18:31:43 #startmeeting docs 18:31:43 Meeting started Wed Mar 22 18:31:43 2023 UTC. 18:31:43 This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 18:31:43 The chair is darknao. Information about MeetBot at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions. 18:31:43 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 18:31:43 The meeting name has been set to 'docs' 18:31:50 #topic Roll call 18:31:52 #chair pboy darknao pbokoc py0xc3[m] 18:31:52 Current chairs: darknao pbokoc pboy py0xc3[m] 18:35:10 seems like I'm going to be alone :/ 18:39:01 .hi 18:39:01 pboy: pboy 'Peter Boy' 18:39:27 hi pboy 18:39:40 Sorry, a bit lat today 18:40:16 no problem 18:40:22 let's start then 18:40:33 #topic Agenda 18:40:39 #link https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/docs-meeting-agenda-2023-03-22/79787 18:40:40 #info Announcements 18:40:43 #info Tickets flagged for meeting 18:40:45 #info Global ticket review 18:40:47 #info Quick docs update 18:40:49 #info Open Floor 18:40:51 #topic Announcements 18:40:55 #info F38 is planned for next month (2023-04-18) 18:40:58 #info We use GitLab to track work: https://gitlab.com/groups/fedora/docs/-/boards 18:41:40 #info DST change warning: the meeting is now at 18:30 UTC (1 hour earlier) 18:41:48 anything else? 18:42:04 nope 18:42:13 very well 18:42:19 #topic Tickets flagged for meeting 18:42:29 There is one item to review 18:42:42 #link https://gitlab.com/fedora/docs/community-tools/documentation-contributors-guide/-/merge_requests/73 18:43:14 reading .... 18:43:51 #link https://fedora.gitlab.io/-/docs/community-tools/documentation-contributors-guide/-/jobs/3978045132/artifacts/public/fedora-docs/contributing-docs/tools-web-ide-ui.html 18:43:54 for the preview 18:44:09 thanks! (for URL preview) 18:45:14 that looks nice 18:45:23 +1 to merge 18:45:33 Yes, looks weel done. 18:46:12 s/weel/well 18:46:27 Would you merge it? 18:46:30 yer 18:46:32 yes* 18:46:55 done 18:46:59 next topic 18:47:14 #topic Global ticket review 18:47:34 so, I wanted to do some global ticket review today, as we didn't do that in a long time 18:47:53 and we have a few tickets that needs update I think 18:47:59 Yes, we urgently have do do this 18:48:29 #link https://gitlab.com/groups/fedora/docs/-/issues/?sort=updated_asc&state=opened&first_page_size=20 18:49:12 #link https://gitlab.com/fedora/docs/docs-website/pages/-/issues/7 18:49:14 first one 18:49:38 Yes, the famous release notes 18:49:56 we have a few tickets like this, I was wondering if we should close them once it's done, then recreate one for the next release 18:50:07 or just rename this one and tag it for F39 18:50:24 We should definitely close those that are done.yes 18:51:16 alright 18:51:24 What is the current status regarding release notes? 18:52:02 this one is just about creating the branch, which is done 18:52:05 so closing 18:52:22 yes, same for the next issue, I think. 18:53:22 what guide do we have left here? 18:53:30 install guide is gone 18:53:37 sysadmin-guide I think 18:53:40 and that's it? 18:53:47 what about the third, updates? 18:54:02 hold on, I'm still on the second one 18:54:11 #link https://gitlab.com/fedora/docs/docs-website/pages/-/issues/8 18:54:22 OK 18:55:05 I think there is nothing to branch, maybe the outdated admin guide, we still didn't fully replace yet. 18:55:22 .hello hankuoffroad 18:55:24 hankuoffroad[m]: hankuoffroad 'None' 18:55:37 welcome hankuoffroad[m] 18:55:38 sorry, I'm late. 18:55:38 hi hankuoffroad[m] 18:55:52 pboy: yeah the sysadmin guide is the only one left 18:56:30 #link https://gitlab.com/fedora/docs/docs-website/pages/-/issues/9 18:57:01 don't know for this one, is there anything to update on this guide for release? 18:57:20 I think, that is very specific to editions It is their task. 18:57:41 I'm just writing a note for Server 18:58:05 note this is for the guide we maintain, not the edition ones 18:58:12 so basically, the sysadmin guide 18:58:25 just like the previous ticket 18:58:46 OK, but we don't maintain the admin guide anymore. But are to replace it. 18:59:09 so nothing to update then 18:59:13 that's fine for me 18:59:19 We have to update our release page, og course. 18:59:29 s/og/of 19:00:03 But there is not much to update 19:01:02 just to be sure, what release page are you reffering to? 19:01:45 Our docs "release home page", wait ... 19:02:04 #link https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora/latest/ 19:02:33 that one. 19:02:53 How will we do the update? (e.g. changing the release number, link to release notes, etc.) 19:04:24 I think I've already done the update https://gitlab.com/fedora/docs/fedora-linux-documentation/release-docs-home/-/commits/f38 19:04:29 but it's not published yet 19:05:23 so this is the next 2 tickets: 19:05:29 #link https://gitlab.com/fedora/docs/docs-website/pages/-/issues/10 19:05:39 #link https://gitlab.com/fedora/docs/docs-website/pages/-/issues/11 19:06:02 Still ad updates: Did you adjust the text? 19:06:02 We usually create the pull request for those, then merge them at release day 19:07:21 OK, so I would modify the text in my current local repo as usual? 19:07:45 yes, just use the new f38 branch 19:08:09 OK, I check it later and ask, if I have a question. 19:08:34 #link https://gitlab.com/fedora/docs/docs-website/pages/-/issues/12 19:09:01 we can keep this one for now, we will create the F39 related tickets after the release 19:09:11 no rush for it 19:09:38 OK. 19:09:46 sure 19:10:00 the next one is a task related to this ticket 19:10:05 #link https://gitlab.com/fedora/docs/fedora-linux-documentation/release-docs-home/-/issues/4 19:10:14 about the install guide 19:10:39 Yes, I'm still in the process. ..... 19:11:14 There must exist a ticket about this that is assigned to me 19:11:30 yes, this one :) 19:12:08 so it's in progress, we can move on the next one 19:12:21 #link https://gitlab.com/fedora/docs/docs-website/pages/-/issues/18 19:12:26 yes, it's in progress 19:13:10 We have to postpone it (18) 19:13:13 the linked ticket has been closed, and the associated MR merged 19:13:35 is there anything that need to be done here? 19:13:58 or close it and reopen if we need to revisit something? 19:14:12 yes, I have to write a summary of our discussion 19:14:21 did i close it incorrectly? 19:14:32 Maybe, but no problem. 19:15:12 Maybe, we close this topic and open a new one when we have something to discuss and to decide 19:15:22 fine to me 19:15:24 topic = related tickets 19:15:29 darknao: ok 19:15:44 why not creating a discussion topic on discourse instead? 19:16:02 seems more appropriate than a ticket, right? 19:16:39 We did that some tme ago. And I have to write a sumary and 2-3 specific proposals what to decide. 19:17:01 Yes, a I open a new thread,when I'm ready 19:17:08 ok 19:17:47 we have 15 minutes left, so let's move to the other 2 remaining topics for today 19:18:00 #topic Quick docs update 19:18:12 darknao: to open issue ticket, we need to raise it on discussion? 19:18:21 anything related to QD to discuss? 19:18:42 OK, I finally did resume my work on QD and did some PRs, issues, etc 19:18:57 hankuoffroad[m]: no need, but this one seems specific about having a discussion, so I'm not sure a ticket is the right place for that 19:19:01 I have a minor technical issue 19:19:22 darknao: got iy 19:19:25 it 19:20:00 hankuoffroad[m]: you'll have more involvment in a discussion topic than in a gitlab ticket than only a few reads 19:20:45 pboy: we are listening :) 19:20:47 yes, but at the ende of a discussion you often need a ticket to systematize the outcome. 19:20:58 Ad technical: 19:21:06 In Quickdoc local authoring & preview (on a Fedora server) the title "Category" shows up, but no category item and no tags. On the published page they do. 19:21:29 Is it just my Fedora release, or a systematic issue. And how to fix it? 19:22:22 the category systems don't show up on local preview 19:22:22 I tested it with a fresh cloned repo. 19:22:45 OK, so it is systematic and by design? 19:22:53 systematic yes 19:22:58 OK. 19:23:16 they are requirements that are only in the main docs repo (plugins) 19:23:22 pboy: will do. So far, I got easily absorbed and overwhelmed (or underwhelmed when silent) by discussion. So I like focused and small issue to be tracked...I realize I missed process to discuss, sometimes, 19:23:39 and adding that the local preview make it way too complicated than it already is 19:24:17 hankuoffroad[m] I just worked all you additions to the various docs. I think, they are great. 19:24:37 Maybe I have some suggestions, in the next week or so. 19:24:58 s/worked/followed/ 19:25:24 pboy: thanks. 19:25:29 5 min left, do you have anything for open floor, or should we stay in QD topic? 19:25:45 nothing open floor from mw 19:26:30 not really. I'm off for holiday with my family 27 - 31 March. Will slow down for a bit. 19:26:55 have a nice holiday hankuoffroad[m] :) 19:27:07 Regarding QD: we have 2 rather compless problems / issue, the local authoring description and eben more complex all that installing software. 19:27:55 We should put them a bit back for the moment, until we resolved all or at least most of the nitpics 19:29:48 ok 19:30:22 we reach the end of the meeting, but we can discuss about that next time if needed 19:30:41 sure, thank to all. 19:30:51 thanks everyone for today, and see you all next time 19:30:57 #endmeeting