oh, hey, I think I recognize you now, I was looking for your other nick. :) 21:24:39 > dennisotugo[m]: Oh, hey, I think I recognize you now, I was looking for your other nick. :) 21:24:39 Yes, I always go by wesleyotugo or dennisotugo when wesleyotugo is not available 23:08:13 wesleyotugo: Makes sense. A tip, if you message @appservice-irc:matrix.org and send `!nick chat.freenode.net wesleyotugo`, your username will change on the IRC side of the bridge too. :) 23:34:28 Hi 23:41:42 > wesleyotugo: Makes sense. A tip, if you message @appservice-irc:matrix.org and send !nick chat.freenode.net wesleyotugo, your username will change on the IRC side of the bridge too. :) 23:41:43 https://opensource.com/article/17/5/introducing-riot-IRC, There's a line '!nick irc.freenode.net ' I have been trying to use that 23:41:43 meetbot.meeting.item.link -- wesleyotugo linked to more information in the "Fedora CommOps hack session (2017-12-11)" meeting in #fedora-commops: "https://opensource.com/article/17/5/introducing-riot-IRC, There's a line '!nick irc.freenode.net ' I have been trying to use that" https://opensource.com/article/17/5/introducing-riot-IRC, 01:58:53 nauticalnexus: Hello hello o/ 01:59:14 wesleyotugo: All good now! Now your name in IRC is wesleyotugo too. 02:00:39 x3mboy: Not sure if you have filed any issues for some of the pain points in the wiki, but I just filed a good few: https://pagure.io/fedora-mediawikitheme/issues 02:00:54 x3mboy: Perhaps before writing the article, we should get the issues filed and see what ryanlerch thinks. 02:00:59 Maybe they can be fixed first. 02:07:17 what's up jwf|matrix 02:35:11 nauticalnexus: Wrapping up from a long day. Putting the last few touches on our FAD proposal and then going to bundle down for the heavy winter storm we're getting tonight 02:35:27 Supposed to get up to a foot… we had 3-5 inches in the last 24 hours. 02:35:29 Brrrrrr 02:35:40 :( 02:36:26 what is matrix btw 02:36:58 It's not too bad, once you get used to it. I'm lucky and don't have any final exams tomorrow, my first is on Thursday \o/ 02:37:27 jwf|matrix, I could neeeeever get used to that 02:37:47 nauticalnexus: Check this out to get a quick gist. :) https://opensource.com/article/17/5/introducing-riot-IRC 02:38:08 nauticalnexus: That's what I said, coming from Atlanta, but it grew on me a bit. Maybe ask me again in February and I might feel differently. :P 02:38:29 jwf|matrix, omg that's amazing 02:39:37 lmao 02:39:55 So I have a day 1 Xbox One, it was my brothers but he got a One X and this just isn't being used anymore so it's like whatever 02:40:11 aaaaandMicrosoft has this "Hey we'll choose a console for you after you answer some questions" 02:40:23 So I was like "I don't need 4k or anything I just want something to play games" 02:40:27 they recommended the One X 02:41:43 I did it again and said I just want to play games and it's like "Okay here One S" 02:57:31 nauticalnexus: Seems like a mess to go through for something simple. 02:57:37 Okay all, the Council ticket is filed 02:57:42 https://pagure.io/Fedora-Council/tickets/issue/159 02:57:42 meetbot.meeting.item.link -- jwf|matrix linked to more information in the "Fedora CommOps hack session (2017-12-11)" meeting in #fedora-commops: "https://pagure.io/Fedora-Council/tickets/issue/159" 02:57:57 Oh, the meeting /\o/ 02:57:57 jwf|matrix, ikr, I just want a cheap Xbox One that isn't from 2013 lol 02:58:01 #endmeeting 02:58:10 LOL 02:58:15 mailman.receive -- notifications wrote 'jflory7's meeting titled "Fedora CommOps hack session (2017-12-11)" ended in #fedora-commops' to the meetingminutes list https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/meetingminutes@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/CCQ7WO6WS5J5X7G7J4N5OWHYIN6ZR3VL/ 02:58:43 Yikes, I should be more mindful of that next time. 02:58:53 Anyways, on that note, I'm headed to bed to get some extra sleep to knock out this cold 02:59:03 jwf|matrix, does this keep me on irc 24/7 like my bouncer? 02:59:06 Night all! 😴 02:59:18 nauticalnexus: Yep, it does! One of the reasons I love it. Plus, it has amazing mobile support. 02:59:23 * jwf|matrix poofs 02:59:25 Oh that's awesome 02:59:26 night! 02:59:45 rip me for a few moments then 03:03:42 Does the testing work 03:03:55 it do 03:06:30 yippee 03:08:04 fedocal.meeting.update -- skamath updated the "Fedora QA 102" meeting from the "classroom" calendar https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/8692/ 11:04:09 @jflory , when you are around, can you please add @FedstatsBot to this group? It will be silent and will not interfere with any activities. 11:04:44 I'd like to testrun the Telegram perceval plugin. 13:22:19 @skamath For this group only? I think anyone can add to this group. I'll swing through Telegram in a bit and grab it. 13:33:42 Fedora Statistics Bot (@FedstatsBot) has joined the Telegram Group! 13:55:36 Awesome. Thanks. 16:01:42 A fedora statistics bot you say? 16:20:04 @nauticalnexus I think @skamath is poking around with a few things. :-) Hopefully we'll know more details soon. 16:20:26 : o okay 16:21:02 Yeah, I am playing around with some tools. I'll have some interesting graphs to share soon. 16:21:11 Looking forward to see. :) 17:35:14 Okay, have an exam to take care of today and a few other things. Hopping off Freenode for the rest of the day. Anything urgent, please ping on Telegram. 17:35:15 Ciao! 17:39:27 fedocal.meeting.update -- jonatoni updated the "EMEA Ambassadors" meeting from the "ambassadors" calendar https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/8688/ 13:46:40 fedocal.meeting.update -- jonatoni updated the "EMEA Ambassadors" meeting from the "ambassadors" calendar https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/8688/ 18:33:33 fedocal.meeting.update -- pwhalen updated the "Fedora ARM & AArch64 status meeting" meeting from the "SIGs" calendar https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/5170/ 01:07:58 fedocal.meeting.new -- smooge created a "Stephen Smoogen" meeting in the "vacation" calendar https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/8699/ 14:26:06 pagure.issue.comment.added -- jflory7 commented on ticket fedora-diversity#39: "Budget Request for FWD in Prishtina" https://pagure.io/fedora-diversity/issue/39#comment-484804 14:26:14 pagure.issue.tag.removed -- jflory7 removed the blocked tags from ticket fedora-diversity#39 https://pagure.io/fedora-diversity/issue/39 04:07:23 bexelbie do you have a moment? 17:38:02 #endmeeting 18:10:12 #endmeeting