17:01:40 <bcotton> #startmeeting Council (2021-09-30) 17:01:40 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Sep 30 17:01:40 2021 UTC. 17:01:40 <zodbot> This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 17:01:40 <zodbot> The chair is bcotton. Information about MeetBot at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions. 17:01:40 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 17:01:40 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'council_(2021-09-30)' 17:01:44 <bcotton> #meetingname council 17:01:44 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'council' 17:01:53 <bcotton> #chair bookwar dcantrell siddharthvipul1 riecatnor spot mattdm bcotton sumantrom marianab bt0 rparimisheher[m] t0xic0der 17:01:53 <zodbot> Current chairs: bcotton bookwar dcantrell siddharthvipul1 riecatnor spot mattdm bcotton sumantrom bt0 marianab rparimisheher[m] t0xic0der 17:01:58 <bcotton> #topic Introductions, Welcomes 17:02:05 <t0xic0der> .hi 17:02:06 <bcotton> hey friends, who is here today? 17:02:06 <zodbot> t0xic0der: t0xic0der 'Akashdeep Dhar' <akashdeep.dhar@gmail.com> 17:02:11 <dcantrell> .hello2 17:02:12 <zodbot> dcantrell: dcantrell 'David Cantrell' <dcantrell@redhat.com> 17:02:19 <bt0> .hello2 17:02:19 <zodbot> bt0: Sorry, but user 'bt0' does not exist 17:02:28 <bt0> .hello bt0dotninja 17:02:29 <zodbot> bt0: bt0dotninja 'Alberto Rodriguez Sanchez' <hotgalan@gmail.com> 17:02:34 <bt0> Hi 17:02:36 <bt0> :) 17:02:45 <Eighth_Doctor> .hello ngompa 17:02:46 <zodbot> Eighth_Doctor: ngompa 'Neal Gompa' <ngompa13@gmail.com> 17:03:09 <riecatnor[m]> for some reason my IRC isn't working 17:03:18 <riecatnor[m]> .hello riecatnor 17:03:19 <zodbot> riecatnor[m]: riecatnor 'Marie Nordin' <mnordin@redhat.com> 17:03:28 <riecatnor[m]> hi peeps :) 17:03:40 <bt0> o/ 17:03:54 <bcotton> IRC: Irritate Rie Cat? 17:03:58 <riecatnor> .hello riecatnor 17:03:59 <zodbot> riecatnor: riecatnor 'Marie Nordin' <mnordin@redhat.com> 17:04:14 <riecatnor[m]> ok, wow that was sooo delayed 17:04:36 <riecatnor[m]> shrug 17:04:54 <bcotton> we get there eventually :-) 17:04:58 <bcotton> #topic Today's agenda 17:05:05 <bcotton> #info Objective session at the release party 17:05:13 <bcotton> #info In-person events 17:05:17 <bcotton> #info Your topics here! 17:05:29 <bcotton> #topic Objective session at the release party 17:05:40 <bcotton> all you, riecatnor riecatnor 17:06:05 <riecatnor[m]> sure, mattdm_ and I were discussing topics for the upcoming release party and Objectives came up 17:06:31 <riecatnor[m]> We have been low on them for some time, not many new things in the pipeline.. the idea is to create awareness and visibility 17:07:23 <riecatnor[m]> I think it would be great to take this on as the Council- basically, I am asking for a couple volunteers to help make the presentation a success :) 17:08:01 <bcotton> what does success look like here? 17:09:26 <riecatnor[m]> great question- I think the final product is a 25 minute session with slides that covers the basics of objectives, examples of past objectives and hopefully empowers folks with ideas to submit them 17:10:12 <bcotton> i humbly submit that our current objective leads would be good candidates to help :-) 17:11:16 <riecatnor[m]> I support that :) but open to whomever might be interested 17:12:49 <bcotton> anyone want to volunteer right now? 17:14:07 <bcotton> well, the offer is there. and i think riecatnor should feel empowered to draft people if no one volunteers :-D 17:15:09 <bcotton> #topic In-person events 17:15:16 <bcotton> #link https://pagure.io/Fedora-Council/tickets/issue/379 17:15:20 <bcotton> oh hey, it's riecatnor time again! 17:15:28 <riecatnor[m]> :) 17:15:59 <riecatnor[m]> This came up because Mindshare received a request for swag for an in person event 17:16:18 <riecatnor[m]> I think we will start to see more requests, and I would like to have an established stance 17:17:00 <riecatnor[m]> I put questions on the ticket, we could hash them out now, or folks can leave thoughts there 17:17:09 <riecatnor[m]> What health safety standards are we holding events to? 17:17:09 <riecatnor[m]> The Mindshare process should be revised- what information will we require from folks requesting support? 17:17:09 <riecatnor[m]> Are other communities addressing/thinking about this? 17:17:09 <riecatnor[m]> What to do if we decide to support an event that later violates safety precautions? 17:17:57 <riecatnor[m]> I think these questions are a good place to start. 17:18:04 <bcotton> so i think we should split it into multiple questions: providing swag, sponsoring, and paying for people to travel/attend 17:18:20 <bcotton> (maybe the sponsorship one belongs with one of the other two) 17:19:10 <bcotton> i don't know if we want to have our own set of safety rules or just say "you solemnly swear you will follow the local requirements" 17:19:51 <riecatnor[m]> I think asking for a dated local mandate + the event guidelines 17:20:00 <riecatnor[m]> would be reasonable 17:21:08 <bcotton> is the idea checking that they followed them, or just knowing what they are to inform the decision process 17:21:58 <bcotton> e.g. if the local guidelines say "everyone must stand within 2 feet of another person at all times and sneeze on everything" then we will decide to decline funding? 17:22:01 <riecatnor[m]> the second, I think it would be very difficult for us to confirm that they were followed 17:22:32 <riecatnor[m]> if they said that, yes lol 17:22:38 <copperi[m]1> Trust on people ? 17:23:35 <riecatnor[m]> Another point to acknowledge is that we need to adhere to Red Hat's current policies on supporting community events 17:23:44 <bt0> right 17:24:19 <bcotton> are those available publicly? because that would be very helpful 17:24:36 <riecatnor[m]> good question, Ben- I am not sure, I will have to look into it 17:25:09 <bcotton> copperi: yeah, i think we should trust people. but if we find out that someone completely ignored the local policy, they should expect to have a hard time the next time they ask for money :-) 17:25:33 <copperi[m]1> Ben: yes 17:25:46 <riecatnor[m]> Its less about trusting or distrust and more about making sure Fedorans are safe 17:25:58 <riecatnor[m]> imo 17:27:43 <bcotton> anyone else have thoughts? 17:28:04 <bt0> not here 17:30:34 <bcotton> riecatnor, bt0 does mindshare need immediate input or do they have what they need for the pending request? 17:30:47 <riecatnor[m]> we have what we need for the immediate request 17:30:54 <bcotton> cool 17:31:28 <bcotton> i may write up a strawman proposal for us to discuss later, but if anyone else wants to beat me to it, please feel free :-) 17:32:50 <bcotton> #topic Next meeting 17:32:57 <bcotton> #info The next video meeting is Thursday 14 October. It will take place an hour earlier. The topic will be Matrix 17:33:01 <bcotton> #info The next regular business meeting is Thursday 28 October 17:33:08 <bcotton> #topic Do we have anything to announce? 17:33:15 <bcotton> #info This is a regular check to make sure we're communicating to the contributor (via CommBlog) and user (via Magazine) communities 17:33:19 <bcotton> #info Previously announced 17:33:23 <bcotton> #info Nest videos are posted 17:33:31 <bcotton> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/nest-with-fedora-2021-recordings-now-available/ 17:34:35 <bcotton> #info Fedora Week of Diversity starts Sunday (CommBlog post coming) 17:34:37 <bcotton> anything else? 17:34:52 <riecatnor[m]> yep 17:34:54 <riecatnor[m]> one sec 17:35:19 <riecatnor[m]> #info Fedora Linux 35 Release Party is Nov 12th & 13th, registration now open 17:35:21 <riecatnor[m]> #link https://hopin.com/events/fedora-linux-35-release-party/registration 17:35:27 <bcotton> ah yes! 17:35:31 <Eighth_Doctor> woot 17:35:38 <copperi[m]1> nice 17:35:53 <Eighth_Doctor> whoa, hopin got fancy 17:35:58 <riecatnor[m]> #info videos from Fedora Women's Day 2020 are up! (finally) and we will be promoting them during the Fedora Week of Diversity 17:36:02 <riecatnor[m]> #link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seFQRILobxM&list=PL0x39xti0_64NxdF68V6eZ1JWUQtHbR3E 17:36:17 <bt0> amazing!!! 17:36:22 <riecatnor[m]> hmmm thats not the right link 17:36:25 <riecatnor[m]> #undo 17:36:30 <riecatnor[m]> #link https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0x39xti0_64NxdF68V6eZ1JWUQtHbR3E 17:36:35 <riecatnor[m]> there it is 17:36:44 <bt0> amazing!!! (with the correct link) 17:36:44 <riecatnor[m]> yea hopin did get fancy for the reg page :) 17:37:09 <riecatnor[m]> thanks to Onuralp Sezer for all of the video editing for FWD 17:37:12 <riecatnor[m]> !! 17:37:38 <riecatnor[m]> ok thats it for me. 17:38:04 <bcotton> thunderbirdtr++ 17:38:04 <zodbot> bcotton: Karma for thunderbirdtr changed to 9 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 17:38:16 <bcotton> anyone else have announcements? 17:38:20 <riecatnor[m]> thunderbirdtr++ 17:38:35 <bt0> thunderbirdtr++ 17:38:35 <zodbot> bt0: Karma for thunderbirdtr changed to 10 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 17:39:08 <Eighth_Doctor> thunderbirdtr++ 17:39:48 <bcotton> #topic Open floor 17:39:56 <bcotton> wow, look at us with time left 17:40:28 <Eighth_Doctor> 🤯 17:40:32 <bcotton> anything else to discuss this time around? 17:41:04 <riecatnor[m]> hows the element stuff goin 17:41:16 <riecatnor[m]> are we all set up or is there more to do? 17:42:01 <riecatnor[m]> that might be a mattdm- question and he is not here, so I can find out later :) 17:43:15 <t0xic0der> There are a couple of updates from the mentored projects side but I suspect that is more of a mindshare discussion. 17:43:58 * bcotton knows nothing (or at least very little) 17:44:11 <mattdm> More to do. Hold on a sec... 17:44:51 <copperi[m]1> It is going forward ... 17:44:58 <bt0> :P 17:45:13 <mattdm> https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/official-launch-checklist/33254/ 17:45:45 <mattdm> #help I think the main thing here is really "write a bunch of docs" 17:46:59 <riecatnor[m]> Cool :) 17:48:22 <bcotton> okay, last call for open floor 17:49:49 <bcotton> alrighty, thanks everyone! see you around 17:49:52 <bcotton> #endmeeting