17:04:46 <mizmo> #startmeeting design-team
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17:04:46 <fm-design> meetbot.meeting.start -- duffy started meeting "design-team" in #fedora-design
17:05:08 <mizmo> ...
17:05:09 <mizmo> yep
17:05:42 <mizmo> well ok then
17:05:45 <mizmo> i wasnt expecting that to work
17:05:49 <mleonova_> =)
17:05:58 <mizmo> ok so definitely wanted to talk about the F29 wallpaper bc that is super urgent
17:06:13 <mleonova_> already?
17:06:20 <mizmo> but i want to also do open floor to make sure if there were any issues that need to be raised that they can be
17:06:21 <mizmo> #topic open floor
17:06:21 <fm-design> meetbot.meeting.topic.update -- The topic of duffy's "design-team" meeting changed to "open floor" in #fedora-design
17:06:24 <mizmo> what do you think, do either of you have any issues to raise?
17:06:49 <mleonova_> not really, I'm mostly looking at Flock stuff
17:07:04 <mleonova_> I think so far we have it figured out
17:07:14 <mizmo> ok is that going ok? thank you for the t-shirt help
17:07:25 <ctmartin> nope, I'm pretty much a lurker
17:07:46 <mleonova_> thank you for starting the T-shirt design, mizmo =)
17:08:07 <mleonova_> now I'm working on the badge
17:08:21 <mleonova_> I'm just missing tanvi's svg for the logo
17:08:37 <mleonova_> can't seem to get the file working
17:10:05 <mizmo> ugh frustrating hopefully she can get you a proper version?
17:10:19 <mizmo> i wonder if its made with an earlier version of inkscape or something? ive never had issues with cross version compat with inkscape though :-/
17:10:25 <mizmo> is the file just not opening at all?
17:10:55 <mleonova_> the latest I can't even open, and the previous one I am not able to copy-paste from
17:11:07 <mleonova_> it just goes all black
17:11:29 <ctmartin> mleonova_: on the one that doesn't open, if you open it in a text editor does it look like SVG?
17:11:48 <mleonova_> ctmartin, I haven't tried that
17:12:01 <mleonova_> https://pagure.io/design/issue/raw/files/ab378beb1e3d8caa2d1fed1265d88d073704dc456c665a4dddf48cfe75110128-flocklogo_v3.svg
17:12:01 <fm-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- mleonova_ linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://pagure.io/design/issue/raw/files/ab378beb1e3d8caa2d1fed1265d88d073704dc456c665a4dddf48cfe75110128-flocklogo_v3.svg"
17:12:28 <sam08> hey all :)
17:12:40 <sam08> sorry, i'm late
17:12:46 <mizmo> Resolving pagure.io (pagure.io)... 2605:bc80:3010:600:dead:beef:cafe:fed8,     dead beef cafe!
17:12:50 <mizmo> hey sam08!!!!! long time :)
17:12:51 <mleonova_> hi sam08
17:13:02 <mizmo> <!-- Generator: Adobe Illustrator 16.0.0, SVG Export Plug-In . SVG Version: 6.00 Build 0)  -->
17:13:17 <mizmo> :-/ guessing maybe a broken illustrator thing
17:13:23 <ctmartin> ^
17:13:29 <mleonova_> ohh
17:13:37 <ctmartin> it looks like valid SVG at least
17:13:47 <mizmo> there may be a clever trick like ps2ps or something like that
17:14:08 <mleonova_> if anyone can figure it out, I'll really appreciate the help)
17:14:14 <ctmartin> opened fine in Inkscape on my laptop, let me grab my version number quick
17:14:31 <ctmartin> 0.92.3 on Fedora 28
17:14:38 <sam08> i can open it as well
17:14:43 <mleonova_> hmm
17:15:20 <mleonova_> I have the same version
17:15:20 <mizmo> it worked for me too, i'm using the latest flatpak version from flathub
17:15:34 * ctmartin uploaded an image: flock.svg (78KB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/NMOucUoQHrggpJLBrPWUpgBe >
17:15:36 <ctmartin> can you try that ^
17:15:52 <ctmartin> I just exported it from Inkscape
17:15:57 <mizmo> here let me save it out as an inkscape svg and lets see if that helps
17:16:16 * mleonova_ tries that
17:16:50 <mleonova_> ctmartin, awesome! that worked
17:16:56 <mleonova_> thank you
17:17:04 <fm-design> pagure.issue.comment.added -- duffy commented on ticket design#598: "Flock Dresden 2018 Logo" https://pagure.io/design/issue/598#comment-522176
17:17:14 <mizmo> oh good you got it
17:17:15 <ctmartin> mleonova_: glad it worked
17:17:15 <mizmo> cool
17:17:17 <mleonova_> =)
17:17:52 <mizmo> okay cool anything else before we move on to the f29 wallpaper?
17:18:21 <mleonova_> nothing from me
17:18:46 <sam08> nothing from me either
17:18:47 <ctmartin> nope
17:21:06 <mizmo> ok cool
17:21:11 <mizmo> #topic f29 wallpaper
17:21:12 <fm-design> meetbot.meeting.topic.update -- The topic of duffy's "design-team" meeting changed to "f29 wallpaper" in #fedora-design
17:21:14 <mizmo> ok so i dont know if everyone saw my post on it
17:21:21 <ctmartin> So, I had a rough idea: a lot of her work was in drugs for diseases. I think we could do a molecular model in Blender with volumetric shading and a tint to allude to the bloodstream aspect of the drugs. If we angle the right drug the right way we might be able to get a "9" shape
17:21:21 <mizmo> bsaically we have roughly 4 weeks to get something together for beta
17:21:35 <mizmo> are we ok with the scientist i proposed?
17:22:31 <mleonova_> oh I missed the post
17:23:18 <ctmartin> Yep. By the way, Aciclovir is probably the best bet to get that "9" shape
17:23:53 <mizmo> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/HJX2RYDRJUEE4HRRGUES7EP7K6HORJWC/
17:23:53 <fm-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/HJX2RYDRJUEE4HRRGUES7EP7K6HORJWC/"
17:25:02 <mleonova_> mizmo, cool! thanks for the link
17:25:14 <mizmo> so the gist is seeing that time is short, i just proposed a scientist rather than doing the full voting process. i know it's a departure but if we're ok with it maybe we should just go ahead
17:25:34 <mleonova_> I think it's a great proposal
17:25:41 <mizmo> Gertrude B. Elion is the scientist i proposed, she helped discover the DNA double helix
17:25:48 <mizmo> er wait
17:25:49 <mizmo> no, no, she discovered a lot of new innovative drugs
17:25:58 <mizmo> (lol the first scientist i looked at discovered the dna double helix but she was F, and I forgot we were on E not F)
17:26:06 <mleonova_> =)
17:26:34 <mizmo> ctmartin - it seems like you have a clear visual in mind but i'm having a hard time visualizing it based on your description, any chance you could do a sketch?
17:26:39 <mizmo> oh we need a ticket for it too, ill make that now
17:29:16 <fm-design> pagure.issue.new -- duffy opened a new ticket design#610: "Fedora 29 Wallpaper" https://pagure.io/design/issue/610
17:29:45 <mizmo> ok here's our ticket: https://pagure.io/design/issue/610
17:31:10 * ctmartin uploaded an image: IMG_20180717_133048.jpg (58KB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/KVGndrKJtjufxiLKQgdmpXva >
17:31:30 <sam08> ctmartin, why do you suggest using a shape that resembles the figure 9?
17:31:54 <ctmartin> (sorry, not on Pagure yet I think)
17:32:36 <ctmartin> sam08: since we did the 8 in 28; just 'cause
17:33:22 <ctmartin> also, I oops on the exact position of things in the model... oops
17:34:34 <sam08> ctmartin, i think the 8 was more of a reference to the infinity symbol/fedora logo? :)
17:35:21 <mleonova_> sam08, it's cool if it resembles a 9 or 29
17:35:28 <mleonova_> if only vaguely
17:35:41 <ctmartin> I think that was the intention, but it worked out that way too as I see it
17:35:44 <mizmo> yeh the 8 was the fedora infinity symbol
17:36:00 <mizmo> that is kind of cool that it worked out that way
17:36:52 <ctmartin> If we want an 8 we could use Mercaptopurine
17:37:25 <mleonova_> ctmartin, either way is fine probably
17:37:31 <mizmo> we definitely dont need to reference numbers, i like having a strong non-obvious concept
17:37:31 <ctmartin> or Allopurinol
17:37:31 <mizmo> theres nothing wrong with citing numbers
17:37:37 <ctmartin> s/8/Fedora Infinity
17:38:07 <mizmo> but maybe we could step back and figure out how elion's work relates to fedora and figure out a concept around that
17:38:58 <ctmartin> rough idea was the idea of a bloodstream and the molecular structure of drugs since she looked at biochemistry
17:39:08 <mizmo> she was a child of the Great Depressoin
17:39:40 <sam08> '29...
17:39:56 <mizmo> her work towards cancer research involved tricking cancer cells into accepting artifical compounds which would then destroy them and not normal cells
17:40:05 <ctmartin> "...used the differences in biochemistry between normal human cells and pathogens... to design drugs that could kill or inhibit the reproduction of particular pathogens without harming the host cells"
17:40:51 <mizmo> she also looked at the diffs between human cells and pathogenic cells to figure out how to kill pathogens without killing host cells
17:40:56 <mizmo> yes
17:41:09 <ctmartin> Maybe something about automated testing/processes?
17:41:09 <mizmo> purines were a focus, maybe something about purines could be riffable
17:41:11 <ctmartin> Or modularity
17:41:51 <mizmo> are there any important milestones in modularity planned for f29?
17:41:57 <ctmartin> no idea
17:41:58 <mizmo> let me ask langdon real quick brb (he sits right by me)
17:43:45 <mizmo> ok he said yes!
17:43:49 <mizmo> right now f29 is targetted to be fully modular
17:43:56 <mizmo> its uncertain if itll definitely make it but it sa target
17:44:21 <mizmo> so if we tried to make a visual relating to modularness and relate it to her work, that'd be a solid concept i think
17:45:33 <mizmo> so maybe we'd do something visually that related to the structure of purines
17:45:37 <mizmo> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purine
17:45:37 <fm-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purine"
17:45:51 * mizmo also notes that purines are prevalent in meat products and as such likely are present in beefy miracle ^-^
17:46:05 <mleonova_> =))
17:46:24 <mizmo> oh and caffeine is a purine!
17:46:31 <mizmo> \o/
17:46:38 * mleonova_ likey
17:46:45 <mizmo> ok lets dig around
17:46:51 <sam08> :)
17:47:09 <ctmartin> One of the main ideas of modularity is that parts can move at different speeds ("different lifecycles") - I wonder if that could be used alongside the idea of her targeting just the pathogens
17:47:13 <mizmo> i am no chemist, what i see in the diagrams are hex shapes
17:47:42 <ctmartin> lol, I feel that
17:48:01 <mizmo> well in the same way she's trying to target specific substances and not others so when they are removed they don't hurt the host, modularity tries to target specific pieces of code that can be removed without screwing up the OS :)
17:48:12 <mizmo> and in some senses the OS is literally called the 'host' system
17:48:23 <mizmo> not that we want to brand our software as pathogens... :)
17:48:55 <mizmo> i like how youre pushing the concept ctmartin :)
17:49:07 <ctmartin> lol, that would be amusing if only in the irony
17:49:17 <mizmo> some visual food for thought (please feel free to chime in with your own findings)
17:49:18 <mizmo> https://dribbble.com/shots/3986727-Snowflake-Lattice-MisteryMyra-collaboration-part-3
17:49:18 <fm-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://dribbble.com/shots/3986727-Snowflake-Lattice-MisteryMyra-collaboration-part-3"
17:49:28 <mizmo> https://dribbble.com/shots/4281881-Hex-Doctor-4k-Wallpapers
17:49:28 <fm-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://dribbble.com/shots/4281881-Hex-Doctor-4k-Wallpapers"
17:49:41 <mizmo> https://dribbble.com/shots/1748463-Hexagons
17:49:42 <fm-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://dribbble.com/shots/1748463-Hexagons"
17:50:03 <mizmo> https://dribbble.com/shots/3914943-Colour-Spectrum
17:50:04 <fm-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://dribbble.com/shots/3914943-Colour-Spectrum"
17:50:07 <ctmartin> ooh, I was playing with kaleidoscopes this semester
17:50:10 <ctmartin> one sec, let me grab a link
17:50:21 <mizmo> https://dribbble.com/shots/1452793-Apidura-Initial-Concepts
17:50:22 <fm-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://dribbble.com/shots/1452793-Apidura-Initial-Concepts"
17:50:33 <mizmo> https://dribbble.com/shots/2855729-Colorful-Hexagons  <= this is... interesting...
17:50:33 <fm-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://dribbble.com/shots/2855729-Colorful-Hexagons  <= this is... interesting..." https://dribbble.com/shots/2855729-Colorful-Hexagons
17:51:06 <mizmo> https://dribbble.com/shots/3258522-Hexagons <= i'm kind of :-S on this one but maybe food for thought. id hate to see us going with something just like this tho its flat
17:51:06 <fm-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://dribbble.com/shots/3258522-Hexagons <= i'm kind of :-S on this one but maybe food for thought. id hate to see us going with something just like this tho its flat" https://dribbble.com/shots/3258522-Hexagons
17:51:12 <mleonova_> I really liked the 2nd one
17:51:18 <mizmo> https://dribbble.com/shots/2156342-Hexagonal-Hard-Candy
17:51:18 <fm-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://dribbble.com/shots/2156342-Hexagonal-Hard-Candy"
17:52:01 <mizmo> mleonova yeh! i wonder if itd have the same effect static / unanimated tho :-/
17:52:04 <mleonova_> this ^^ is cool too
17:52:28 <mleonova_> wonder if we could do 2 hexes together
17:52:36 <mizmo> oh man just reminded me of something
17:52:40 <mizmo> the giant's causeway, have you ever heard of it
17:52:40 <mizmo> oh man
17:53:01 <mizmo> http://www.worldfortravel.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Giants-Causeway.jpg
17:53:02 <fm-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "http://www.worldfortravel.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Giants-Causeway.jpg"
17:53:14 <mizmo> https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-jOZCnJ27ij0/UCTxByK4VPI/AAAAAAAAD0o/7DCsSMyxZIg/s1600/Giant%E2%80%99s+Causeway,+Ireland+7.jpg
17:53:14 <fm-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-jOZCnJ27ij0/UCTxByK4VPI/AAAAAAAAD0o/7DCsSMyxZIg/s1600/Giant%E2%80%99s+Causeway,+Ireland+7.jpg"
17:53:28 <mleonova_> that is awesome
17:53:55 <mizmo> these weird rock piles of hexagon cyclindrical thingys
17:54:05 <mizmo> it happened when lava cooled off suddenly hitting the ocean
17:54:14 <mizmo> cracks formed in a pattern
17:54:16 <mleonova_> https://3c1703fe8d.site.internapcdn.net/newman/gfx/news/hires/2018/4-newinsightin.jpg
17:54:17 <fm-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- mleonova_ linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://3c1703fe8d.site.internapcdn.net/newman/gfx/news/hires/2018/4-newinsightin.jpg"
17:54:21 <mleonova_> nice view
17:55:07 <ctmartin> not sure if I need to change the permissions, but here's something I was playing with this semester for kaleidoscope effects, you could get some motion effect by not fully replacing the background each frame and letting it run a couple frames: https://people.rit.edu/ctm2142/igme330/project2/
17:55:28 <ctmartin> (you can draw on the canvas or use an image, although I think the latter requires it to be on the server)
17:55:52 <mizmo> with waterfall effect http://wallpaperswide.com/giants_causeway_antrim_northern_ireland-wallpapers.html
17:55:56 * mizmo looks
17:55:57 <ctmartin> I like the giant's causeway idea too
17:57:52 <mizmo> thats neat, i like how it works with the imported tigeros texture
17:58:52 <mizmo> i can see how we could extrude hexagons and make a giants causeway like structure although i dont know if thats too far departed from purine structure
17:59:47 <mizmo> https://www.kurzemnieks.com/hexagon-tiles-blender-shader/
17:59:47 <fm-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://www.kurzemnieks.com/hexagon-tiles-blender-shader/"
18:00:09 <mizmo> https://www.blendernation.com/2016/10/06/abstract-scene-hexagon-tiles/
18:00:10 <fm-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://www.blendernation.com/2016/10/06/abstract-scene-hexagon-tiles/"
18:01:04 <mizmo> https://www.reddit.com/r/blender/comments/515acq/tessellating_hexagon_desktop_background/
18:01:04 <fm-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://www.reddit.com/r/blender/comments/515acq/tessellating_hexagon_desktop_background/"
18:01:10 <mizmo> that last one has too much vibration for a desktop background i think
18:01:42 <mizmo> kind of reminds me of my favorite artist, tara donovan whos done stuff like that with solo cups.... https://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ignant.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2017%2F06%2FiGNANT_Art_Tara_Donovan_Plastic_Cups_5.jpg&f=1
18:02:15 <ctmartin> The raised pillars could "coincidentally" make the shape of one of the molecules of one of her drugs, a little like the 9 idea before, although we might want to think about the modularity aspect a little more
18:02:22 <mizmo> doing a spherical extrusion seems kind of neat in that i can totally see that as an object floating through a bloodstream - https://www.blendernation.com/2016/07/29/abstract-spherical-explosion-hexagon-particles/
18:03:06 <mizmo> well im wondeirng is the hexagonal shape common to purines or is it common to all chem diagrams, its been too many years for me to know
18:03:30 <ctmartin> reminds me a little bit of those pin wall things where it stays makes a 3d imprint of what's pushed against it
18:04:02 <mizmo> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDsqpeiTqg8 :)
18:04:03 <fm-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDsqpeiTqg8 :)" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDsqpeiTqg8
18:04:49 <ctmartin> I think with Giant's Causeway or similar you could try to evoke the idea of releases at different times but still composing the whole in the end
18:04:52 <mizmo> i like this visual but no idea how it relates lol https://i.pinimg.com/736x/f0/c2/65/f0c26503f0c229a3431220669ee535e4.jpg
18:04:57 <ctmartin> Hexagons are a fairly generic shape though by itself
18:06:44 <mizmo> i guess the hexagons are used to symbolize a ring
18:06:54 <mizmo> and purines are comprised of two rings
18:07:11 <mizmo> so you could symbolize a purine with two conjoined hexes, one slightly smaller than the other
18:07:57 <mizmo> that is the one thing in common with all the purine compounds, the double ring with one ring slightly smaller
18:07:57 <ctmartin> random thought: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diGjw5tghYU
18:08:37 <mizmo> can you talk me through it?
18:09:09 <ctmartin> mizmo: ?
18:09:16 <ctmartin> Also, the smaller rings is a pentagon
18:09:20 <mizmo> the final visual im not super happy with... it's very singular and centered, i think we need a bit more ... id ont know what, landscapey-ness / chaos
18:09:31 <mizmo> (re the youtube link)
18:09:58 <mizmo> the wallpaper needs to recede into the background and not call a lot of attention and be object centric if that makes sense
18:10:03 <mizmo> landscape types of compositions do that
18:11:21 <ctmartin> ah. I had started with the thought of the pins and such and remember he did a number of fractal/similar videos. You can make them do much more arbitrary things if you wanted. not a final idea
18:11:25 <mizmo> well we're definitely over the hour...
18:11:35 <mizmo> what do we wanna do going forward
18:12:01 <mleonova__> mizmo: could you sum up the ideas in the ticket please?
18:12:46 <mizmo> sure
18:12:54 <mizmo> does anybody want to take point on this
18:20:05 <fm-design> pagure.issue.comment.added -- kylerconway commented on ticket design#610: "Fedora 29 Wallpaper" https://pagure.io/design/issue/610#comment-522184
18:20:46 <ctmartin> mizmo: if you just want a recap I can do that tonight
18:21:28 <mizmo> ctmartin im more looking for someone to take lead on the visuals
18:21:31 <mizmo> im halfway finsihed writing up the summary
18:21:40 <mizmo> if nobody takes it it'll fall to me but id love for this to be a team effort
18:22:14 <mleonova_> mizmo, I don't have any spare time for it right now(
18:23:53 <mizmo> mleonova totally, you're running point on flock
18:24:28 <snydez> visuals for the f29 wallpaper
18:24:28 <mizmo> what i'll do is try to put together some kind of initial set of visuals if no one else has cycles right now - i think sometimes when you have something to start with it's easier to jump in than to start without anythign concrete
18:24:57 <snydez> appologies ive been on read only due to work
18:25:37 * snydez plans to read the meeting notes
18:26:07 <mizmo> snydez++
18:26:58 <snydez> oh whoops :)
18:27:06 <sadin> better
18:27:28 <ctmartin> I'm on my last couple weeks of my summer co-op and need to take down my setup next week for several days while I move out. I might be able to play at some point, but can't promise anything now
18:27:59 <ctmartin> (co-op = paid, full-time internship btw)
18:28:12 <sadin> ctmartin im in the middle of one as well.
18:28:29 <sadin> I relate.
18:29:05 <ctmartin> sadin: university student as well?
18:30:13 <sadin> ctmartin yes part time student, full time internship. More of a Dev, than Designer these days.
18:30:26 <fm-design> pagure.issue.comment.added -- duffy commented on ticket design#610: "Fedora 29 Wallpaper" https://pagure.io/design/issue/610#comment-522188
18:30:49 <fm-design> pagure.issue.assigned.added -- duffy assigned ticket design#610 to duffy https://pagure.io/design/issue/610
18:31:02 <mizmo> ok i summarized i hope sufficiently in the ticket
18:31:10 <ctmartin> sadin: nice
18:31:15 <sadin> I really wanted to help last release with the wallpaper but that fell through due to work, so lets see how this pans out.
18:31:49 <fm-design> pagure.issue.comment.added -- duffy commented on ticket design#610: "Fedora 29 Wallpaper" https://pagure.io/design/issue/610#comment-522190
18:32:47 <mizmo> all right i'm going to close out the meeting
18:32:48 <mizmo> #stopmeeting
18:32:51 <algogator> oh
18:32:55 <mizmo> #endmeeting