2023-11-08 15:03:31 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !startmeeting Fedora Council - 2023-11-08
2023-11-08 15:03:32 <@meetbot:fedora.im> Meeting started at 2023-11-08 15:03:31 UTC
2023-11-08 15:03:32 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting name is 'Fedora Council - 2023-11-08'
2023-11-08 15:03:36 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !meetingname council
2023-11-08 15:03:49 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !topic Hello's, welcome's, & chit chat
2023-11-08 15:03:54 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Howdy everyone 👋
2023-11-08 15:03:59 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Who do we have for quorum today?
2023-11-08 15:04:02 <@mattdm:fedora.im> https://calendar.fedoraproject.org/council/#m10251
2023-11-08 15:04:04 <@sumantrom:fedora.im> Howdy all! 
2023-11-08 15:04:08 <@mattdm:fedora.im> I'm here!
2023-11-08 15:04:18 <@sumantrom:fedora.im> hey mattdm :)
2023-11-08 15:04:18 <@jonatoni:fedora.im> hi 👋
2023-11-08 15:04:22 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Cool, so we are in the right place :)
2023-11-08 15:04:37 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Hey Sumantro Mukherjee Jona Azizaj mattdm! 👋
2023-11-08 15:05:18 <@mattdm:fedora.im> Except that is still IRC. We should get that all straightened out
2023-11-08 15:05:46 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Soon™
2023-11-08 15:06:05 <@jflory7:fedora.im> At least today, we are starting with an agenda actually prepared in advance and not 10 minutes before the meeting :)
2023-11-08 15:06:09 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Hey Aoife Moloney 👋
2023-11-08 15:06:23 <@amoloney:fedora.im> hi there! was over in the wrong channel :)
2023-11-08 15:06:35 <@jflory7:fedora.im> All good. Now you are here :)
2023-11-08 15:06:50 <@jflory7:fedora.im> We were just taking attendance and getting settled in. It is a decent quorum today :)
2023-11-08 15:07:17 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Not sure if David Cantrell or bookwar are around.
2023-11-08 15:07:59 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Agenda for today: https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/upcoming-fedora-council-meetings/35619/74
2023-11-08 15:08:03 <@amoloney:fedora.im> Good to hear, there are a few topics that need deciding on so a quorum is definitely a plus
2023-11-08 15:08:36 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Aoife Moloney: Do you want to take over from here, or want me to pilot until the main agenda topics?
2023-11-08 15:09:40 <@amoloney:fedora.im> happy to take the reins, but could you and whoever else would like to continue to keep chair privs?
2023-11-08 15:09:58 <@mattdm:fedora.im> we usually chair everyone so anyone can make notes
2023-11-08 15:10:00 <@jflory7:fedora.im> No problem. I will pass it to you for the ticket discussions :)
2023-11-08 15:10:08 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !topic News, announcements, & community updates
2023-11-08 15:10:24 <@jflory7:fedora.im> The old concept of chairing is gone with Matrix Meetbot. Or maybe it will come back eventually, I am not sure.
2023-11-08 15:10:32 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Anyways…
2023-11-08 15:10:38 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Anyone have news, updates, cool things to share?
2023-11-08 15:10:45 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Other than, you know, the obvious :)
2023-11-08 15:10:55 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !info Fedora Linux 39 officially released yesterday 🎉
2023-11-08 15:11:15 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Congrats all on another successful release 🎆
2023-11-08 15:11:46 <@mattdm:fedora.im> Yay!!!!!
2023-11-08 15:12:13 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Oh, I actually have another one I learned about from Akashdeep Dhar 
2023-11-08 15:12:13 <@amoloney:fedora.im> well done all, it was a tough release but I take my proverbial hat off to everyone who pulled together to get it done :)
2023-11-08 15:12:44 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !info A Pagure Exporter tool is now available. Pagure repos, including issues and labels, can now be imported over into GitLab. More to come on the Community Blog soon.
2023-11-08 15:12:45 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !link https://github.com/gridhead/pagure-exporter
2023-11-08 15:12:48 <@t0xic0der:fedora.im> Hello everyone, I got summoned :)
2023-11-08 15:13:27 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Aoife Moloney++ Congrats on surviving a release in hardly 2-3 weeks in your new role :) I am sure you are on rollercoaster ride the past week!
2023-11-08 15:13:41 <@zodbot:fedora.im> You have already given cookies to amoloney during the F39 timeframe
2023-11-08 15:13:47 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Akashdeep Dhar++ on the Pagure Exporter :)
2023-11-08 15:13:48 <@zodbot:fedora.im> jflory7 gave a cookie to t0xic0der. They now have 41 cookie(s), 1 of which were obtained in the Fedora 39 release cycle
2023-11-08 15:14:01 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Mmmm, fresh F39 cookies 🍪
2023-11-08 15:14:03 <@t0xic0der:fedora.im> Aoife Moloney++ :)
2023-11-08 15:14:05 <@zodbot:fedora.im> t0xic0der gave a cookie to amoloney. They now have 23 cookie(s), 2 of which were obtained in the Fedora 39 release cycle
2023-11-08 15:14:15 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> Akashdeep Dhar++
2023-11-08 15:14:17 <@zodbot:fedora.im> neil gave a cookie to t0xic0der. They now have 42 cookie(s), 2 of which were obtained in the Fedora 39 release cycle
2023-11-08 15:14:42 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Yessss this is what I missed in Fedora the last couple years… cookie parties in meetings 😁
2023-11-08 15:14:46 <@sumantrom:fedora.im> Akashdeep Dhar: ++
2023-11-08 15:14:49 <@zodbot:fedora.im> sumantrom gave a cookie to t0xic0der. They now have 43 cookie(s), 3 of which were obtained in the Fedora 39 release cycle
2023-11-08 15:15:00 <@t0xic0der:fedora.im> Neil Hanlon++
2023-11-08 15:15:02 <@zodbot:fedora.im> t0xic0der gave a cookie to neil. They now have 1 cookie(s), 1 of which were obtained in the Fedora 39 release cycle
2023-11-08 15:15:04 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Jona Azizaj: Oh BTW, want to share an update on FAW?
2023-11-08 15:15:16 <@jonatoni:fedora.im> yes 🎉
2023-11-08 15:15:23 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Lurkers welcome, these are public for a reason :)
2023-11-08 15:15:42 <@jonatoni:fedora.im> we have some articles that we can share - need to find the links quickly
2023-11-08 15:15:46 <@bt0dotninja:fedora.im> 🥳
2023-11-08 15:16:01 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Hey bt0dotninja :)
2023-11-08 15:16:06 <@bt0dotninja:fedora.im> Hey
2023-11-08 15:16:08 <@t0xic0der:fedora.im> Jona Azizaj++ for leading the FAW efforts! 
2023-11-08 15:16:09 <@zodbot:fedora.im> t0xic0der gave a cookie to jonatoni. They now have 90 cookie(s), 4 of which were obtained in the Fedora 39 release cycle
2023-11-08 15:16:47 <@jonatoni:fedora.im> This week started Fedora Appreciation Week, and we are publishing articles daily to highlight contributor stories and favorite moments from the community 
2023-11-08 15:17:10 <@jonatoni:fedora.im> Day 1: https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/appreciation-week-2023-day-1/
2023-11-08 15:17:25 <@jonatoni:fedora.im> Day 2: https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/appreciation-week-2023-day-2/
2023-11-08 15:17:40 <@jonatoni:fedora.im> and day 3: https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/appreciation-week-2023-day-3/
2023-11-08 15:17:43 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !info This week started Fedora Appreciation Week, as part of our 20th anniversary celebration. The DEI Team is publishing articles daily to highlight contributor stories and favorite moments from the community.
2023-11-08 15:17:45 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/tag/fedora-appreciation-week/
2023-11-08 15:17:52 <@zodbot:fedora.im> You have already given cookies to jonatoni during the F39 timeframe
2023-11-08 15:18:08 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Jona Azizaj: Thanks for driving the CommBlog series :) These are really fun to see
2023-11-08 15:18:16 <@jflory7:fedora.im> And Councilfolk, it is not too late to write a story :)
2023-11-08 15:18:22 <@zodbot:fedora.im> abompard gave a cookie to jonatoni. They now have 91 cookie(s), 5 of which were obtained in the Fedora 39 release cycle
2023-11-08 15:18:23 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !link https://gitlab.com/fedora/dei/stories
2023-11-08 15:18:24 <@jonatoni:fedora.im> it's still not too late for everyone to join :) more info on FAW here https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fedora-appreciation-week-2023/
2023-11-08 15:19:11 <@jflory7:fedora.im> OK… any other news, announcements, community updates?
2023-11-08 15:19:30 <@amoloney:fedora.im> I had one written last night, clicked sumbit, got a 403 coz I wasnt signed in and then lost the will to live when I hit back and the template had cleared 😭 but I will get one done today
2023-11-08 15:19:31 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Going once…
2023-11-08 15:19:43 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Noooo 😭
2023-11-08 15:19:51 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> r i p
2023-11-08 15:19:57 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Going twice for news and updates…
2023-11-08 15:20:10 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Going thrice…
2023-11-08 15:20:23 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Next topic ✅
2023-11-08 15:20:32 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !topic Ticket discussions & agenda items
2023-11-08 15:20:44 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Aoife Moloney: I will pass it to you for these. Where do you want to start?
2023-11-08 15:20:55 <@amoloney:fedora.im> I got it (I hope)
2023-11-08 15:21:26 <@amoloney:fedora.im> !topic Decide location for Council Hackfest 2024
2023-11-08 15:21:45 <@amoloney:fedora.im> !link https://pagure.io/Fedora-Council/tickets/issue/469
2023-11-08 15:22:27 <@amoloney:fedora.im> The choices are Vienna and Amsterdam
2023-11-08 15:22:30 <@amoloney:fedora.im> pick :)
2023-11-08 15:22:51 <@jflory7:fedora.im> So, who from the Council is planning to be at FOSDEM? 🤔
2023-11-08 15:22:53 <@amoloney:fedora.im> Theres a discussion open here, which I think most have contributed to
2023-11-08 15:22:57 <@amoloney:fedora.im> !https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/fedora-council-tickets-ticket-469-fedora-council-hackfest-2024/94761
2023-11-08 15:23:26 <@dcantrell:fedora.im> hi, sorry I'm late
2023-11-08 15:23:38 <@dcantrell:fedora.im> did I miss anything?
2023-11-08 15:23:43 <@jflory7:fedora.im> All good, good morning!
2023-11-08 15:23:52 <@jflory7:fedora.im> David Cantrell: We are just getting into the Council hackfest topic
2023-11-08 15:23:56 <@mattdm:fedora.im> It looks like David and I have a light preference for Vienna, and Aoife and Jona for Amsterdam, although I know bookwar was excited about the night train from FOSDEM so that might change Jona Azizaj's opinion too
2023-11-08 15:23:56 <@jflory7:fedora.im> re: location and city
2023-11-08 15:24:27 <@amoloney:fedora.im> Im happy to go to Vienna, theres more value for that venue for both you and David who are travelling a fair distance to be there
2023-11-08 15:24:28 <@mattdm:fedora.im> but it looks kind of like a coin toss, overall.
2023-11-08 15:24:36 <@dcantrell:fedora.im> ah.  my preference is still Vienna as that makes it easy for me to continue to Brno for team stuff.  but either way I don't care
2023-11-08 15:24:43 <@jflory7:fedora.im> mattdm: You and David Cantrell are or are not planning for FOSDEM as well?
2023-11-08 15:25:01 <@dcantrell:fedora.im> right now I am going to try to make it to FOSDEM, but it is not a definite for me
2023-11-08 15:25:15 <@mattdm:fedora.im> Justin W. Flory (he/him): I didn't put it in my budget request. _However_ there probably is a GNOME AdBoard meeting I should be at.
2023-11-08 15:25:45 <@mattdm:fedora.im> But even then I'll probably go to Vienna after :)
2023-11-08 15:25:48 <@jflory7:fedora.im> My light preference is also for Amsterdam due to proximity to Brussels by train, although I too am also fine with Vienna if it maximizes the trip value for others.
2023-11-08 15:26:33 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I will say, mattdm, Aoife Moloney, and I were casually checking hotel rates in both Vienna and Amsterdam, and it actually wasn't so bad in either city. Near the RH offices in each city which we would most likely use as a venue
2023-11-08 15:26:58 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I thought Vienna was going to be 💰️💰️💰️, but it wasn't as bad as I made it out to be in my head
2023-11-08 15:27:29 <@amoloney:fedora.im> can we do a vote?
2023-11-08 15:27:47 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Let's do it
2023-11-08 15:27:55 <@sumantrom:fedora.im> Vienna from my side
2023-11-08 15:28:00 <@mattdm:fedora.im> Last year when I visited the Vienna office, there was a new, small restaurant nearby which had an Iraqi and a Syrian cook and they were competing to show me which cuisine was better. It was amazing. In case that pushes anyone else over :)
2023-11-08 15:28:44 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I am +0 either
2023-11-08 15:28:48 <@amoloney:fedora.im> Ill add Vienna and Amsterdam as single line messages here, please ➕ the location you want, then post a comment of the results in the ticket and its done
2023-11-08 15:28:51 <@amoloney:fedora.im> Vienna
2023-11-08 15:28:53 <@amoloney:fedora.im> Amsterdam
2023-11-08 15:29:04 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Oh, _fancy_
2023-11-08 15:29:09 <@amoloney:fedora.im> oooh even better!
2023-11-08 15:29:19 <@mattdm:fedora.im> I don't know what meetbot will do with this :)
2023-11-08 15:29:22 <@amoloney:fedora.im> do mattdm 's one
2023-11-08 15:29:31 <@dcantrell:fedora.im> I don't know what you mean by please + the location?
2023-11-08 15:29:37 <@dcantrell:fedora.im> like just say the one I want?
2023-11-08 15:29:50 <@jflory7:fedora.im> We will find out!
2023-11-08 15:29:53 <@mattdm:fedora.im> Does your client show the poll?
2023-11-08 15:30:01 <@dcantrell:fedora.im> I do not see a poll
2023-11-08 15:30:07 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Oh, hmm
2023-11-08 15:30:09 <@dcantrell:fedora.im> I am using Thunderbird
2023-11-08 15:30:13 <@mattdm:fedora.im> Ugghhhh matrix flaw right there.
2023-11-08 15:30:38 <@dcantrell:fedora.im> yeah, so _whatever_ you guys are doing I can't see.  I am +1 for Vienna, so whatever you want to do with that count, go for it
2023-11-08 15:30:41 <@jflory7:fedora.im> David Cantrell: We can ACK whatever your preference is, presumably Vienna :)
2023-11-08 15:30:51 <@amoloney:fedora.im> add the 'plus' emoji sign David Cantrell , but mattdm has a waaay fancier poll so ignore me and use that one!
2023-11-08 15:30:58 <@jflory7:fedora.im> It looks Vienna is the clear strawpoll winner
2023-11-08 15:31:25 <@dcantrell:fedora.im> the client in Thunderbird does not appear to support the RIP graphics you guys are using
2023-11-08 15:31:53 <@amoloney:fedora.im> sorry my connection also dropped so a few of these msgs didnt come through
2023-11-08 15:31:57 <@mattdm:fedora.im> Need an Amiga, I think?
2023-11-08 15:32:19 <@amoloney:fedora.im> Were going to Vienna then! 
2023-11-08 15:32:22 <@dcantrell:fedora.im> no, just IRC
2023-11-08 15:32:38 <@jflory7:fedora.im> 🇦🇹
2023-11-08 15:33:08 <@amoloney:fedora.im> !info Following a straw-poll and discussion on what venue to hold the Fedora Council Hackfest 2024, we have decided it will be held in Vienna, Austria
2023-11-08 15:33:21 <@jflory7:fedora.im> OK then… I can go ahead and reach out to the Red Hat office about reserving space for us. I presume we are still thinking post-FOSDEM
2023-11-08 15:33:30 <@jflory7:fedora.im> There are budget things to figure out, but that won't be solved in today's meeting
2023-11-08 15:33:41 <@dcantrell:fedora.im> I thought we were planning on pre-FOSDEM
2023-11-08 15:33:51 <@dcantrell:fedora.im> bookwar wanted pre-FOSDEM if I remember correctly
2023-11-08 15:33:58 <@mattdm:fedora.im> I can do either.
2023-11-08 15:34:05 <@amoloney:fedora.im> one decision down, another appears
2023-11-08 15:34:13 <@jflory7:fedora.im> CentOS Connect is the Thu/Fri before FOSDEM
2023-11-08 15:34:15 <@dcantrell:fedora.im> given the exhaustion that comes with FOSDEM, I would prefer FOSDEM to be the tail end of a trip for me
2023-11-08 15:34:41 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> I feel compelled to note that pre-fosdem probably has a higher likelihood of actually happening, statistically, w.r.t. sickness and such
2023-11-08 15:34:48 <@jflory7:fedora.im> There is a chance that my team may also do a F2F in Raleigh a week before FOSDEM… not clear yet but it is a possibility I cannot rule out yet
2023-11-08 15:35:06 <@amoloney:fedora.im> thats a very *very* good point Neil Hanlon 
2023-11-08 15:35:07 <@dcantrell:fedora.im> for me I'm thinking (a) Brno time with my team, (b) head back to Vienna for Council, (c) head to Brussels for CentOS Connect followed by FOSDEM, (d) head home and sleep for a week
2023-11-08 15:35:18 <@jflory7:fedora.im> …and less lost luggage. Long story… 😅
2023-11-08 15:36:07 <@jflory7:fedora.im> So, if I _don't_ have the team F2F before FOSDEM, I would be fine with the week before FOSDEM
2023-11-08 15:36:48 <@jflory7:fedora.im> But it would cut into the time I could spend, unless we started working on the weekend
2023-11-08 15:37:05 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I would get to CentOS Connect in Brussels on Thu, 1 February
2023-11-08 15:37:11 <@amoloney:fedora.im> So if CentOS Connect & FOSDEM are on from Thursday 1st Feb - Sunday 4th Feb, do we have enough time in ~3 days to have a good council hackfest? Assuming we host it Monday 29th Jan - Wed 31st Jan
2023-11-08 15:37:19 <@jflory7:fedora.im> That leaves Monday/Tuesday in Vienna, and Wednesday would realistically be a travel day
2023-11-08 15:38:03 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I'm not so sure it is enough time actually. And if my team F2F doesn't happen the week before FOSDEM, it would be the week before this… that is a lot of travel for me
2023-11-08 15:38:08 <@mattdm:fedora.im> I think what we learned from the last one was that we needed One More Day
2023-11-08 15:38:15 <@mattdm:fedora.im> How many days _was_ that?
2023-11-08 15:38:26 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Four, Tuesday to Friday
2023-11-08 15:38:59 <@mattdm:fedora.im> one second there's a problem
2023-11-08 15:39:12 <@mattdm:fedora.im> not here, something at home brb
2023-11-08 15:39:28 <@jflory7:fedora.im> No problem
2023-11-08 15:39:44 <@dcantrell:fedora.im> no, there is a problem
2023-11-08 15:39:50 <@amoloney:fedora.im> Sumantro Mukherjee: Jona Azizaj any preference for pre or post FOSDEM?
2023-11-08 15:40:00 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> it's me. I'm the problem 
2023-11-08 15:40:17 <@bt0dotninja:fedora.im> 😁
2023-11-08 15:40:31 <@jonatoni:fedora.im> either way works for me
2023-11-08 15:41:07 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I lodge my preference as post-FOSDEM
2023-11-08 15:41:26 <@sumantrom:fedora.im> post FOSDEM works 
2023-11-08 15:41:34 <@sumantrom:fedora.im> I am fine with either
2023-11-08 15:41:39 <@dcantrell:fedora.im> in order to arrive at a decision, I am fine with pre or post
2023-11-08 15:41:41 <@sumantrom:fedora.im> it takes 12hrs by train 
2023-11-08 15:43:21 <@amoloney:fedora.im> I think post-DEM is the natural choice then
2023-11-08 15:43:23 <@mattdm:fedora.im> Garbage disposal under the sink caught fire. 
2023-11-08 15:43:29 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> oh shit
2023-11-08 15:44:03 <@dcantrell:fedora.im> 12 hours by train?  if we can find a train that goes 1100 km/h, we can get there in an hour
2023-11-08 15:44:32 <@amoloney:fedora.im> I think Sandro posted in a link to a good train connection <somewhere>
2023-11-08 15:44:38 <@amoloney:fedora.im> we digress
2023-11-08 15:44:39 <@mattdm:fedora.im> It's pretty dramatic here in our kitchen :) 
2023-11-08 15:44:48 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Worth taking a formal vote?
2023-11-08 15:44:54 <@mattdm:fedora.im> And the fridge is on the same circuit 
2023-11-08 15:45:04 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Uhh, that is an exciting Wednesday! Hope things are OK now.
2023-11-08 15:45:05 <@amoloney:fedora.im> sure, all in favour of Post-FOSDEM, 'ack'
2023-11-08 15:45:06 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> look at you with a literal garbage (disposal) fire !
2023-11-08 15:45:18 <@amoloney:fedora.im> ack
2023-11-08 15:45:36 <@jflory7:fedora.im> ACK (I suppose to packet drop 🙂)
2023-11-08 15:45:41 <@mattdm:fedora.im> I vote with the majority. Let's make sure bookwar can join too
2023-11-08 15:45:49 <@dcantrell:fedora.im> ack for post-fosdem
2023-11-08 15:46:17 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Yes, it is worth checking in with her too before locking something in
2023-11-08 15:47:05 <@amoloney:fedora.im> !action Verify that bookwar can attend Council Hackfest in Vienna post-FOSDEM before committing to any bookings
2023-11-08 15:48:10 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I have an open floor topic that is adjacent to this, but I don't want to go off track yet :) 
2023-11-08 15:48:12 <@amoloney:fedora.im> !agreed Vienna, approx 5th - 9th Feb 2024 will be the Fedora Council Hackfest 2024 venue and dates
2023-11-08 15:48:45 <@amoloney:fedora.im> With just over 10 mins left, do we want to cover another agenda topic? Or go straight to open floor?
2023-11-08 15:49:02 <@amoloney:fedora.im> One needs bookwar so Id rule that out of the discussion today
2023-11-08 15:49:08 <@sumantrom:fedora.im> 5-9th the whole week ? :)
2023-11-08 15:49:50 <@mattdm:fedora.im> Whole week seems like a lot but it will make each day less overwhelming 
2023-11-08 15:50:23 <@amoloney:fedora.im> Ive accounted for Monday 5th to be a travel day, Tues - Fri (6th - 9th) the 'working' days
2023-11-08 15:50:52 <@jflory7:fedora.im> LGTM
2023-11-08 15:50:53 <@amoloney:fedora.im> we might be able to use Friday 9th as a travel day too....but its best account for those days anyway at this point
2023-11-08 15:51:19 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I think I could fit my topic into 10 minutes
2023-11-08 15:51:52 <@amoloney:fedora.im> I have one I want to ask as well, which should only be 2/3 mins, can I go first and wrap it up please?
2023-11-08 15:51:58 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Yep!
2023-11-08 15:52:28 <@amoloney:fedora.im> !topic Tickets marked as 'Nest Meeting' - what will I do with those?
2023-11-08 15:52:52 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !link https://pagure.io/Fedora-Council/tickets/issues?status=Open&priority=2
2023-11-08 15:52:54 <@amoloney:fedora.im> I ask because this might seem self-explanatory, but it might not be (for me anywa)
2023-11-08 15:53:20 <@amoloney:fedora.im> theres a few tickets with that tag. Im going to add those to each agenda - is everyone ok with that?
2023-11-08 15:54:01 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Err, #434 and #435 feel very big for a meeting discussion -- I am not sure how scoped those topics are or what is next for them. Might be worth getting follow-ups from the assignee first
2023-11-08 15:54:20 <@jflory7:fedora.im> The other three look good for future meeting agendas
2023-11-08 15:54:28 <@amoloney:fedora.im> This is based on how FESCo run their meetings - if its tagged as Next Meeting, it gets added to the agenda for the ... Next Meeting
2023-11-08 15:54:38 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Oh, the IRC/Matrix one should be on that list but it is not
2023-11-08 15:55:00 <@mattdm:fedora.im> action amolony make our meeting labels and practices make sense :)
2023-11-08 15:55:09 <@amoloney:fedora.im> so theres an action then if this backlog is not in working condition, which Im happy to take to review and tidy 
2023-11-08 15:55:24 <@amoloney:fedora.im> I suppose thats my job... 😅
2023-11-08 15:55:49 <@amoloney:fedora.im> !action @amoloney to review council ticket backlog and refine tickets
2023-11-08 15:56:08 <@jflory7:fedora.im> It needs love and attention -- but we can also help guide you on these too
2023-11-08 15:56:22 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Where things are confusing, I mean
2023-11-08 15:56:27 <@amoloney:fedora.im> thank you I dont intend to go it alone...there will be many pings 😅
2023-11-08 15:56:45 <@amoloney:fedora.im> ok Im good with that, turning it to you Justin W. Flory (he/him) 
2023-11-08 15:56:50 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Thanks!
2023-11-08 15:56:52 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I will be quick
2023-11-08 15:57:07 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Mine is about a very curious situation we have on the Council… the curious case of bt0dotninja :)
2023-11-08 15:57:24 <@jflory7:fedora.im> So, bt0dotninja is in a weird state on the Fedora Council. He is half off-boarded and half on-boarded.
2023-11-08 15:57:25 <@bt0dotninja:fedora.im> That Is me 😅
2023-11-08 15:57:30 <@sumantrom:fedora.im> I just realized , I might not be there at Council HF :P 
2023-11-08 15:58:09 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I was chatting with Alberto and he wants to continue his engagement as the Mindshare rep. Formally, he is not a member of the `council` FAS group from when he was stepping back a couple years ago, but we never actually did a full off-boarding…
2023-11-08 15:58:15 <@jflory7:fedora.im> So he is still plugged into a lot of Council things already.
2023-11-08 15:58:34 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I wanted to open the discussion about formally bringing bt0dotninja back onto the Council and resolving the ambiguous state once and for all :)
2023-11-08 15:58:52 <@jflory7:fedora.im> This would also invite bt0dotninja as a member of the Council hackfest plans too, in February
2023-11-08 15:59:32 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Sumantro Mukherjee: Give us the details here! https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/fedora-council-tickets-ticket-469-fedora-council-hackfest-2024/94761
2023-11-08 15:59:33 <@mattdm:fedora.im> I am in favor -- I'm glad to have you back!
2023-11-08 15:59:38 <@sumantrom:fedora.im> my term seems to end this cycle
2023-11-08 16:00:14 <@bt0dotninja:fedora.im> 😁
2023-11-08 16:00:36 <@sumantrom:fedora.im> I might have to get through an election :) 
2023-11-08 16:01:03 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Sumantro Mukherjee: That is a good point – election season kicks off this week too
2023-11-08 16:01:13 <@jflory7:fedora.im> bt0dotninja: I will take an action to open a Council ticket on your behalf :)
2023-11-08 16:01:21 <@jflory7:fedora.im> But I wanted to give it the 📣 while we are all here
2023-11-08 16:01:24 <@jflory7:fedora.im> <eof>
2023-11-08 16:01:28 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Back to you, Aoife Moloney :)
2023-11-08 16:01:29 <@bt0dotninja:fedora.im> Thanks 
2023-11-08 16:01:34 <@amoloney:fedora.im> forgive my ignorance, is there currently no formal mindshare rep on the council? (I am all for bt0dotninja joining in any case, Im just curious)
2023-11-08 16:02:11 <@jflory7:fedora.im> It is a very curious case. It is like Schrödinger's cat, basically. Was there one or was there not one? Well… 🙂
2023-11-08 16:02:18 <@amoloney:fedora.im> hahaha
2023-11-08 16:02:39 <@amoloney:fedora.im> I think that concludes the meeting then
2023-11-08 16:02:54 <@amoloney:fedora.im> is it just the endmeeting command?
2023-11-08 16:02:59 <@jflory7:fedora.im> This one was feature-packed :)
2023-11-08 16:03:05 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Thanks for co-driving this one Aoife Moloney!
2023-11-08 16:03:08 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Yep!
2023-11-08 16:03:14 <@amoloney:fedora.im> !endmeeting