17:31:06 <mizmo> #startmeeting Design Team Meeting 23 March 2022
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17:31:31 <mizmo> #meetingtopic open floor
17:31:33 <riecatnor[m]> .hi riecatnor
17:31:34 <zodbot> riecatnor[m]: Sorry, but user 'riecatnor [m]' does not exist
17:31:42 <mizmo> that was rude zodbot
17:31:48 <riecatnor[m]> very rude!
17:31:51 <riecatnor[m]> .hello riecatnor
17:31:51 <mizmo> .hello duffy
17:31:52 <zodbot> riecatnor[m]: riecatnor 'Marie Nordin' <mnordin@redhat.com>
17:31:55 <zodbot> mizmo: duffy 'Máirín Duffy' <fedora@linuxgrrl.com>
17:31:56 <riecatnor[m]> there it is
17:31:57 <mizmo> there we go
17:32:02 <riecatnor[m]> heh
17:32:11 <riecatnor[m]> the ticket I wanted to raise is 808 https://pagure.io/design/issue/808
17:32:31 <mizmo> #topic Ticket #808 Banner & Tablecloth Design
17:32:51 <mizmo> #meetingtopic Ticket #808 Banner & Tablecloth Design
17:32:57 <riecatnor[m]> we've been advised multiple times against the white banner :(
17:33:00 <riecatnor[m]> oops, white tablecloth*
17:33:05 <mizmo> #meetingtopic Ticket 808 Banner & Tablecloth design
17:33:38 <mizmo> #topic Ticket 808 Banner & Tablecloth design
17:33:45 * mizmo then gives up on topical organization of meeting minutes
17:33:51 <mizmo> Why advised against? gets dirty too easily?
17:34:13 <mizmo> #link https://pagure.io/design/issue/808
17:34:22 <riecatnor[m]> yeah, exactly.
17:34:31 <riecatnor[m]> I explained about making the kits and sending it around as well
17:35:22 <riecatnor[m]> I think we can do it, but might need to accept that they won't last as long as a blue one?
17:35:33 <mizmo> we could also just go with black
17:35:34 <riecatnor[m]> I am really fine with it either way. Blue seems more practical
17:35:36 <riecatnor[m]> oo
17:35:37 <mizmo> with the blue swag
17:35:46 <mizmo> (by swag i mean runner)
17:36:12 <riecatnor[m]> That could be nice!
17:36:44 <mizmo> i also dont know if the premium dye sub ones, could they do a solid color with the logo?
17:36:56 <mizmo> would they have the abiltiy to match cmyk for a while that is just two color, fedora blue and white
17:37:08 <mizmo> it would just be... probably a weird crunchy texture id guess
17:37:18 <mizmo> but maybe not i have some dye subliminated stuff thats ok
17:37:19 <riecatnor[m]> so, would it be possible to draft up a sketch of your vision Mo?
17:37:37 <riecatnor[m]> I think that would help me and the events people find the right items
17:37:56 <mizmo> so Madeline Peck has that ticket and was going to work on it, but we had a wallpaper situation this week and last so she's working on some urgent tasks related to that
17:38:04 <riecatnor[m]> understood
17:38:28 <mizmo> I will give her a heads up, I know the time is short on this. I can whip something up quick and sloppy after this meeting
17:38:36 <mizmo> on account of her being otherwise occupied
17:38:55 <riecatnor[m]> whatever works best-- quick and sloppy will prob do the job :)
17:39:33 <mizmo> so just so i understand / to clarify - i'll do a mockup of black tablecloth with fedora logo + blue runner, white tablecloth with fedora logo + blue runner, and maybe a mockup of what an all blue dye subliminated could look like?
17:39:51 <mizmo> (when we're talking about going with blue, is it the fabric color or is it the dye sub option?)
17:39:58 <riecatnor[m]> yes
17:40:01 <riecatnor[m]> and yes
17:40:14 <riecatnor[m]> oh, its a question lol, we can do both fabric or dye sub
17:40:15 <riecatnor[m]> oops
17:40:23 <mizmo> ok but they dont have swatches is that right?
17:40:28 <mizmo> for the fabric color
17:40:38 * mizmo looking at the vendor links from the mindshare ticket
17:40:59 <riecatnor[m]> here is the item
17:41:00 <riecatnor[m]> https://www.beaconpromotions.com/pl/Flat-4-sided-Table-Cover-fits-8-foot-standard-table:-Polyester/2558
17:41:17 <riecatnor[m]> thats for the standard print process
17:41:27 <mizmo> Pantone Matching
17:41:27 <mizmo> PMS Matching Fee (Per Match): $50.00 (G)
17:41:28 <mizmo> 
17:41:28 <mizmo> Guessing that's for the imprint and not the fabric
17:41:55 * riecatnor[m] uploaded an image: (144KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/fedora.im/b511d2e4b096590397b85d4304ce140007382ff0/Screenshot%20from%202022-03-23%2013-41-45.png >
17:42:02 <mizmo> oh!
17:42:02 <riecatnor[m]> here are the fabric colors for the item I just sent
17:42:17 <mizmo> how did i miss that lol sweet
17:42:31 <mizmo> i wonder what process blue is that looks promising
17:42:35 <riecatnor[m]> its an incredible small "View" text link
17:43:05 <mizmo> oh i see a process blue on my pantone book but i dont know if its the same
17:43:12 <riecatnor[m]> https://encycolorpedia.com/0085ca
17:43:26 <mizmo> ill figure this out with these swatches
17:43:26 <riecatnor[m]> the pantone book is prob more reliable
17:43:41 <mizmo> ill try to guessimtate which of the blue colors is best and have the mockup reflect it 👍️
17:43:55 <riecatnor[m]> awesome :D
17:43:55 <mizmo> I'll post to the design ticket or the mindshare ticket or both? Will have smtg for you by 5
17:44:01 <riecatnor[m]> design ticket
17:44:05 <riecatnor[m]> thank you!
17:44:21 <mizmo> Sweet. Got anything else?
17:44:43 <riecatnor[m]> https://pagure.io/design/issue/807#comment-787139
17:44:57 <riecatnor[m]> some new sketches for the bird character
17:45:06 <riecatnor[m]> the boots are cute!
17:45:29 <mizmo> Yes I am loving them 🙂 Jess told me earlier she couldn't make today's meeting, but I think she'd love some feedback on the latest.
17:45:39 <mizmo> My preference I think is for the first one of the new three
17:45:57 <riecatnor[m]> agreed, the third one feels a bit stiff in the wing currently, but that could be improved I think
17:46:04 <mizmo> I like the eyebrows and sneaks in that one. I pointed out to her his expression was a bit dour though, might be good for him to be more cheerful
17:46:22 <mizmo> like i think we had this idea of maybe the bird being kind of a calm/chill bird personality wise, so maybe a beatific kind of yogi smile LOL
17:46:40 <riecatnor[m]> I like the lighter color boots, over the dark
17:46:48 <mizmo> same
17:47:08 <riecatnor[m]> I think we should ask her to make svgs of these as well
17:47:15 <mizmo> and i think the approach she was thinking with these is to have the bird be more of a mascot, and the logo be its own self contained unit / logotype
17:47:21 <riecatnor[m]> I know that was something that we didn't get to for the last characters?
17:47:43 <riecatnor[m]> mizmo: I am up for this
17:47:47 <mizmo> i like this latest round of sketches because they are the closest to matching the style of Lauryn's mascots (beefy panda etc)
17:47:52 <riecatnor[m]> agreed!
17:48:10 <mizmo> Cool I'll post all this feedback in the ticket and +1 on the SVG format
17:48:39 <mizmo> Jess did a great job with the SVG vectors on the fedora gaming logo so I am pretty sure it won't be any issue
17:49:08 <mizmo> I had one other thing
17:49:14 <mizmo> Related to the aforementioned wallpaper stuff lol
17:49:38 <mizmo> So my apologies to the whole team, I made a pretty stupid mistake and misread the beta freeze date on our schedule as being 3-22 when it was in fact 2-22
17:49:43 <mizmo> and didn´t realize this until last week
17:50:18 <mizmo> and I did file a freeze exception, but I believe (not 100% sure) we didn't make it into F36 beta with Micah's newest renders because I think the latest RC candidate was looking pretty good. And default wallpaper is a blocker for final but not for beta.
17:51:09 <mizmo> So the thing that Madeline's been working on is an udpated blog post writeup of the latest on the f36 wallpaper, we are hoping to publish on her blog, then republish on the communtiy blog (need to schedule that) for more exposure, and push that out via social media & discourse to try to get as many eyes as possible on this new wallpaper version since it won´t ship OOTB in beta
17:51:15 <mizmo> so we can get some good final feedback before final
17:51:53 <mizmo> I am also looking at trying to schedule a test day for both the new default wallpaper & the light/dark ones we have new (will also be a post-beta update)
17:51:57 <mizmo> to try to account for them not making the beta
17:52:15 <riecatnor[m]> sounds like a plan! if I can help promoting that blog post, let me know
17:53:00 <mizmo> Definitely - I definitely plan to tweet something out on it and I think RTs from the Fedora account would be good. Is it worth doing instagram / facebook / anything else you think?
17:54:44 <riecatnor[m]> twitter is prob the best for this
17:55:00 <riecatnor[m]> we could try to hype it on discussion, I think we can pin it there
17:55:27 <mizmo> Ooh that would be great I didn't think of pinning it. Cool. I'll reach out to you when I have things needing to be RT'ed & pinned or what the best process?
17:55:35 <riecatnor[m]> also we can bring it to mindshare meeting, maybe council meeting if the timing works out
17:55:45 <mizmo> oh good idea
17:55:57 <riecatnor[m]> yep, just send me the tweet and I can RT from fedoras account
17:58:57 <mizmo> sweet ok. Well thanks @riecatnor for your time, this was pretty helpful 🙂 I will send out a meeting summary and start working on the tablecloth mocks 🙂
17:59:20 <riecatnor[m]> thank you, as well Máirín Duffy
17:59:25 <riecatnor[m]> have a great day!
18:01:16 <mizmo> you too!
18:01:17 <mizmo> #endmeeting