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15:00:50 <oranod> @room Meeting time! Who is here to talk the docs?
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15:01:07 <oranod> General run of the meeting - We go over action items, give docs updates.. maybe have a topic or two, and go over doctooling updates (all the fun stuff behind the scenes that get us docs.ansible.com!)
15:01:07 <oranod> #info meeting agenda at https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/678#issuecomment-1549686517
15:01:56 <sutapa_b[m]> o/
15:02:02 <TVo[m]> Hello!
15:02:05 <oranod> #chair sutapa_b
15:02:05 <zodbot> Current chairs: oranod sutapa_b
15:02:13 <oranod> #chair TVo
15:02:13 <zodbot> Current chairs: TVo oranod sutapa_b
15:02:23 <oranod> hey TVo and sutapa_b !
15:02:28 <oranod> hope you're both doing well
15:03:09 <sutapa_b[m]> I'm doing good.
15:03:13 <oranod> amazing weather here (west of Ireland) and I was having coffee in the garden enjoying the sun a few mins ago. feels so good to have some fine weather for a change.
15:03:25 <oranod> nice to hear that sutapa_b
15:03:33 <sutapa_b[m]> TY, how are you?
15:03:47 <oranod> I'm doing well, cheers
15:04:02 <TVo[m]> Good!
15:04:24 <oranod> sutapa_b: I've got a couple of agenda items but is there anything you wanted to bring forward to start us off?
15:04:45 <acozine> I'll be a bit late
15:04:51 <acozine> (later, that is)
15:04:55 <oranod> no worries acozine hello!
15:05:10 <sutapa_b[m]> not really you can start.
15:05:23 <Dule_Martins0383> Hi
15:05:47 <oranod> ok, cool. sutapa_b just thought I'd give you the chance if you had something
15:05:52 <oranod> hi Dule_Martins#0383 welcome!
15:05:56 <oranod> hope you're keeping well
15:06:27 <Dule_Martins0383> Hey Don Naro, All Good just some stress from job hunting
15:06:50 <Dule_Martins0383> Miss everyone here, heard samcann (@_discord_930864645756035143:ansible.im) is on Vac
15:06:58 <oranod> yeah Dule_Martins#0383 I bet that is stressful but good luck with it!
15:07:26 <oranod> indeed samccann is taking some time away but will be back with us soon
15:07:56 <oranod> #info we all miss samccann and look forward to her return
15:08:05 <Dule_Martins0383> Thanks Mate
15:08:36 <Dule_Martins0383> Ya sure, so what are we talking about today
15:08:49 <oranod> well, a number of things
15:09:00 <oranod> #agenda updates on documentation work
15:09:33 <oranod> s/agenda/topic/
15:10:16 <oranod> #info quick update on core 2.15 doc publishing. I've been waiting on a backport to stable-2.15 but that should be merged shortly and I'll get the docs published and updated
15:10:44 <felixfontein> o/
15:10:59 <oranod> not sure if anyone has noticed that or not but core 2.15 was released yesterday but I'm still waiting to get docs publishing done. fingers crossed here soon.
15:11:07 <Dule_Martins0383> Welcome felixfontein
15:11:09 <oranod> #chair felixfontein Dule_Martins#0383
15:11:09 <zodbot> Current chairs: Dule_Martins#0383 TVo felixfontein oranod sutapa_b
15:11:32 <oranod> sorry I forgot to chair you earlier Dule_Martins#0383 I need to work on my meeting hashtag game
15:11:54 <Dule_Martins0383> lol! that's fine Don Naro
15:12:06 <Dule_Martins0383> What are my duties as chair?
15:13:03 <oranod> #info docsite update PR at: https://github.com/ansible/docsite/pull/171 - this adds the `ansible_community.html` page that we've talked about in previous meetings to fix a "gap" in one of the pages that is deprecated with the new docsite. but analytics seem to indicate there are people still hitting that page from bookmarks.
15:13:34 <oranod> #info that docsite PR also updates the "oldsite" controller pages for 4.2.2 TVo
15:14:07 <oranod> Dule_Martins#0383: no duties as such as chair. it's just a way to recognize the time you spend here. plus you can use the meeting commands / hashtags.
15:14:17 <acozine> o/
15:14:34 <oranod> #chair acozine
15:14:34 <zodbot> Current chairs: Dule_Martins#0383 TVo acozine felixfontein oranod sutapa_b
15:14:49 <Dule_Martins0383> Oh cool  o/
15:14:59 <acozine> everyone's furniture around here ;)
15:15:40 <oranod> #info last week we also talked about the old tower page at: https://docs.ansible.com/ansible-tower/index.html - I've looked into that but still need to figure out if it is automatically updated/generated from a repo somewhere or not.
15:16:48 <acozine> @tvo do you know where that comes from?
15:17:35 <acozine> I would have guessed from the old static docsite repo, but I don't have access to that any more to confirm or deny.
15:17:51 <TVo[m]> It comes from the docsite repo
15:18:21 <TVo[m]> docsite>oldsite
15:19:00 <TVo[m]> Don Naro: correct
15:19:02 <Dule_Martins0383> So @tvo you are saying the old tower page is automatically updated from the docsite repo
15:19:39 <Dule_Martins0383> if so, Don Naro, what were your expectation of the docs from the old tower page?
15:19:53 <TVo[m]> Dule_Martins#0383: Not anymore, it used to be before we switched it over to automation-controller
15:20:19 <TVo[m]> We don't need that anymore; it's old and obsolete
15:20:26 <Dule_Martins0383> Ooh! Thanks on that @tvo
15:21:37 <oranod> TVo: did it come from https://github.com/ansible/docsite at some point in the past?
15:22:14 <oranod> or was it another old repo that I don't know about?
15:23:11 <TVo[m]> Don Naro: It came from there, docsite repo
15:24:22 <oranod> ok, thanks. I probably just didn't go far enough back in the logs. good to confirm that so thanks again.
15:24:25 <TVo[m]> Don Naro: https://github.com/ansible/docsite/pull/63
15:24:44 <TVo[m]> This PR ^ was when I changed it to what it is now
15:26:06 <TVo[m]> But the tower sitemaps never got deleted so people must still be landing there.
15:26:10 <oranod> awesome. thanks for that. so it's as I expected and probably just need to ssh into the web server and replace that ansible-tower.html page (or nuke it and create a redirect).
15:27:06 <TVo[m]> Whatever makes sense, but we don't need people to keep going to that old page since the archives have the old versions of the tower docs.
15:27:24 <oranod> indeed
15:27:53 <oranod> just didn't want to make the change and then have it get reverted with some automatic update out there.
15:28:06 <oranod> I need to get better at grepping through git logs
15:28:54 <Dule_Martins0383> Don Naro, can you guide me into fixing that nuke and ssh you want to do so people don't need to keep going to that old page.
15:29:24 <oranod> #info community execution environments. what is missing? this was a topic that was brought up at some previous meetings. there has been an update since that I thought would be relevant.
15:30:04 <oranod> #info andersson007_ from the community team is working on https://github.com/ansible-community/community-team/issues/230 to make some improvements to the state of things with community ee's
15:30:59 <felixfontein> \o/
15:31:06 <felixfontein> that's awesome!
15:31:07 <oranod> Dule_Martins#0383: I'd be more than happy to but, unfortunately, I think access to the web server I mentioned is restricted to Red Hat
15:31:29 <Dule_Martins0383> Ooops! Thanks for the info
15:31:55 <oranod> maybe there is some other way though. I'd be open to sharing the steps and walking you through it if you're interesting. and - hopefully - we'll be opening up more of the publishing process soon.
15:32:08 <oranod> Dule_Martins#0383: you're welcome!
15:32:17 <Dule_Martins0383> Ok Don, I am
15:32:45 <Dule_Martins0383> Always more than happy to get my hands dirty with docs issues
15:33:16 <oranod> felixfontein: yeah I think it's a great initiative and wanted to share it. docs plays a major part in that epic so I imagine we'll have some contributor opportunities there soon
15:34:03 <oranod> acozine: any updates on the cheatsheet from last week?
15:34:03 <Dule_Martins0383> The community writer project board hasn't been update with docs issues for some time now
15:34:30 <acozine> Don Naro: I havne't seen any cheatsheet PRs
15:34:41 <acozine> Dule_Martins#0383: is that something you'd be interested in working on?
15:34:58 <Dule_Martins0383> so, what if Don Naro we can add issue there for other member of this community to make their contribution.
15:35:18 <Dule_Martins0383> Yes @acozine
15:36:20 <acozine> Dule_Martins#0383: here's the ticket: https://github.com/ansible/ansible/issues/75509
15:36:58 <acozine> Here's an example PR: https://github.com/ansible/ansible/pull/76655
15:37:02 <Dule_Martins0383> Alright, let me go through it!
15:37:09 <oranod> #link here is the ticket for doc issues to add command cheatsheets:  https://github.com/ansible/ansible/issues/75509
15:37:18 <sutapa_b[m]> I'm also interested acozine
15:37:32 <acozine> fantastic!
15:37:56 <oranod> indeed! that's great sutapa_b and Dule_Martins#0383 thank you both
15:37:59 <acozine> here's hte docs page as it stands now: https://docs.ansible.com/ansible/latest/command_guide/cheatsheet.html
15:38:17 <Dule_Martins0383> @sutapa_b we can do this together I guess
15:38:47 <acozine> if someone has a link handy for the community docs board, I think I can add that issue to it
15:38:58 <sutapa_b[m]> Dule_Martins#0383: sure we can
15:39:50 <oranod> #link community writers project board https://github.com/orgs/ansible-community/projects/3
15:40:20 <acozine> ooh, that's a lot of merged PRs . . . nice work, folks!
15:40:36 <Dule_Martins0383> #link https://github.com/orgs/ansible-community/projects/3/views/1
15:41:17 <Dule_Martins0383> On behave of the community writer I smile @acozine
15:42:14 <oranod> #info the Steampunk project has added complete documentation for all versions of all Ansible Collections that exist on Ansible Galaxy! You can find it here: https://docs.steampunk.si/plugins/
15:42:14 <acozine> I added that issue to the community writers board
15:42:22 <oranod> thanks acozine !
15:42:28 <acozine> I wasn't sure if I should mark it git branch required or not
15:42:48 <acozine> it'll probably be easier in branches, but could be done on GitHub
15:43:05 <Dule_Martins0383> You should add it @acozine
15:43:27 <acozine> okay, done
15:45:02 <oranod> #topic open floor
15:45:35 <oranod> think it's time to open it up. anyone got something they want to share? or questions to ask?
15:46:07 <Dule_Martins0383> Yap I do
15:46:14 <Dule_Martins0383> about Ansiblefest
15:47:38 <oranod> I'll try to answer what I can about Ansiblefest
15:48:32 <Dule_Martins0383> Last year, we were given the chance to speak at the contributors  for AnsibleFest, how about this year? will such happen?
15:50:07 <oranod> yeah I remember that last year. it was really great. I don't have an agenda I can share with everything that is planned but Ansiblefest is combined with Red Hat Summit and is taking place next week.
15:50:27 <acozine> cybette can probably tell us more
15:50:27 <oranod> I'm sure there definitely will be opportunities at other Ansible contributor summits though
15:50:45 <Dule_Martins0383> * the contributors summit for AnsibleFest,
15:51:15 <Dule_Martins0383> Cool, thanks for headups
15:51:34 <acozine> I don't think there will be a contributor summit, I'm not sure when the next Contrib Summit will be
15:51:47 <acozine> I meant, there won't be one at Fest/Summit
15:51:54 <acozine> there will be more in future, but not next week
15:51:56 <felixfontein> oh, why?
15:52:06 <felixfontein> ah, it's already next week?
15:52:21 <felixfontein> yeah, then it's unlikely there is one :)
15:52:22 <cybette_> Unfortunately this time it's fully in-person, and it's Ansible Community Day as part of Red Hat Summit / AnsibleFest. We plan on having additional Ansible Contributor Summits later in the year where online participation is possible.
15:52:50 <cybette_> (since we had one earlier this year in February)
15:53:22 <felixfontein> will recordings be available later on?
15:53:30 <felixfontein> (and is there a schedule somewhere what will happen at it?)
15:53:52 <cybette_> Schedule is here https://hackmd.io/@ansible-community/ACD2023-Boston
15:54:00 <acozine> I expect there will be fewer Ansible folks there - when Fest was a standalone conference everyone was there for Ansible, but at Summit there will be a lot of people who haven't used Ansible before
15:54:18 <cybette_> We will have at least audio recording and we plan to share that with slides.
15:54:21 <acozine> plus it's earlier than the usual date (Fest traditionally was in September/October; Summit is in May)
15:55:00 <cybette_> yeah the schedule was quite challenging to work with
15:55:32 <cybette_> however, it gives us more flexibility to do something more community focused in second half of the year, so please stay tuned :)
15:55:53 <oranod> thanks cybette
15:55:58 <Dule_Martins0383> Cool, cybette (@_discord_697498573712916482:ansible.im)
15:57:56 <oranod> ok I think we can probably call it there. this was a nice meeting with a lot of chat so thanks to everyone for coming along.
15:58:03 <oranod> #endmeeting