17:01:27 #startmeeting design-team 17:01:27 Meeting started Tue May 21 17:01:27 2019 UTC. 17:01:27 This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 17:01:27 The chair is mizmo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:01:27 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 17:01:27 The meeting name has been set to 'design-team' 17:01:27 meetbot.meeting.start -- duffy started meeting "design-team" in #fedora-design 17:01:39 #topic open floor 17:01:39 meetbot.meeting.topic.update -- The topic of duffy's "design-team" meeting changed to "open floor" in #fedora-design 17:01:49 any open floor issues to hit before we do triage? 17:02:02 nope 17:02:05 i think one thing to be aware of is gnokii sent out a vote / survey for the f31 theme 17:02:10 Just saying hello! Hi 17:02:17 hey K_REY_C[m] (IRC) ! 17:02:28 oh dear i wonder how that looks on the irc side lol 17:03:07 OK here's the thread on the F31 theme: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/7NMIIDYBILBXDTVI6MRLB5O7TYTWWVC6/ 17:03:22 Thanks! 17:03:24 #action everyone take a look at the F31 theme voting and think of ideas to submit: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/7NMIIDYBILBXDTVI6MRLB5O7TYTWWVC6/ 17:03:24 meetbot.meeting.item.action -- duffy noted an action in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "everyone take a look at the F31 theme voting and think of ideas to submit: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/7NMIIDYBILBXDTVI6MRLB5O7TYTWWVC6/" 17:03:31 ok let's do triage :) 17:03:34 #topic triage 17:03:34 meetbot.meeting.topic.update -- The topic of duffy's "design-team" meeting changed to "triage" in #fedora-design 17:03:58 ok there were some tickets that went by in here thru fedmsg i wanted to make sure we caught up with because they had gone a long time wo a reply from reporter 17:04:26 well just one actually 17:04:34 https://pagure.io/design/issue/606 17:04:34 meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://pagure.io/design/issue/606" 17:04:43 #606 Logo for fedora happiness packets 17:05:28 i think we can probably just close this one? 17:05:34 reporter is accepting the rationale and the final design 17:05:45 yeah i think it's done now 17:06:05 pagure.issue.edit -- duffy edited the close_status and status fields of ticket design#606 https://pagure.io/design/issue/606 17:06:06 pagure.issue.comment.added -- duffy commented on ticket design#606: "Logo for fedora happiness packets" https://pagure.io/design/issue/606#comment-571443 17:06:18 terezahl: hopefully you're banking some good fedora badges points with all these tickets you're fixing + closing :) 17:06:45 hehe 17:07:03 mailman.receive -- On the design-team list, kylerconway replied to '[Design-team] Re: Fedora 31 theming' https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/ZAOCLBGUTPRPQDRWWTLDSNZIHMWN4BYZ/ 17:07:16 ok now lets go to the main list 17:07:16 https://pagure.io/design/issues 17:07:17 meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://pagure.io/design/issues" 17:07:35 https://pagure.io/design/issue/638 #638 Fedora Swag Design Catalog 17:07:36 meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://pagure.io/design/issue/638 #638 Fedora Swag Design Catalog" https://pagure.io/design/issue/638 17:07:48 this is basically your summer project terezahl - i need to tag it triaged though :) 17:08:03 there we go 17:08:06 ok 17:08:16 https://pagure.io/design/issue/637 #637 Fedora sticker sheet + sponsor banner for South East Linux Fest (SELF) 17:08:16 meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://pagure.io/design/issue/637 #637 Fedora sticker sheet + sponsor banner for South East Linux Fest (SELF)" https://pagure.io/design/issue/637 17:08:26 this is one that came up last week or so, just so everyone is aware 17:09:15 we need to order some new swag, given the new logo process is going to take a while longer than we initially thought 17:09:32 and with SELF coming up mattdm and bex wanted to make the diversity of our community a theme 17:09:37 Those characters look great! 17:09:54 so i created some characters to represent diversity within fedora 17:09:58 yay glad you like them K_REY_C[m] (IRC) 17:10:09 they kind of humans of flat without the disproportions :) 17:10:19 anyway, there's a sticker sheet design and a banner design 17:10:40 im in the final stages on it now, just making some tweaks to the sticker sheet and will prep for print, hopefully will have them ordered in the next week or so 17:10:57 but the source artwork is there, if anybody wants to use the character designs in another project feel free 17:11:20 #info if anybody wants / needs character designs to use in Fedora materials, a set with source are in https://pagure.io/design/issue/637 17:11:21 meetbot.meeting.item.info -- duffy raised a point of information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "if anybody wants / needs character designs to use in Fedora materials, a set with source are in https://pagure.io/design/issue/637" 17:11:41 ok next ticket 17:11:42 https://pagure.io/design/issue/635 #635 Google Season of Docs Banner Image 17:11:42 meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://pagure.io/design/issue/635 #635 Google Season of Docs Banner Image" https://pagure.io/design/issue/635 17:11:50 this is gorgeous, I love how this came out :) 17:11:58 i think we're just waiting on feedback from the reporter, I'll ping him again 17:12:09 thank you :) 17:12:32 https://pagure.io/design/issue/634 #634 Digital sign to promote Fedora 30 17:12:32 meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://pagure.io/design/issue/634 #634 Digital sign to promote Fedora 30" https://pagure.io/design/issue/634 17:12:40 Shadows look great! 17:12:50 i think this should be closed, i dont know why i reopened it 17:13:21 yeh i think we're good. it's in rotation internally at red hat now 17:13:43 hey all :) 17:14:05 hey sam08 ! we're just doing triage now. but happy to break from that if you have any topics to raise 17:14:11 https://pagure.io/design/issue/633 #633 fedora gooey karma 17:14:11 meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://pagure.io/design/issue/633 #633 fedora gooey karma" https://pagure.io/design/issue/633 17:14:40 this one is a UI mockup, it had been closed but reopened this week i think with a request for some tweaks. i can do them but happy to leave them to anyone else if you are interested / want experience working on UI mocks 17:15:26 hey mizmo, i just came to help with tickets actually, i'll see if there's anything i can do :) 17:15:44 #info if anybody wants experience working on UI mocks, #633 has some minor tweaks that would be a good entry point, let mizmo know 17:15:44 meetbot.meeting.item.info -- duffy raised a point of information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "if anybody wants experience working on UI mocks, #633 has some minor tweaks that would be a good entry point, let mizmo know" 17:15:50 sam08 sweet :) 17:15:57 https://pagure.io/design/issue/632 #632 Banners and labels for Fedora 30 17:15:57 meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://pagure.io/design/issue/632 #632 Banners and labels for Fedora 30" https://pagure.io/design/issue/632 17:16:18 terezahl: i had one tweak suggestion on this and then i think you're set. does anybody else have feedback on the F30 release poster design? 17:16:36 yup, already started working on it 17:16:51 awesome :) 17:17:09 https://pagure.io/design/issue/631 #631 Certificate of appriciation 17:17:09 meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://pagure.io/design/issue/631 #631 Certificate of appriciation" https://pagure.io/design/issue/631 17:17:45 it looks like this one is on a bit of a legal hold 17:18:12 Sounds like it. I'll keep wrestling with the tool (forgot name of it now) that does easy mail-merge-type things. 17:18:26 glabels 🙂 love that app 17:18:36 im going to make a new tag for our tickets for something that is on external hold 17:18:40 I haven't parsed it fully yet. 17:18:44 Okay. Thakns! 17:18:45 not sure what to call it, maybe 'waiting' or something? 17:18:52 'blocked' how about that :) 17:19:19 Blocked sounds great! 17:19:31 okay :) 17:21:01 https://pagure.io/design/issue/629 #629 Need fresh Fedora presentation templates 17:21:01 meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://pagure.io/design/issue/629 #629 Need fresh Fedora presentation templates" https://pagure.io/design/issue/629 17:21:35 ok so this one - we have a LO version and a beamer version now. No GDocs version, i started one but not finished. But the final version won't be ready until the new logo is approved 17:21:48 They look great. 17:21:48 I think i'll keep it open and unblocked though bc we could use the GDocs template too 17:21:55 \o/ thanks :) 17:22:13 very excited for the new logo to make its debut. 17:22:32 pagure.issue.comment.added -- duffy commented on ticket design#629: "Need fresh Fedora presentation templates" https://pagure.io/design/issue/629#comment-571453 17:23:05 https://pagure.io/design/issue/618 #618 Need help building good examples for Fedora Bootstrap 17:23:05 meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://pagure.io/design/issue/618 #618 Need help building good examples for Fedora Bootstrap" https://pagure.io/design/issue/618 17:23:11 not sure if ojn is stil interested in this, will ask 17:23:27 pagure.issue.comment.added -- ignatenkobrain commented on ticket design#629: "Need fresh Fedora presentation templates" https://pagure.io/design/issue/629#comment-571457 17:23:48 https://pagure.io/design/issue/612 #612 Collate All Variants of Fedora Sticker 17:23:48 meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://pagure.io/design/issue/612 #612 Collate All Variants of Fedora Sticker" https://pagure.io/design/issue/612 17:23:56 so we asked the reporter about this one a month ago with no response 17:24:18 should we just close it with a note to reopen if anything still needed? 17:25:33 I'll trust your process here. 17:25:44 I think that makes sense 17:25:46 cool we'll just do that then 🙂 maybe will encourage reporter to reply back :) 17:25:51 :) 17:26:40 https://pagure.io/design/issue/601 17:26:40 meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://pagure.io/design/issue/601" 17:26:47 #601 Integrate CoreOS, Silverblue, and (new) IoT sites into overall scheme of websites 17:27:06 so we launched the new getfedora.org 17:27:13 so i think we're ok on this one, but ill ask reporter 17:27:44 Looks nice. Was good to see all the fedora types represented. 17:29:00 https://pagure.io/design/issue/596 17:29:00 meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://pagure.io/design/issue/596" 17:29:01 #596 Mockup request for IoT website 17:29:12 same for this one, asking reporter since new getfedora.org is out 17:29:55 The only thing there is clicking on IoT from the getfedora page doesn't still reflect the logo there. 17:30:05 Maybe just concerned with the front page? 17:30:08 https://pagure.io/design/issue/590 #590 F28 - Get rid of all Docker images and use Container instead 17:30:08 meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://pagure.io/design/issue/590 #590 F28 - Get rid of all Docker images and use Container instead" https://pagure.io/design/issue/590 17:30:13 ryanlerch took care of this one, so we can close for sure 17:30:45 https://pagure.io/design/issue/583 #583 Find and destroy old, outdated, bad swag and marketing collateral from the wiki 17:30:45 meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://pagure.io/design/issue/583 #583 Find and destroy old, outdated, bad swag and marketing collateral from the wiki" https://pagure.io/design/issue/583 17:30:54 we totally need someone to take this on lol 17:30:56 anyone enjoy demolition? 🙂 :) 17:31:35 mizmo, let me have a look at it 17:31:41 mizmo[m]: Is there a good way to know that something is obviously old/bad/"crufty"? 17:32:18 sam08: Go for it! 17:32:33 sam08 \o/ yay 17:32:45 K_REY_C oh yes, let's see 17:33:45 i suppose that anything containing the old logo will soon be deprecated, right? 17:33:53 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/Stickers the powered by fedora with the curve - its an ancient design. we have an updated versoin with the right fonts, TM markers, etc that goes straight across 17:33:53 meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/Stickers the powered by fedora with the curve - its an ancient design. we have an updated versoin with the right fonts, TM markers, etc that goes straight across" 17:33:54 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/Stickers 17:33:55 meetbot.meeting.item.link -- fm-design linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/Stickers" 17:34:33 the stickers further down on the page - four foundations, fedora certified - those are problematic bc the secondary fonts are wrong, and we also don't do certification as that has legal implications 17:34:47 probably that whole page should be nuked and replaced with more recent sticker designs 17:35:18 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_Fedora_flyer these ones are from as far back as Fedora Core 6.... just need to be nuked, too old 17:35:18 meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_Fedora_flyer these ones are from as far back as Fedora Core 6.... just need to be nuked, too old" https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_Fedora_flyer 17:35:22 you can tell based on the version number 17:35:24 Perfect. This seems tangentially related to https://pagure.io/design/issue/612 17:35:53 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Archive:Marketing_Fedora_banners?rd=Marketing/Banners the fonts and themes here are dated, the fc5 and fc6 designs are in there. anything that says "fedora core" gotta go 17:35:53 meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Archive:Marketing_Fedora_banners?rd=Marketing/Banners the fonts and themes here are dated, the fc5 and fc6 designs are in there. anything that says "fedora core" gotta go" 17:35:54 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Archive:Marketing_Fedora_banners?rd=Marketing/Banners 17:35:55 meetbot.meeting.item.link -- fm-design linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Archive:Marketing_Fedora_banners?rd=Marketing/Banners" 17:37:29 https://pagure.io/design/issue/582 #582 Create a list of approved swag 17:37:30 meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://pagure.io/design/issue/582 #582 Create a list of approved swag" https://pagure.io/design/issue/582 17:37:38 Thanks! That's helpful! Is there an archival process for older approved things (or is it just in the diff history of the wiki)? 17:37:54 i think maybe we should close this as it's related to tightly to the project terezahl is working on in the swag catalog https://pagure.io/design/issue/638 17:38:19 K_REY_C i think you can tag a page as being old and it'll get marked as out of date, but i dont have the wiki-foo to remember how to do that off the top of my head 17:38:26 mizmo, do i have a deadline for that? 17:38:35 sam08: ASAP but no rush :) 17:38:35 Okay. Thanks! 17:38:47 sam08: its all been out there for years so its not urgent but the sooner we can clean the better :) 17:38:49 mizmo, okay :) 17:39:57 https://pagure.io/design/issue/579 #579 Let's bring back pandas! (sticker sheet request) 17:39:57 meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://pagure.io/design/issue/579 #579 Let's bring back pandas! (sticker sheet request)" https://pagure.io/design/issue/579 17:40:08 I actually started working on this - 17:40:32 I went to prep it for print and found out akshay196 's SVGs had embedded bitmaps 17:40:41 so I Started digging into the badge SVGs to get the vector source 17:40:49 Fun! 17:40:56 ran into a snag though bc the badge artwork URLs are all messed up and not working anymore 17:41:03 there used to be a trick to get them to work and I couldn't figure it out 17:41:26 so i have to come up with a list of the needed pandas/badgers and send the broken URLs to the infra team and smooge said he'd try to help me get the right files 17:41:37 has anybody else run into this issue with old pagure attachments? 17:42:05 not really, tbh 17:42:17 Yes -- a while ago. Can't remember the workaround I used, but I did find one. For what it's worth I just downloaded akshay196 svg from that ticket and it worked. 17:42:35 K_REY_C the SVG works and opens, but the artwork inside it is bitmap not vector 17:43:09 Oh! Didn't look that close. Is there an actual SVG file attached anywhere (even a broken link?) 17:43:24 nope, so i had to dig through the badge system to get to them 17:43:29 let me grab an example broken url 17:43:37 Ok. Weird. 17:44:21 ok here's an example one: https://badges.fedoraproject.org/badge/we-can-do-it%21 17:44:40 so see under "We Can Do it" there is a "Criteria:" field with a badges pagure link 17:44:44 er fedorahosted lol 17:44:47 https://pagure.io/Fedora-Badges/issue/196 17:44:47 meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://pagure.io/Fedora-Badges/issue/196" 17:45:09 so the link for the SVG in the ticket is https://pagure.io/Fedora-Badges/issue/raw/files/422a0ca7b96d8d5d5e96b4e0c58b58b9f7311c781925583265589bd84b3ad619-we-can-do-it.svg 17:45:20 but that resolves as a 404 17:45:31 there used to be a trick, you drop the 'raw' or the 'files' or something in the url and it'd work 17:45:37 if I delete the 'files' it works for me! 17:45:41 but i tried every combination i could think of in the url 17:45:43 Okay. Remove files and it works: https://pagure.io/Fedora-Badges/issue/raw/files/422a0ca7b96d8d5d5e96b4e0c58b58b9f7311c781925583265589bd84b3ad619-we-can-do-it.svg 17:45:45 oh really??? 17:45:48 let me try again 17:45:51 i could have sworn i tried that 17:45:51 https://pagure.io/Fedora-Badges/issue/raw/422a0ca7b96d8d5d5e96b4e0c58b58b9f7311c781925583265589bd84b3ad619-we-can-do-it.svg 17:45:52 meetbot.meeting.item.link -- K_REY_C[m] linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://pagure.io/Fedora-Badges/issue/raw/422a0ca7b96d8d5d5e96b4e0c58b58b9f7311c781925583265589bd84b3ad619-we-can-do-it.svg" 17:46:05 i still get a 404 if i delete files :-/ 17:46:11 does this link work for you? https://pagure.io/Fedora-Badges/issue/raw/422a0ca7b96d8d5d5e96b4e0c58b58b9f7311c781925583265589bd84b3ad619-we-can-do-it.svg 17:46:31 wait K_REY_C yours worked for me. why does mine not work 17:46:33 That works for me. 17:46:42 something funky going on 17:46:44 also works 17:46:53 i wonder if its a browser cache issue 17:47:09 my link works in an incognito window 17:47:13 Maybe. Weird. 17:47:14 works for me as well 17:47:14 ok! well thats good 17:47:16 we solved that problem lol 17:47:17 :) 17:47:37 :) 17:47:40 all right 17:48:08 one more ticket, hten i have to run off a bit early because i have to run downstairs to help at intern orientation in the office here :) 17:48:27 https://pagure.io/design/issue/578 #578 Logo redesign for Fedora Community Blog 17:48:27 meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in the "design-team" meeting in #fedora-design: "https://pagure.io/design/issue/578 #578 Logo redesign for Fedora Community Blog" https://pagure.io/design/issue/578 17:48:55 looks like we can close it lol, the logo is already in place and i believe has been for some time 17:49:22 ok cool we got a lot triaged today 17:49:30 #topic open floor 17:49:30 meetbot.meeting.topic.update -- The topic of duffy's "design-team" meeting changed to "open floor" in #fedora-design 17:49:38 anything else to bring up before we close? 17:49:51 nope 17:49:53 not really :) 17:49:54 no 17:50:08 ok cool thanks for coming everybody :) 17:50:11 #endmeeting