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18:31:44 <darknao> #topic Roll call
18:31:46 <darknao> #chair pboy darknao pbokoc py0xc3[m]
18:31:46 <zodbot> Current chairs: darknao pbokoc pboy py0xc3[m]
18:32:05 <py0xc3naatMatrix> .hi py0xc3
18:32:07 <zodbot> py0xc3naatMatrix: Sorry, but user 'py0xc3naatMatrix' does not exist
18:32:11 <pboy> .hi
18:32:11 <zodbot> pboy: pboy 'Peter Boy' <pboy@uni-bremen.de>
18:32:15 <hankuoffroadPTO2> .hello hankuoffroad
18:32:16 <zodbot> hankuoffroadPTO2: hankuoffroad 'None' <allegrovelo@gmail.com>
18:32:25 <py0xc3naatMatrix> .hello py0xc3
18:32:26 <zodbot> py0xc3naatMatrix: py0xc3 'Christopher Klooz' <py0xc3@my.mail.de>
18:35:35 <darknao> hi everyone o/
18:35:40 <darknao> #topic Agenda
18:35:42 <py0xc3naatMatrix> Hi :)
18:35:45 <darknao> #link https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/docs-meeting-agenda-2023-04-12/80783
18:35:47 <darknao> #info Announcements
18:35:49 <darknao> #info Quick docs update
18:35:51 <darknao> #info Docs logo & Website 3.0 update
18:35:53 <darknao> #info Open Floor
18:35:55 <darknao> #topic Announcements
18:36:01 <darknao> #info F38 Final freeze is underway
18:36:03 <darknao> #info F38 target date is next week (2023-04-18)
18:36:05 <darknao> #info F38 GO/NO-GO meeting is tomorrow
18:36:07 <darknao> #info We use GitLab to track work: https://gitlab.com/groups/fedora/docs/-/boards
18:36:09 <darknao> anything more to add here?
18:36:36 <hankuoffroadPTO2> no
18:36:48 <py0xc3naatMatrix> not from my side
18:36:55 <darknao> ok, next topic then
18:37:00 <darknao> #topic Quick docs update
18:37:26 <darknao> Anything to report / review on Quick Docs side?
18:37:33 <pboy> still nothing from me,
18:38:11 <pboy> working, but nothing ready to discuss
18:38:25 <darknao> ok, next topic then?
18:38:25 * jwf waves
18:38:41 <darknao> #topic Docs logo & Website 3.0 update
18:38:58 <darknao> that's hankuoffroadPTO2 topic :)
18:39:19 <darknao> So I can already answer a few questions here:
18:39:32 <darknao> Yes, you can use the new docs logo for your slides
18:39:57 <darknao> (or anything else related to the Fedora Documentation)
18:40:07 <hankuoffroadPTO2> ok peartown kindly submitted the new logo and design team updated it.
18:40:15 <hankuoffroadPTO2> darknao: ok, thanks
18:40:39 <hankuoffroadPTO2> > * <@jflory7:fedora.im> waves
18:40:39 <hankuoffroadPTO2> hello
18:40:46 <darknao> as for the new website, and DecapCMS:
18:40:59 <hankuoffroadPTO2> https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/fedora-websites-3-0-release/80712
18:41:47 <darknao> so DecapCMS, previously named NetlifyCMS, is a content managment used exclusively for the fedoraproject.org website content
18:42:00 <darknao> it'll not be used for the Documentation
18:42:12 <darknao> the authoring tool we are using here stay the same
18:42:59 <hankuoffroadPTO2> darknao: glad to know. I was mistaken.
18:43:08 <darknao> there were no content managment before for the getfedora (and other) websites, so people had to write html code directly
18:43:49 <darknao> Now it should be easier for edition owner (and anyone else) to write new content and update the website, without having to deal with html code, css and stuff
18:43:52 <hankuoffroadPTO2> I understand.
18:44:17 <darknao> good :) Any other questions on that topic?
18:44:51 <hankuoffroadPTO2> darknao: No, as clear as day
18:45:11 <darknao> great
18:45:18 <darknao> so guess it's time for
18:45:22 <darknao> #topic Open Floor
18:46:22 <darknao> anything you want to talk about?
18:48:12 <darknao> nothing?
18:48:18 <py0xc3naatMatrix> Just a question about the open tickets: does someone has an eye on the changes for F38? Beyond new new branches, I think last time there were issues with release notes and such? (The three "internal" tickets in triage were intended to tackle that but I was not really involved)
18:48:45 <darknao> as far as I know, all F38 branches have been created
18:49:06 <darknao> MR to push F38 on the docs site is ready to be merged at release day
18:49:09 <py0xc3naatMatrix> yes, the branches are there except the install guide repo. But I think the latter is no longer on the Docs pages anyway (?)
18:49:26 <darknao> there is no install-guide anymore
18:49:28 <pboy> no
18:50:00 <py0xc3naatMatrix> In that case I would close the tickets in the next days and re-open them as soon as new milestones are created if that makes sense
18:50:56 <pboy> I'm in the process to create the new admin tool collection, that includes parts of the old install guide.
18:51:29 <pboy> py0xc3naatMatrix perhaps you can wait 1-2 weeks, so I can review them.
18:51:31 <py0xc3naatMatrix> In that case, nothing else from my side ;) I'm mostly a reader today to get updated of what happened in the recent months :D
18:51:57 <py0xc3naatMatrix> Ok. Its nothing urgent obviously.
18:52:34 <py0xc3naatMatrix> I assign us two, and ask again when the new milestones are there as future reminder.
18:52:47 <pboy> OK.
18:53:24 <hankuoffroadPTO2> <darknao> "anything you want to talk about?" <- Just to give you a heads up for completion date of video tutorial, I need two more weeks, which will be done by 30 April. Delay is not ideal, but video recording has lots of variables.
18:54:17 <darknao> hankuoffroadPTO2: should not be an issue, take your time :)
18:55:12 <hankuoffroadPTO2> darknao: thanks, with my low-specced laptop, it is a fine balance to produce good quality recording..had to tweak settings
18:57:10 <hankuoffroadPTO2> I have a question on Flock.
18:58:14 <darknao> go ahead
18:58:29 <hankuoffroadPTO2> While I'm still new to the community and okay with virtual contributions, the in person event like Flock is hard to refuse.
18:58:45 <pboy> +1
19:00:21 <hankuoffroadPTO2> There is a cost and time involved for all who organize and attend the event. What is the policy for the cost? Is it all paid by each attendee?
19:01:06 <hankuoffroadPTO2> and it is relatively close to where I live, not in driving distance. but a short flight from UK
19:01:58 <hankuoffroadPTO2> or is there some budget that can be allocated to project team?
19:02:02 <darknao> I've never attended Flock in person, but I think you need to cover your own cost
19:02:22 <darknao> but since jwf is around :) maybe you can tell us more about this?
19:06:00 <pboy> I've heard there are limited opportunities for grants, at least for presenters.  But that is very vague.
19:06:08 <pboy> Regardless, we should consider how we can / want to contribute as a docs team.
19:06:18 <py0xc3naatMatrix> Maybe this is worth to be put into a topic in discussions ?
19:06:29 <hankuoffroadPTO2> pboy: yes,
19:06:34 <darknao> +1
19:06:47 <darknao> (for pboy and py0xc3naatMatrix)
19:06:58 <py0xc3naatMatrix> That question might be interesting and relevant for others as well, and there are all people that are involved in these decisions
19:07:36 <py0xc3naatMatrix> * That question might be interesting and relevant for others as well, and on discussion.fp are all people that are involved in these decisions
19:08:05 <pboy> I intend to join this year, If it actually takes place, by the way.
19:08:47 <py0xc3naatMatrix> When is it? (I only know its in Cork so far :)
19:09:00 <darknao> #link https://flocktofedora.org/
19:09:07 <py0xc3naatMatrix> thx
19:09:08 <darknao> 2 to 5 of August
19:09:19 <darknao> 2 to 4 sorry
19:09:42 <hankuoffroadPTO2> darknao: will still be cold in Ireland in August
19:09:57 <py0xc3naatMatrix> Cannot say for sure yet, but since Cork is close I will check if it will be possible.
19:10:24 <pboy> hankuoffroadPTO2. still or again?
19:10:50 <hankuoffroadPTO2> pboy: my summer PTO is in July.
19:11:17 <pboy> hm, whatever PTO is
19:12:01 <pboy> My translator  is silent. :-)
19:12:40 <darknao> I'm not sure if I'll have any days off for that period, but it's close so maybe I'll try to go
19:12:40 <hankuoffroadPTO2> ah I thought you were asking my holiday (paid time off)
19:12:58 <pboy> Oh, thanks. :-)
19:13:11 <hankuoffroadPTO2> darknao: sounds good.
19:15:42 <hankuoffroadPTO2> <py0xc3naatMatrix> "Maybe this is worth to be put..." <- could do.
19:16:57 <hankuoffroadPTO2> do you want me to post the ideas to Discussion?
19:17:14 <pboy> ankuoffroadPTO2>
19:17:48 <pboy> sorry, I mean   hankuoffroadPTO2 yes please
19:18:10 <hankuoffroadPTO2> pboy: ah notice my display name still shows old one. even through I deleted my PTO thing
19:18:14 <py0xc3naatMatrix> Feel free, you seem to be already involved in the topic, but if you want I can do it also tomorrow.
19:18:41 <hankuoffroadPTO2> will write it after the meeting.
19:19:47 <hankuoffroadPTO2> that's all from me
19:22:29 <darknao> ok, if nothing else, I think we can end the meeting
19:22:43 <pboy> agreed
19:22:52 <darknao> thanks everyone for today!
19:23:12 <darknao> #endmeeting