2025-02-04 08:55:56 <@amoloney:fedora.im> !startmeeting Fedora Council F2F/Hackfest 2025
2025-02-04 08:55:57 <@meetbot:fedora.im> Meeting started at 2025-02-04 08:55:56 UTC
2025-02-04 08:55:57 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting name is 'Fedora Council F2F/Hackfest 2025'
2025-02-04 08:56:57 <@amoloney:fedora.im> !info The Fedora Council is meeting this week in person to work on topics outlined in the wiki https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Council/2025_Hackfest
2025-02-04 08:57:39 <@amoloney:fedora.im> This channel will be used to capture topics, proposed and agreed statements, and a more detailed write up will follow on the topics covered
2025-02-04 08:57:56 <@amoloney:fedora.im> You have been warned ;)
2025-02-04 08:58:06 <@amoloney:fedora.im> !topic How the Council works
2025-02-04 08:59:03 <@amoloney:fedora.im> !info The council are discussing how we are working currently, reflecting on ways we are working well for the project, and ways that we should and need to be better for the project
2025-02-04 09:22:38 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !meetingname council
2025-02-04 09:22:39 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting Name is now council
2025-02-04 09:22:50 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Nice idea to use this channel for the meeting minutes 😃
2025-02-04 11:04:09 <@amoloney:fedora.im> !agreed The Council will redefine the Elected Representative role to explicitly state that their responsibility of being a voice of the community is a sufficient contribution to their work on the council. They are also welcome to take part in other goals of the project, but being the community voice will be recognised as their main contribution.
2025-02-04 11:06:55 <@amoloney:fedora.im> !agreed The council recognizes that we need a platform to engage in long-form conversation, and will commit to using discussion.fedoraproject.org going forward
2025-02-04 12:18:25 <@amoloney:fedora.im> !agreed The council will provide a monthly summary, along with a summary from FESCo, Mindshare and the DEI committees in the form of a monthly newsletter to help build awareness of what each group is working on/has worked on
2025-02-04 12:22:50 <@amoloney:fedora.im> !proposal: The council will propose to FESCo and Mindshare to have a post-release retrospective to help each group understand the perspective of each group on how the release went, the challenges they faced, and try to find ways we can help each other to improve those experiences
2025-02-04 12:26:13 <@rwright:fedora.im> (!idea or !action will get it added to the log)
2025-02-04 12:26:38 <@amoloney:fedora.im> thank you :)
2025-02-04 12:26:48 <@amoloney:fedora.im> !idea The council will propose to FESCo and Mindshare to have a post-release retrospective to help each group understand the perspective of each group on how the release went, the challenges they faced, and try to find ways we can help each other to improve those experiences
2025-02-04 12:31:35 <@discussion2chatbot:fedora.im> Tickets to Discussion Bridge (@t2dbot) posted in Fedora-Council/tickets ticket #524: Onboarding and Retention - https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/fedora-council-tickets-ticket-524-onboarding-and-retention/144039/1
2025-02-04 12:36:55 <@amoloney:fedora.im> !info The council are breaking for lunch now. We will return at 14:45 local time (or thereabouts!). We will be swapping our agenda topics in the afternoon and will discuss the mindshare committee refocus topic at 14:45 - 15:45, and discuss the DEI Event Policy at 15:45 - 16:45 instead.
2025-02-04 12:54:09 <@jflory7:fedora.im> 
2025-02-04 12:54:09 <@jflory7:fedora.im> This does make us less of a "doing" body. I think that is okay. We need to be intentional about that though.
2025-02-04 12:54:09 <@jflory7:fedora.im> +1
2025-02-04 12:54:41 <@jflory7:fedora.im> We might need someone to own this, at least to start.
2025-02-04 12:55:41 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I am curious about the context of this conversation. We have gone down this road before with the status reports that Ben tried to wrangle before. It doesn't mean we should not try again. But we tried it before and it was hard. We were not successful, but maybe we did not make it easy to contribute.
2025-02-04 12:55:52 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I think that is a great idea.
2025-02-04 14:02:17 <@amoloney:fedora.im> This is being owned by everyone on the council to choose to use discussion.fedoraproject.org when opening a conversation topic for the council
2025-02-04 14:04:24 <@amoloney:fedora.im> This we have owners for. dcantrell has offered to write the report on behalf of FESCo, Sumantro Mukherjee is doing this on behalf of Mindshare, Jona Azizaj (she/her) is taking DEI and I will do this for council, and I have taken an action to work with the magazine team to ask them to help me set up a nice template to use for our collective content :)
2025-02-04 14:05:24 <@amoloney:fedora.im> !info Due to timing issues, we will not be able to discuss DEI Event Policy today. This topic will be moved to Thursday 6th and the wiki will be updated to reflect this schedule change
2025-02-04 14:05:37 <@amoloney:fedora.im> !topic Mindshare Committee Refocus
2025-02-04 14:06:10 <@amoloney:fedora.im> !info the council will now discuss the proposed changes to mindshare committee with the mindshare rep, Sumantro Mukherjee 
2025-02-04 14:07:12 <@amoloney:fedora.im> !link https://gitlab.com/fedora/mindshare/home/-/issues/69
2025-02-04 14:16:33 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I will be frank that things owned by everyone are things owned by nobody 😉 Many executive boards with nonprofits and foundations have a secretary role which helps with things like this. I know y'all have probably moved on from this from now. But just 2¢ of mine as I sit on my airport wishing that I was smelling that Seville air right now 😁
2025-02-04 14:16:45 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Amazing.
2025-02-04 14:16:56 <@jflory7:fedora.im> That's fair. I would like to join for that remotely too
2025-02-04 14:17:31 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I am available for pings on this one. But Sumantro is the right person to represent it and I trust him to own it well!
2025-02-04 14:18:16 <@amoloney:fedora.im> This is literally just instead of posting a topic for conversation into Matrix, we are going to post it to discussion instead. Does that make sense?
2025-02-04 15:11:02 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Maybe we should consider the reasons why Fedora Discussion works better or not for different contributor personas… that said, I don't have a better answer and I won't be the stop energy. I will do my best 🙂 
2025-02-04 15:54:39 <@amoloney:fedora.im> !AGREED The Fedora Council would like to see a specific Mindshare budget be allocated from an overall Fedora Budget, so that the committee will be more empowered to support events. This will need more discussion with the wider council members and FCA before we could make a decision on supporting the new proposals for Mindshare.
2025-02-04 15:56:07 <@amoloney:fedora.im> !agreed The Fedora Council would like to see a specific Mindshare budget be allocated from an overall Fedora Budget, so that the committee will be more empowered to support events. This will need more discussion with the wider council members and FCA before we could make a decision on supporting the new proposals for Mindshare.
2025-02-04 15:56:11 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !agreed The Fedora Council would like to see a specific Mindshare budget be allocated from an overall Fedora Budget, so that the committee will be more empowered to support events. This will need more discussion with the wider council members and FCA before we could make a decision on supporting the new proposals for Mindshare.
2025-02-04 15:56:22 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Hah
2025-02-04 15:56:25 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Jinx 😝
2025-02-04 15:56:37 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I'm on board for this 👍🏻
2025-02-04 15:58:56 <@amoloney:fedora.im> !action Sumantro Mukherjee will follow up in one month with feedback from Mindshare Committee members to the council on the current proposal to change the committees responsibilities
2025-02-04 16:02:20 <@amoloney:fedora.im> !endmeeting