2024-03-13 14:00:33 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !startmeeting Fedora Council - 2024-03-13
2024-03-13 14:00:33 <@meetbot:fedora.im> Meeting started at 2024-03-13 14:00:33 UTC
2024-03-13 14:00:33 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting name is 'Fedora Council - 2024-03-13'
2024-03-13 14:00:38 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !meetingname council
2024-03-13 14:00:56 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !topic Hellos, welcomes, & greetings
2024-03-13 14:00:58 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !hi
2024-03-13 14:00:59 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Justin W. Flory (jflory7) - he / him / his
2024-03-13 14:01:06 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Who else is around today?
2024-03-13 14:01:10 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !group members council
2024-03-13 14:01:11 <@ffmancera:fedora.im> !hi
2024-03-13 14:01:12 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Members of council: Aoife Moloney, bt0dotninja, David Cantrell, FAS Fernando F. Mancera, Justin W. Flory, Jona Azizaj, Matthew Miller, Robert Wright, smeragoel, Sumantro Mukherjee, Akashdeep Dhar
2024-03-13 14:01:12 <@zodbot:fedora.im> FAS Fernando F. Mancera (ffmancera) - he / him / his
2024-03-13 14:01:19 <@dcantrell:fedora.im> !hi
2024-03-13 14:01:21 <@zodbot:fedora.im> David Cantrell (dcantrell) - he / him / his
2024-03-13 14:01:32 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Hello! 👋
2024-03-13 14:01:53 <@t0xic0der:fedora.im> !hello2
2024-03-13 14:01:53 <@amoloney:fedora.im> !HI
2024-03-13 14:01:54 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Akashdeep Dhar (t0xic0der) - he / him / his
2024-03-13 14:01:59 <@amoloney:fedora.im> !hi
2024-03-13 14:02:01 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Aoife Moloney (amoloney)
2024-03-13 14:02:30 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I see zodbot does not like excited hellos :D
2024-03-13 14:02:40 <@amoloney:fedora.im> No haha :D
2024-03-13 14:03:10 <@jflory7:fedora.im> We are six people, so we have quorum today.
2024-03-13 14:03:37 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Smera Goel, bt0dotninja, Robert Wright (he/him), Jona Azizaj (she/her): Friendly ping if you all are around :)
2024-03-13 14:03:52 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Aoife Moloney: Did you have an agenda in place for today's meet, or do we go about it ad-hoc?
2024-03-13 14:04:18 <@amoloney:fedora.im> no I have one done, I replied to the meeting schedule-er with it on discourse
2024-03-13 14:04:25 <@amoloney:fedora.im> 2 secs and Ill drop it here
2024-03-13 14:04:39 <@amoloney:fedora.im> https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/fedora-council-meeting-agenda-2024-03-13/107997/1
2024-03-13 14:04:41 <@mattdm:fedora.im> Here now!!!
2024-03-13 14:04:43 <@mattdm:fedora.im> Sorry about that.
2024-03-13 14:04:52 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Aha! I missed it. In that case, I will let you do the driving if you would like, or I can follow along with what you have planned Aoife Moloney? Either is fine for me :)
2024-03-13 14:05:55 <@amoloney:fedora.im> Sure, its mostly just confirming folks are engaged with the tasks needed post-hackfest to get our communications out so it should be quick enough
2024-03-13 14:06:30 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !info Present: ffmancera, dcantrell, Akashdeep Dhar, Aoife Moloney, Sumantro Mukherjee, mattdm, @jflory7:fedora.im
2024-03-13 14:06:45 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Aoife Moloney: Ack! Mind if we take a quick show of the floor for announcements and news before getting to the ticketed items?
2024-03-13 14:06:59 <@amoloney:fedora.im> go for it :)
2024-03-13 14:07:12 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !topic Team news and community announcements
2024-03-13 14:07:29 <@jflory7:fedora.im> This is a good opportunity for anyone to bring attention to things happening in the community :)
2024-03-13 14:07:32 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Anything exciting?
2024-03-13 14:07:39 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I believe the F40 Beta was delayed
2024-03-13 14:07:42 <@amoloney:fedora.im> Beta go/no-go is tomorrow 
2024-03-13 14:07:43 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Is that correct?
2024-03-13 14:07:46 <@amoloney:fedora.im> aw no
2024-03-13 14:07:58 <@amoloney:fedora.im> which one are you talking about?
2024-03-13 14:08:01 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !info F40 go/no-go meeting is scheduled tomorrow, Thursday 14 March.
2024-03-13 14:08:11 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I think the one that happened last week :)
2024-03-13 14:08:13 <@t0xic0der:fedora.im> Outreachy applicant phase is in full swing with over 150 different active contributors contributing to various projects!
2024-03-13 14:08:25 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !info Outreachy applicant phase is in full swing with over 150 different active contributors contributing to various projects!
2024-03-13 14:08:30 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Wow, is it really 150? 😱
2024-03-13 14:08:38 <@t0xic0der:fedora.im> More than that sir
2024-03-13 14:08:40 <@t0xic0der:fedora.im> ;P
2024-03-13 14:08:42 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I have counted ~40-45 for me and Joseph's project
2024-03-13 14:08:57 <@t0xic0der:fedora.im> We had nearly 60 at our end.
2024-03-13 14:09:05 <@t0xic0der:fedora.im> For the Webhooks project
2024-03-13 14:09:14 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I looked back at Fedora Happiness Packets for reference in 2019, and this is definitely way more intense than past rounds I remember :)
2024-03-13 14:09:24 <@amoloney:fedora.im> Beta missed the early target last week, thats correct. Were now targeting the current release date of 19th March & the go/no-go is tomorrow @ 1700 UTC in this channel
2024-03-13 14:10:08 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !info F40 Beta missed its target last week. Now targeting current release date of March 19th and go/no-go meeting is here in #meeting:fedoraproject.org at 17:00 UTC.
2024-03-13 14:10:37 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !info F40 Beta missed its target last week. Now targeting current release date of March 19th and go/no-go meeting is here on 14 March in #meeting:fedoraproject.org at 17:00 UTC.
2024-03-13 14:10:51 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Any other news and/or shout-outs?
2024-03-13 14:10:56 <@dcantrell:fedora.im> yesterday was my birthday
2024-03-13 14:11:01 <@dcantrell:fedora.im> I turned 0x2D
2024-03-13 14:11:04 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Ayyyyy!
2024-03-13 14:11:06 <@jflory7:fedora.im> 🎉
2024-03-13 14:11:10 <@amoloney:fedora.im> Happy Birthday!! :)
2024-03-13 14:11:15 <@t0xic0der:fedora.im> dcantrell: Happy belated birthday sir 🎉 
2024-03-13 14:11:16 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Happy belated birthday dcantrell! 🎆
2024-03-13 14:11:19 <@dcantrell:fedora.im> thank you tahnk you
2024-03-13 14:11:25 <@ffmancera:fedora.im> Yay! Happy birthday!!

2024-03-13 14:11:30 <@sumantrom:fedora.im> Happy Birthday dcantrell: 
2024-03-13 14:12:01 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !info dcantrell's birthday was yesterday, woot!
2024-03-13 14:12:04 <@jflory7:fedora.im> :)
2024-03-13 14:12:24 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Last call for team news and community announcements?
2024-03-13 14:12:30 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Going once…
2024-03-13 14:12:46 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Going twice…
2024-03-13 14:12:50 <@amoloney:fedora.im> yes typinh 
2024-03-13 14:12:54 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Ack!
2024-03-13 14:12:56 <@jflory7:fedora.im> ⏸️
2024-03-13 14:14:35 <@amoloney:fedora.im> Also, FESCo accepted the request to assist CPE's Product Owner jednorozec in prioritising work requests tagged as infrastructure-projects in the hopes that there will be a curated list for the CPE team, and other folks in the community, to select work from. The discussion on these work requests will be in discussions.fpo and tagged under #fedora-infrastructure-projects
2024-03-13 14:14:52 <@amoloney:fedora.im> the *pressure* of typing when people are waiting!!! :D
2024-03-13 14:15:10 <@t0xic0der:fedora.im> Aoife Moloney: You're doing just fine :)
2024-03-13 14:15:16 <@rwright:fedora.im> !hi 
2024-03-13 14:15:18 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Robert Wright (rwright) - he / him / his
2024-03-13 14:15:30 <@rwright:fedora.im> Sorry late today! :)
2024-03-13 14:15:33 <@mattdm:fedora.im> Should we do something to promote this more heavily?
2024-03-13 14:15:42 <@mattdm:fedora.im> Or, I guess your plan to make this more visible on Discourse should help!
2024-03-13 14:15:43 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Back in the old days, we used to have IRC lingo when people would type `!` to indicate they had something to add, and `?` when they had a question. Might be helpful courtesy to bring back :)
2024-03-13 14:15:48 <@amoloney:fedora.im> CPE will write a blog post for it
2024-03-13 14:16:04 <@amoloney:fedora.im> they have just been waiting on me(mostly) to bootstrap the discourse piece
2024-03-13 14:16:13 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !info Also, FESCo accepted the request to assist CPE's Product Owner jednorozec in prioritising work requests tagged as infrastructure-projects in the hopes that there will be a curated list for the CPE team, and other folks in the community, to select work from. The discussion on these work requests will be in discussions.fpo and tagged under #fedora-infrastructure-projects.
2024-03-13 14:16:29 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Hi Robert Wright (he/him)! 👋
2024-03-13 14:16:30 <@amoloney:fedora.im> thats *almost* done, just need to make it a sub-category of Project Discussions in discourse
2024-03-13 14:16:31 <@mattdm:fedora.im> Or, ask Element to add a "hands raised" queue feature! 
2024-03-13 14:16:45 <@bt0dotninja:fedora.im> Hi
2024-03-13 14:16:52 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !info Present: +Robert Wright (he/him) +bt0dotninja 
2024-03-13 14:16:56 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Hey bt0dotninja! 👋
2024-03-13 14:17:18 <@bt0dotninja:fedora.im> 😁
2024-03-13 14:17:36 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I suspect the use case for text meetings is uniquely Fedora, but that is a hunch :)
2024-03-13 14:17:52 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Well, maybe Ubuntu now too, but I don't know how they organize their meetings.
2024-03-13 14:18:20 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Well, the CPE Infrastructure Projects update is an exciting one 🙌
2024-03-13 14:18:27 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Looking forward to seeing where that one goes next.
2024-03-13 14:18:38 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Thanks for helping drive that to completion from the Council side Aoife Moloney 
2024-03-13 14:18:40 <@t0xic0der:fedora.im> Justin W. Flory (he/him): Most definitely!
2024-03-13 14:18:51 <@t0xic0der:fedora.im> Aoife Moloney++
2024-03-13 14:18:53 <@zodbot:fedora.im> t0xic0der has already given cookies to amoloney during the F39 timeframe
2024-03-13 14:18:57 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Aoife Moloney++
2024-03-13 14:18:59 <@zodbot:fedora.im> jflory7 has already given cookies to amoloney during the F39 timeframe
2024-03-13 14:19:04 <@jflory7:fedora.im> So, with that, I think the announcements are covered?
2024-03-13 14:19:10 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Team news and community announcements, going once…
2024-03-13 14:19:20 <@sumantrom:fedora.im> Aoife Moloney++
2024-03-13 14:19:21 <@zodbot:fedora.im> sumantrom gave a cookie to amoloney. They now have 26 cookies, 5 of which were obtained in the Fedora 39 release cycle
2024-03-13 14:19:25 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Going twice…
2024-03-13 14:19:40 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Going thrice…
2024-03-13 14:19:55 <@jflory7:fedora.im> 🔨
2024-03-13 14:20:00 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Forward and onwards!
2024-03-13 14:20:10 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !topic Review of tickets tagged with ‘Next Meeting’ 
2024-03-13 14:20:28 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !info #484 - Fedora Hackfest Outputs Write up
2024-03-13 14:20:32 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !info #485 - Update all docs pages with current community initiative information
2024-03-13 14:20:35 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !info #483 - [2024 Hackfest] Complete the Strategy 2028 logic model
2024-03-13 14:20:38 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !info #482 - Devising a community schedule to compliment the release schedule
2024-03-13 14:20:43 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Let's go to the first one.
2024-03-13 14:20:50 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !topic #484 - Fedora Hackfest Outputs Write up
2024-03-13 14:20:55 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !link https://pagure.io/Fedora-Council/tickets/issue/484
2024-03-13 14:21:00 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Aoife Moloney: Want to do some initial steering here?
2024-03-13 14:22:15 <@tosin_doreen:matrix.org> Happy birthday dcantrell 🥳🥳
2024-03-13 14:22:17 <@amoloney:fedora.im> So I created this yesterday as I had an action from our last meeting to split the hackfest topics up so council members can choose a topic, or few to do a summary on. This ticket is it :) theres a google doc attached, let me know if anyone needs access, but my idea is that if we contribute to the google doc we can publish it as a blog by the end of march
2024-03-13 14:22:34 <@amoloney:fedora.im> does this make sense to people to do?
2024-03-13 14:22:48 <@amoloney:fedora.im> is there any questions around intent or format or, anything really?
2024-03-13 14:22:58 <@t0xic0der:fedora.im> Does for me.
2024-03-13 14:23:08 <@sumantrom:fedora.im> Fine with me
2024-03-13 14:23:11 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !link https://docs.google.com/document/d/18h6nna1vyFLM_TAvi-BoeTNIllEqj0yofZnF4REpfxE/edit?usp=sharing
2024-03-13 14:23:36 <@t0xic0der:fedora.im> I do have a question with who is going to author the post. Is it going to be the FOA? I ask so to ensure that we get the voice right when we are filling in the doc.
2024-03-13 14:23:40 <@amoloney:fedora.im> I know its not ideal having a google doc in place, but its just for the initial wordsmithing of the summaries
2024-03-13 14:24:04 <@amoloney:fedora.im> So the git forge announcement will be standalone - and that will be from the FPL
2024-03-13 14:24:20 <@jflory7:fedora.im> As I prefer to say, as long as it does not stay in a Google Doc forever. Google will get their data but better if it is the search engine than Google Drive :)
2024-03-13 14:24:31 <@amoloney:fedora.im> we could do a mini series .... 
2024-03-13 14:24:46 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Might make it easier to digest?
2024-03-13 14:25:00 <@t0xic0der:fedora.im> +1 to mini series format
2024-03-13 14:25:13 <@amoloney:fedora.im> Its also imo fairer
2024-03-13 14:25:19 <@amoloney:fedora.im> lets do that then!
2024-03-13 14:25:36 <@ffmancera:fedora.im> +1
2024-03-13 14:25:40 <@mattdm:fedora.im> yeah, aggreed
2024-03-13 14:25:48 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !info Q: Who will author the post(s)? A: The git forge announcement will be standalone - and that will be from the FPL mattdm.
2024-03-13 14:26:10 <@amoloney:fedora.im> also to note - contribution is welcome for the git forge piece
2024-03-13 14:26:16 <@sumantrom:fedora.im> Do we have a timeline for these posts ??
2024-03-13 14:26:18 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !agreed Mini-series format for the Council Hackfest updates to make it easier to spread the load and to break up our messages into focused points.
2024-03-13 14:26:21 <@amoloney:fedora.im> its in a WIP state  right now
2024-03-13 14:27:02 <@amoloney:fedora.im> Ideally i had been thinking end of March, but if were doing a series they need to be broken up. Is weekly too long? It would run for 6+ weeks
2024-03-13 14:27:26 <@amoloney:fedora.im> I think, my counting could be wrong 🤪
2024-03-13 14:27:42 <@ffmancera:fedora.im> Maybe bi-weekly>
2024-03-13 14:27:46 <@ffmancera:fedora.im> Maybe bi-weekly?
2024-03-13 14:27:53 <@amoloney:fedora.im> as in two a week?
2024-03-13 14:27:59 <@ffmancera:fedora.im> Yep
2024-03-13 14:28:04 <@bt0dotninja:fedora.im> Yep
2024-03-13 14:28:06 <@amoloney:fedora.im> +1
2024-03-13 14:28:13 <@jflory7:fedora.im> +1
2024-03-13 14:28:22 <@bt0dotninja:fedora.im> +1
2024-03-13 14:28:48 <@jflory7:fedora.im> You are counting six or seven posts in total?
2024-03-13 14:28:48 <@mattdm:fedora.im> oh, the other biweekly :)
2024-03-13 14:29:01 <@dcantrell:fedora.im> yes, not fortnightly
2024-03-13 14:29:11 <@jflory7:fedora.im> This is why I have adopted British English with fortnightly :D
2024-03-13 14:29:15 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Exactly!
2024-03-13 14:29:35 <@amoloney:fedora.im> I am technically not counting at all. The page is in the depths of the tabs open so Im relying on memory - flawed at best! 😅
2024-03-13 14:29:36 <@ffmancera:fedora.im> According to a dictionary I just checked, semiweekly is more correct x)
2024-03-13 14:29:41 <@mattdm:fedora.im> Anyway, two a week seems good. Monday and Wednesday.
2024-03-13 14:29:42 <@dcantrell:fedora.im> I think the British would take issue with calling it "British English".  They tend to call it English.  :)
2024-03-13 14:29:56 <@mattdm:fedora.im> Unfortunately, "semiweekly" also means "weekly, but sometimes"
2024-03-13 14:30:13 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Let's recount them to make sure we are on the same page
2024-03-13 14:30:29 <@dcantrell:fedora.im> do we count starting from 0 or 1?  :)
2024-03-13 14:30:36 <@amoloney:fedora.im> ok as a quick recount from the ticket, theres 8 
2024-03-13 14:30:45 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !info Proposed mini-series articles: Git Forge Evaluation Update, Bugzilla and Fedora, Community Initiatives, Moving to Matrix & Sunsetting IRC, Fedora Strategy, Elections
2024-03-13 14:30:46 <@amoloney:fedora.im> that is more correct than the doc
2024-03-13 14:31:06 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I see the "More Energy More Passion More Footwork" but probably not a post, more for us
2024-03-13 14:31:11 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Am I wrong?
2024-03-13 14:31:29 <@amoloney:fedora.im> yep 🤣
2024-03-13 14:31:36 <@amoloney:fedora.im> sorry youre not wrong
2024-03-13 14:31:36 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Hahah cool.
2024-03-13 14:31:41 <@jflory7:fedora.im> So, six articles then
2024-03-13 14:32:02 <@amoloney:fedora.im> no, the doc doesnt inc FPCA decision
2024-03-13 14:32:11 <@mattdm:fedora.im> Fedora Strategy might well be two.
2024-03-13 14:32:17 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !agreed A biweekly cadence (ahem, two posts each week) for a six-week period.
2024-03-13 14:32:39 <@mattdm:fedora.im> Ansible does it! Plus it could be useful in any big conversation
2024-03-13 14:32:55 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Could be, but let's really focus this first one as a Council Hackfest update. I think it would be good to talk about how we discussed and planned it at the Hackfest, and then we keep following with more messaging after. Does that make sense?
2024-03-13 14:32:56 <@ffmancera:fedora.im> three week period (?)
2024-03-13 14:33:03 <@jflory7:fedora.im> D'oh
2024-03-13 14:33:05 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !undo
2024-03-13 14:33:12 <@ffmancera:fedora.im> 3 weeks == 6 posts
2024-03-13 14:33:14 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I don't know if we have that command again :P
2024-03-13 14:33:21 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Coffee has not yet reached brain
2024-03-13 14:33:27 <@mattdm:fedora.im> And of course it would be useful with video meetings too on Element -- it would just be super-cool to not _limit_ it to that
2024-03-13 14:33:34 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !agreed REVISED: A biweekly cadence (ahem, two posts each week) for a three-week period.
2024-03-13 14:33:40 <@amoloney:fedora.im> We can discuss this more, but I would be inclined to agree. My instinct is to have this as its own announcement, but also have it feature as part of the hackfest series in a more condensed way, and link to the larger announcement. Similar approach to the gitforge one
2024-03-13 14:33:46 <@mattdm:fedora.im> Yes, totally.
2024-03-13 14:34:09 <@jflory7:fedora.im> In general, I hope we have lots more posts coming about the Strategy :)
2024-03-13 14:34:29 <@mattdm:fedora.im> In fact, in that case, can I ask _someone else_ to write the "hackfest summary" part of it, while I write the other part to come out around the same time?
2024-03-13 14:34:54 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I could probably take that action
2024-03-13 14:35:04 <@amoloney:fedora.im> I would get the main one out first, but +1 to that idea
2024-03-13 14:35:08 <@jflory7:fedora.im> It would be good if we could do some "divide and conquer" real quick on some of these post drafts
2024-03-13 14:35:19 <@jflory7:fedora.im> So we know who is owning which pieces
2024-03-13 14:36:04 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Which, you know… valid.
2024-03-13 14:36:31 <@jflory7:fedora.im> So since there are a few ➕ signs here, let's divvy it up
2024-03-13 14:36:45 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I think Aoife is organizing the Google Doc right now into ordered segments
2024-03-13 14:37:03 <@jflory7:fedora.im> The git forge update is a mattdm and Aoife Moloney joint collaboration? Or single-owned?
2024-03-13 14:37:12 <@jflory7:fedora.im> A Fedora Strategy Update post is owned by mattdm?
2024-03-13 14:37:21 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I am owning the Fedora Strategy Hackfest Update post
2024-03-13 14:37:28 <@amoloney:fedora.im> Yes I updated the doc to have parity with the council ticket
2024-03-13 14:37:35 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I guess I am probably owning the IRC => Matrix post too
2024-03-13 14:37:54 <@jflory7:fedora.im> ffmancera, Smera Goel: Could both of you jointly work on a post about the Mentored Projects Initiative?
2024-03-13 14:38:16 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Robert Wright (he/him): And you for the CommOps Initiative? Of course I can also provide input to you on that one
2024-03-13 14:38:25 <@rwright:fedora.im> Yup
2024-03-13 14:38:59 <@jflory7:fedora.im> On the table still: Bugzilla & Fedora, Elections, FPCA Decision?
2024-03-13 14:39:01 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Anything else?
2024-03-13 14:39:11 <@amoloney:fedora.im> I will take elections
2024-03-13 14:39:12 <@ffmancera:fedora.im> +1
2024-03-13 14:39:16 <@t0xic0der:fedora.im> I can take the Bugzilla
2024-03-13 14:39:46 <@rwright:fedora.im> I can do FPCA
2024-03-13 14:39:48 <@t0xic0der:fedora.im> It is very supplementary to the Git forge one so I am going to hold off until that is complete
2024-03-13 14:39:56 <@jflory7:fedora.im> That pretty much divvies up the lot.
2024-03-13 14:40:17 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Although I think FPCA could technically be a last one, or a late follow-up… it is important too but does not necessarily have to fit into the Council cadence
2024-03-13 14:40:28 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I think the FPCA one is more useful with a policy draft
2024-03-13 14:40:36 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Otherwise I think it will just confuse people
2024-03-13 14:40:40 <@amoloney:fedora.im> agreed
2024-03-13 14:40:44 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Until we have a policy that clearly replaces the FPCA
2024-03-13 14:40:49 <@rwright:fedora.im> OK
2024-03-13 14:41:04 <@jflory7:fedora.im> So, if this break-up sounds good, I can work on actioning this out.
2024-03-13 14:41:18 <@mattdm:fedora.im> yes. who are we waiting for for the policy draft? is it richard?
2024-03-13 14:41:20 <@jflory7:fedora.im> dcantrell: Could I get some authoring support together with you on the Matrix => IRC post?
2024-03-13 14:41:37 <@dcantrell:fedora.im> yeah, I was going to comment on both that one and the bugzilla one
2024-03-13 14:41:45 <@jflory7:fedora.im> mattdm: Unless there are things we want to flag to Legal for consideration, I guess it is on Richard to help us draft a policy there.
2024-03-13 14:41:50 <@dcantrell:fedora.im> in the google doc unless it needs to be somewhere else
2024-03-13 14:42:02 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Awesome. I will tag you on both of those.
2024-03-13 14:42:12 <@jflory7:fedora.im> OK, let's write some action items real quick, and then consider timeline?
2024-03-13 14:42:35 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !info Dropping FPCA Decision as a Council Hackfest blog post, but acknowledging we need a policy draft first to drive more conversation there.
2024-03-13 14:42:51 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !halp Richard Fontana (ref) to help us come up with a policy that covers the need for the FPCA.
2024-03-13 14:43:31 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !agreed Articles to draft and publish: Fedora Strategy Update, Git Forge Evaluation Update, Bugzilla and Fedora, Community Initiatives (Mentored Projects, CommOps 2.0), Moving to Matrix & Sunsetting IRC, Elections
2024-03-13 14:43:51 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !action @mattdm Draft "Fedora Strategy Update" for Community Blog
2024-03-13 14:44:10 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !action @amoloney @mattdm Draft "Git Forge Evaluation Update" for Community Blog
2024-03-13 14:44:27 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !action @t0xic0der @dcantrell Draft "Bugzilla and Fedora" for Community Blog
2024-03-13 14:44:48 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !action @ffmancera @smeragoel Draft "Community Initiative Update - Mentored Projects" for Community Blog
2024-03-13 14:44:55 <@mattdm:fedora.im> I think we should action someone to talk to richard. it can be me. :)
2024-03-13 14:45:04 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !action @rwright Draft "Community Initiative Update - CommOps 2.0" for Community Blog
2024-03-13 14:45:15 <@sumantrom:fedora.im> Reminder and maybe just a bit of OT,  a lot of my test day announcements will be going into community blog and Fedora magazine as well. Let's please sync times. :) 
2024-03-13 14:45:28 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !action @jflory7 @dcantrell Draft "Moving to Matrix & Sunsetting IRC" for Community Blog
2024-03-13 14:45:29 <@amoloney:fedora.im> ack
2024-03-13 14:45:43 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !action @amoloney Draft "Elections update" for Community Blog
2024-03-13 14:45:48 <@jflory7:fedora.im> That's all of them
2024-03-13 14:46:00 <@jflory7:fedora.im> For the timeline, I am thinking the three weeks in mid-April for when we run this
2024-03-13 14:46:08 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Starting the week of 8 April
2024-03-13 14:46:18 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Ending on Friday, 26 April
2024-03-13 14:46:21 <@mattdm:fedora.im> !action @mattdm Talk to Richard about replacement policy for FPCA
2024-03-13 14:46:35 <@jflory7:fedora.im> This gives us the month of March to get our drafts in order and build a cadence
2024-03-13 14:46:38 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Seem fair?
2024-03-13 14:46:53 <@zodbot:fedora.im> jflory7 gave a cookie to mattdm. They now have 156 cookies, 2 of which were obtained in the Fedora 39 release cycle
2024-03-13 14:46:59 <@mattdm:fedora.im> Yes
2024-03-13 14:47:02 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Wow, I really didn't give one yet? :)
2024-03-13 14:47:06 <@t0xic0der:fedora.im> Yes
2024-03-13 14:47:13 <@t0xic0der:fedora.im> mattdm++ ;P
2024-03-13 14:47:15 <@zodbot:fedora.im> t0xic0der gave a cookie to mattdm. They now have 157 cookies, 3 of which were obtained in the Fedora 39 release cycle
2024-03-13 14:47:50 <@mattdm:fedora.im> We can use https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/c/workflows/council-workspace/81 to organize drafts, if people want. That was the idea when we created that last year. But... we haven't really used it.
2024-03-13 14:48:24 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I'd prefer to keep things in the existing Google Doc if it is hidden/internal to Council either way
2024-03-13 14:48:49 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I like my commenting/suggestions feature 😅
2024-03-13 14:49:00 <@jflory7:fedora.im> OK, any objections to that schedule though?
2024-03-13 14:49:02 <@mattdm:fedora.im> that's fine with me
2024-03-13 14:49:11 <@t0xic0der:fedora.im> None from my end
2024-03-13 14:49:13 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Realistically we are talking April 8th - 26th
2024-03-13 14:49:30 <@mattdm:fedora.im> Aoife Moloney: When's the F40 release in all of this?
2024-03-13 14:49:30 <@amoloney:fedora.im> not really, but we will have F40 around that time 
2024-03-13 14:49:42 <@mattdm:fedora.im> We should skip that week, probably
2024-03-13 14:49:42 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I think we can focus on getting first drafts by the next Council meeting on 27 March, then piece together what we have to start scheduling out content
2024-03-13 14:49:56 <@amoloney:fedora.im> ha is a lot of testing, go/no-gos and atm its targeting 16th April
2024-03-13 14:50:04 <@jflory7:fedora.im> bt0dotninja: Oh, you should also be included on the CommOps 2.0 article draft with me and Robert :)
2024-03-13 14:50:26 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Hopefully we are all scheduled in advance of the craziness, unless you mean to say it is a news-heavy week
2024-03-13 14:50:35 <@jflory7:fedora.im> But I think the Beta could be good timing because people will be looking for news and updates
2024-03-13 14:50:41 <@amoloney:fedora.im> it will be a busy few weeks communications-wise, but I think its as good a time as any
2024-03-13 14:50:43 <@jflory7:fedora.im> So it might be a boon to visibility on our updates around that time
2024-03-13 14:50:54 <@jflory7:fedora.im> (I could also be wrong)
2024-03-13 14:51:39 <@jflory7:fedora.im> OK, we have ten minutes left and there were three other topics. I am going to close this up and then delegate how we spend those last ten minutes to Aoife Moloney :)
2024-03-13 14:52:27 <@bt0dotninja:fedora.im> Yesh
2024-03-13 14:52:37 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !agreed Tentatively aiming for the weeks of April 8th - 26th to run our Council Hackfest mini-series posts. Authors should come with a first go or full draft of their content by the Council meeting on 27 March. We will build out scheduling for the posts based on what is furthest along and urgency of topic.
2024-03-13 14:52:59 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !action @bt0dotninja Also support the Community Initiative Update CommOps 2.0 article :)
2024-03-13 14:53:06 <@jflory7:fedora.im> <eof>
2024-03-13 14:53:21 <@jflory7:fedora.im> What next Aoife Moloney? Any other urgent ticket topics or should we move to open floor with our remaining time?
2024-03-13 14:53:29 <@amoloney:fedora.im> Im not sure we will get through much more :/ Well one ticket is a task - we need to update docs pages to reference the community initiatives and I *think* Robert Wright (he/him) said he could work on this, certainly from the commops side - but was waiting on a ticket. I could be mistaken, I wasnt very attentive to our last meeting so apoloigies
2024-03-13 14:54:13 <@jflory7:fedora.im> We could ask the Initiative leads to take that back as a topic to their ongoing Initiative work
2024-03-13 14:54:28 <@rwright:fedora.im> Yep, can do  I can take that action. 
2024-03-13 14:54:35 <@rwright:fedora.im> I’ll also get a ticket raised so we can track it
2024-03-13 14:54:59 <@amoloney:fedora.im> theres this one open, but feel free to close and reopen a better one https://pagure.io/Fedora-Council/tickets/issue/485
2024-03-13 14:55:00 <@jflory7:fedora.im> OK super quick!
2024-03-13 14:55:04 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !topic #485 - Update all docs pages with current community initiative information
2024-03-13 14:55:10 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !link https://pagure.io/Fedora-Council/tickets/issue/485
2024-03-13 14:55:41 <@jflory7:fedora.im> ffmancera: I will volunteer you and Smera Goel to also help come up with some docs on the Council docs for the Initiative. Probably copy-pasting what has already been written somewhere else :)
2024-03-13 14:56:03 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !action @rwright Add Fedora Council docs as an action item to the next CommOps Initiative Leads meeting
2024-03-13 14:56:22 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !action @ffmancera @smeragoel Add Fedora Council docs as an action item to the next Mentored Projects Initiative Leads meeting
2024-03-13 14:56:29 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I think that covers it!
2024-03-13 14:56:50 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Anything else there?
2024-03-13 14:56:51 <@mattdm:fedora.im> Whew!
2024-03-13 14:56:58 <@ffmancera:fedora.im> Yes!
2024-03-13 14:57:03 <@ffmancera:fedora.im> Totally fine!

2024-03-13 14:57:28 <@ffmancera:fedora.im> Also, I am now a fan of the expression "vonlunteer you"
2024-03-13 14:57:48 <@jflory7:fedora.im> AKA "volun-telling" 😅
2024-03-13 14:57:53 <@mattdm:fedora.im> Gotta go to an AI-related meeting :) thank you Justin and Aoife for running, and everyone else for your time!
2024-03-13 14:57:55 <@jflory7:fedora.im> But we try not to do that _too_ much :)
2024-03-13 14:57:59 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !topic Open floor
2024-03-13 14:58:00 <@mattdm:fedora.im> jflory++
2024-03-13 14:58:01 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Sorry, but Fedora Accounts user 'jflory' does not exist
2024-03-13 14:58:12 <@mattdm:fedora.im> ughhh :)
2024-03-13 14:58:17 <@jflory7:fedora.im> mattdm: Sounds good, thanks for being here!
2024-03-13 14:58:25 <@jflory7:fedora.im> That pesky 7 😀
2024-03-13 14:58:35 <@mattdm:fedora.im> jflory7++
2024-03-13 14:58:37 <@zodbot:fedora.im> mattdm gave a cookie to jflory7. They now have 340 cookies, 16 of which were obtained in the Fedora 39 release cycle
2024-03-13 14:58:51 <@mattdm:fedora.im> amoloney++
2024-03-13 14:58:52 <@zodbot:fedora.im> mattdm gave a cookie to amoloney. They now have 27 cookies, 6 of which were obtained in the Fedora 39 release cycle
2024-03-13 14:59:01 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Nom nom nom 😋
2024-03-13 14:59:06 <@mattdm:fedora.im> justin, you have a lot of total cookies!
2024-03-13 14:59:19 <@jflory7:fedora.im> My F2x days 😅
2024-03-13 14:59:26 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Heheh
2024-03-13 14:59:28 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Anyways!
2024-03-13 14:59:33 <@jflory7:fedora.im> We are pretty much right at time…
2024-03-13 14:59:43 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I think any other business can be redirected to #council:fedoraproject.org.
2024-03-13 14:59:53 <@amoloney:fedora.im> +1
2024-03-13 14:59:53 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Thanks Aoife Moloney for the agenda prep and planning, and sorry we did not cover it all!
2024-03-13 14:59:59 <@jflory7:fedora.im> But I think we covered a lot of business today!
2024-03-13 15:00:03 <@amoloney:fedora.im> It was an ambitious agenda :)
2024-03-13 15:00:08 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Thanks everyone for engaging and being active here during the meeting!
2024-03-13 15:00:17 <@jflory7:fedora.im> We will see you next time, and around in the Fedora-verse…
2024-03-13 15:00:17 <@amoloney:fedora.im> thanks for running Justin W. Flory (he/him) !
2024-03-13 15:00:20 <@jflory7:fedora.im> 🦸
2024-03-13 15:00:24 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !endmeeting