14:18:49 <mizmo> #startmeeting design-team
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14:18:49 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.start -- duffy started meeting "design-team" in #fedora-design
14:18:59 <mizmo> okay
14:19:13 <mizmo> so #1, the APAC meeting hasn't happened yet but i believe they have settled on a time
14:19:18 <mizmo> so hopefully will start next week
14:19:25 <mizmo> so we won't review their minutes since there are none :)
14:19:56 <mizmo> im seeing 11 ICT / 1400 brisbane as the proposed time fwiw
14:19:58 <mizmo> okay
14:20:12 <mizmo> so the other thing is, are there any urgent tickets or should we hold off on tickets and discuss wallpaper for today
14:20:29 <mleonova> I'm thinking wallpaper
14:20:39 <mizmo> okay cool
14:20:43 <mizmo> gnokii, you around?
14:20:45 <mizmo> #topic wallpaper
14:20:45 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.topic.update -- The topic of duffy's "design-team" meeting changed to "wallpaper" in #fedora-design
14:20:56 <mizmo> if i understand correctly, archimedes is the way we're going
14:21:07 <mshakshober> that
14:21:14 <mizmo> mshakshober has been working on a pinboard / inspiration board to kind try to find a visual direct
14:21:17 <mizmo> direction
14:21:19 <mshakshober> *thats what I thought at least
14:21:38 <mizmo> mshakshober, got the link handy?
14:21:59 <mshakshober> yup, here it is: https://www.pinterest.com/norpants96/f25-wallpaper-inspiration/
14:22:03 <mizmo> coolio
14:22:11 <mizmo> can you invite us to it too so we can add pins as well?
14:22:19 <mizmo> my username on pinterest is mairindubh i think
14:22:31 <mizmo> yep it is
14:23:03 <mshakshober> sure! anyone that want's to be added just give me your pinterest username
14:23:16 <mythcat> :)
14:23:38 <mleonova> mshakshober, I'll look it up
14:23:54 <mshakshober> sounds good
14:24:09 <mshakshober> mimzo, just added you
14:24:16 <mizmo> thanks!!
14:24:37 <mleonova> mshakshober, mashalatte lol =)
14:24:54 <mizmo> i love the dandelion screw... it's this weird kind of natural / organic plant made of man made mechanical parts!
14:25:05 <mizmo> https://www.pinterest.com/pin/427208714635945907/
14:25:05 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://www.pinterest.com/pin/427208714635945907/"
14:25:32 <mshakshober> all set with you too mleonova!
14:25:42 <mleonova> mshakshober, thanks!
14:26:15 <mleonova> I love the spiral =)
14:26:47 <mshakshober> mimzo, ya that flower is one of the things that i'm liking the most too
14:26:52 <mizmo> there's so many ways we can go with archimedes
14:27:16 <mythcat> https://ro.pinterest.com/pin/201325045821463495/
14:27:16 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- mythcat linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://ro.pinterest.com/pin/201325045821463495/"
14:27:24 <mizmo> he came up with mathematical principles on infinitesimals - makes me think of macro stuff
14:27:30 <mizmo> (macro photography)
14:27:35 <mshakshober> i understand that archimedes was a mathematician as well... maybe another idea could be fractals or algorithmic art?
14:28:01 <mshakshober> https://www.google.com/search?q=fractal+art&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjtzOOe49zOAhVDFh4KHbXDCggQ_AUICCgB&biw=1431&bih=681
14:28:01 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- mshakshober linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://www.google.com/search?q=fractal+art&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjtzOOe49zOAhVDFh4KHbXDCggQ_AUICCgB&biw=1431&bih=681"
14:28:07 <mshakshober> fractals give me life
14:28:17 <mizmo> he also worked on hydrostatics, fluid mechanics, which could be neat (and blue)
14:28:18 <mythcat> #idea https://ro.pinterest.com/pin/201325045821463495/
14:28:18 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.idea -- mythcat proposed an idea in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://ro.pinterest.com/pin/201325045821463495/"
14:28:32 <mleonova> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/88/Archimedean_spiral_polar.svg/609px-Archimedean_spiral_polar.svg.png - spiral is cool
14:28:33 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- mleonova linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/88/Archimedean_spiral_polar.svg/609px-Archimedean_spiral_polar.svg.png - spiral is cool" https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/88/Archimedean_spiral_polar.svg/609px-
14:28:34 <fedmsg-design> Archimedean_spiral_polar.svg.png
14:28:35 <mizmo> this is gorgeous https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.magic4walls.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2014%2F03%2Fabstract-fractal-art-petals-flower-sfondi-chrysanthemum-wallpaper.jpg&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.magic4walls.com%2Fwallpaper%2Ffractal-flowers-abstract-petals-glitter-lights-art-3d-fullscreen-28835.html&docid=jNpgXWPXU0vdGM&tbnid=LgS4fgibAuudCM%3A&w=1920&h=1440&bih=1268&biw=1280&ved=0ahUKEwj8poKt49zOAhUCGR4KHYMHCS8Q
14:28:35 <mizmo> Mwg7KAAwAA&iact=mrc&uact=8
14:28:40 <mizmo> damn google!
14:28:49 <mizmo> better link: http://www.magic4walls.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/abstract-fractal-art-petals-flower-sfondi-chrysanthemum-wallpaper.jpg
14:28:55 <mleonova> the pic is beautiful tho =)
14:28:55 <mizmo> i dont know how to generate that kind of image tho o_O
14:29:41 <mythcat> blender
14:30:28 <mleonova> https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/69/4f/df/694fdff81cb97eb1392acead2e968db5.jpg
14:30:29 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- mleonova linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/69/4f/df/694fdff81cb97eb1392acead2e968db5.jpg"
14:30:33 <gnokii> sorry I have bad connection, i actually even dont see when I get disconnected
14:30:35 <mleonova> oh hey gnokii
14:30:53 <mizmo> mleonova, i get access denied on that one :(
14:31:11 <mizmo> oh onw i got it
14:31:14 <mleonova> mizmo, I'll try adding it to the board
14:33:31 <mleonova> a lot of spirals now - they are beautiful
14:33:49 <mshakshober> http://thumbs.imagekind.com/3263242_650/Resonant-Spiral--Fractal-Art_art.jpg?v=1466202876
14:33:50 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- mshakshober linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "http://thumbs.imagekind.com/3263242_650/Resonant-Spiral--Fractal-Art_art.jpg?v=1466202876"
14:35:11 <mizmo> http://fullhdpictures.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Screw-Wallpapers.jpg
14:35:12 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "http://fullhdpictures.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Screw-Wallpapers.jpg"
14:36:10 <mizmo> im saving a bunch of stuff to the board lol
14:36:35 <mshakshober> cool, thanks mimzo :)
14:39:45 <mizmo> so one thing we have to watch with spirals
14:39:57 <mizmo> for a wallpaper, we dont want people to get the sense of sinking or falling
14:40:11 <mshakshober> *note taken
14:40:22 <mizmo> something like this is absolutely perfect, bc it conveys the concept without impacting the viewer too much https://www.pinterest.com/pin/427208714635956673/
14:41:05 <mleonova> mesmerizing this thing
14:41:29 <mizmo> you also have to worry aobut too much contrast / high frequency in a spiral image
14:41:29 <mizmo> eg
14:41:42 <mythcat> can we vote with +1
14:41:44 <mizmo> this is too contrasty for a background wallpaper https://www.pinterest.com/pin/564990715727620958/
14:41:54 <mizmo> mythcat, we're just digging up inspirtions right now, no voting
14:42:32 <mizmo> something like this is better in terms of image frequency... it's black and white but the contrast isn't as punchy (i dont know how to describe this, hope it makes sense)
14:42:34 <mizmo> https://www.pinterest.com/pin/486529565971001907/
14:42:34 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://www.pinterest.com/pin/486529565971001907/"
14:43:25 <mshakshober> i like those last few a lot; simple but still implies a spiral
14:43:33 <mleonova> this one is making me dizzy =)
14:43:42 <mleonova> the last one
14:43:48 <mizmo> thats definitely what we want to avoid
14:43:55 <mizmo> we dont want viewers to feel dizzy
14:49:25 <mleonova> mizmo, love the latest additions
14:51:25 <mythcat> for me is galaxy and something with spiral effect
14:51:25 <mizmo> \o/
14:56:23 <mizmo> eek this is hard
14:56:29 * mizmo digging thru stuff trying to find good image
14:58:01 <mizmo> holy crap look at these https://www.pinterest.com/pin/199988039677941435/
14:58:12 <mizmo> (scroll down to related pins)
14:58:59 <mleonova> wow!
14:59:29 <mshakshober> this one :O https://www.pinterest.com/pin/503066220854733281/
14:59:54 <mleonova> talking about galaxies https://pixabay.com/en/colliding-spiral-galaxies-ngc-2207-604173/
15:00:06 <mleonova> https://pixabay.com/en/light-spiral-fractal-art-space-285564/
15:00:07 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- mleonova linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://pixabay.com/en/light-spiral-fractal-art-space-285564/"
15:00:17 <mizmo> i do feel like we've done a lot of space artwork in fedora already
15:02:58 <mleonova> mizmo, that's true
15:03:22 <mleonova> I don't know if sky is a requirement or just happens to be blue?
15:05:12 <mizmo> just needs to be blue, no sky needed
15:05:51 <mleonova> cool
15:07:43 <mizmo> ah some of the spiral stuff makes me think of tara donovan are you familiar with ehr
15:08:31 <mizmo> http://www.artnet.com/magazineus/reviews/robinson/robinson4-17-06_detail.asp?picnum=21
15:08:31 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "http://www.artnet.com/magazineus/reviews/robinson/robinson4-17-06_detail.asp?picnum=21"
15:10:41 <mleonova> mizmo, no, who is that?
15:11:01 <mizmo> she makes these art works that are... really weird / organic out of repeated objects usually household objects
15:11:25 <mizmo> http://denadadesign.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Tara-Donovan-Untitled-Styrofoam-Cups-DeNada.jpg
15:11:25 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "http://denadadesign.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Tara-Donovan-Untitled-Styrofoam-Cups-DeNada.jpg"
15:11:30 * mleonova is googling
15:11:33 <mizmo> this is made from styrofoam cups
15:11:46 <mleonova> cool!
15:12:03 <mizmo> http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3036/3157998342_3f3b63d865.jpg?v=0  cellophane sheets, stacked
15:12:04 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3036/3157998342_3f3b63d865.jpg?v=0  cellophane sheets, stacked" http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3036/3157998342_3f3b63d865.jpg?v=0
15:12:17 <mizmo> some of it has a fractal look bc of the repetition
15:13:40 <mleonova> https://ru.pinterest.com/explore/tara-donovan/
15:13:40 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- mleonova linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://ru.pinterest.com/explore/tara-donovan/"
15:13:45 <mleonova> hehe
15:15:52 <mshakshober> http://www.designboom.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/blackholethumb.jpg
15:15:52 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- mshakshober linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "http://www.designboom.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/blackholethumb.jpg"
15:16:55 <mythcat> take a loo here http://www.wikiverse.io/
15:23:52 <mizmo> i gotta run soon
15:24:00 <mizmo> mshakshober, is this helping?
15:24:16 <mshakshober> mimzo, ya absolutely!
15:24:37 <mshakshober> i've got much more to think about now *thumbs up
15:26:29 <mizmo> i think some kind of tie to nature is important with fractal stuff
15:26:38 <mizmo> or it tends to look auto generated
15:26:51 <mizmo> somethign where it's a plant or it emulates some kind of organic thing
15:27:40 <mizmo> fabric folds...
15:27:41 <mizmo> something like that
15:27:49 <mythcat> processing
15:28:47 <mshakshober> ya i agree, i think a natural feel would be most successful
15:35:02 <mizmo> all right i gotta jet
15:35:04 <mizmo> im gonna endmeeting
15:35:06 <mizmo> #endmeeting