#meeting:fedoraproject.org log

<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>

20:00:51

!startmeeting ELN SIG 06 Feb 2025

<@meetbot:fedora.im>

20:00:52

Meeting started at 2025-02-06 20:00:51 UTC

<@meetbot:fedora.im>

20:00:52

The Meeting name is 'ELN SIG 06 Feb 2025'

<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>

20:01:02

!meetingname eln

<@meetbot:fedora.im>

20:01:03

The Meeting Name is now eln

<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>

20:01:10

!topic Init process

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

20:01:58

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

20:01:59

Troy Dawson (tdawson)

<@nhanlon:beeper.com>

20:03:06

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

20:03:07

Neil Hanlon (neil) - he / him / his

<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>

20:03:26

hi Troy Dawson Neil Hanlon

<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>

20:04:34

Davide Cavalca Michel Lind 🎩 UTC-6 Conan Kudo are you around?

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

20:04:46

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

20:04:56

Neal Gompa (ngompa) - he / him / his

<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>

20:05:16

great timing 😁

<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>

20:05:57

I guess we'll get started and hopefully the others will join us

<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>

20:06:15

!topic New business

<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>

20:07:07

!info f42 branched on Tuesday, all ELN-related activities around that were completed, with the possible exception of resigning of packages with the new key

<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>

20:07:30

!info composes are currently accepting both f42 and f43 sigs in the meantime

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

20:07:51

resigning should be also all done. ;) should change pungi config to new key at your leasure.

<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>

20:08:24

thanks nirik

<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>

20:09:05

!action yselkowitz to update pungi config to use only the f43 signature key

<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>

20:09:39

!info mass rebuild cleanup is continuing, still work to be done

<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>

20:10:02

!link 70+ packages in ELN set are still F42FTBFS: https://github.com/fedora-eln/eln/issues/218

<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>

20:10:29

!link 36 ELN Extras packages are still F42FTBFS: https://github.com/fedora-eln/eln/issues/219

<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>

20:10:43

!link just a few ELN-specific build failures remaining: https://github.com/fedora-eln/eln/issues/221

<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>

20:11:05

any questions or discussion on that?

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

20:12:16

It's looking much better than I expected.

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

20:12:47

There's still some GCC 15 fallout to deal with, but progress is being made.

<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>

20:14:27

one ELN-specific failure I wanted to call out: https://pagure.io/fedpkg/issue/589

<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>

20:16:18

anything further on any of this?

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

20:17:51

If I wanted to resubmit a build, how are we doing it nowdays?

<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>

20:18:07

resubmit a build to ELN or rawhide?

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

20:18:11

ELN

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

20:18:43

Let's say I see that fedpkg scratch builds are now building, would I just submit the build to the ELN build target? Is that ok?

<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>

20:19:22

for a one-off build that doesn't need the whole bootstrapping that EBS does, that's fine (e.g. `fedpkg --release eln build`)

<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>

20:20:13

if it's a bunch of packages or you do need everything that EBS provides, we have a way to re-trigger packages in EBS, but it's behind the firewall

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

20:20:47

<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>

20:21:20

any other new issues that anyone wants to raise today?

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

20:21:28

None from me

<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>

20:22:27

in that case...

<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>

20:22:33

!topic Old business

<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>

20:23:26

going forward, I would like to spend some time reviewing existing tickets on our tracker, in the hope that we can start making some progress on (some of) them

<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>

20:23:39

!link https://github.com/fedora-eln/eln/issues/30

<@nirik:matrix.scrye.com>

20:24:45

another note, I wasn't aware or forgot, but eln cloud images should be available now for your cloud eln needs. Sorry we didn't note it when it was setup.

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

20:25:22

Very nice

<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>

20:25:34

!info ELN cloud images are now available for testing in AWS and Azure

<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>

20:26:00

the issue for that was closed accordingly, but thanks for reminding me to note it

<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>

20:28:41

back to #30, what's left here is to add the running of dist-git tests on ELN for rawhide PRs (ELN scratch builds are already being done)

<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>

20:30:27

I'm not sure how exactly that would be implemented, unfortunately there is no link pointing as to how the scratch builds were enabled

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

20:31:12

I'm not even sure what dist-git tests are. Miro seemed to know.

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

20:31:39

Are they seperate tests that reside in dist-git?

<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>

20:32:05

let me find an example

<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>

20:32:45

e.g. https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/util-linux/pull-request/20

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

20:33:45

Oh, all those Zuul tests being done there.

<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>

20:34:03

not every package has this, but those that enable Zuul CI, it runs various tests which can be defined in the repo (STI/FMF, although iiuc STI is deprecated?)

<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>

20:34:22

along with running scratch builds, which is now does for eln alongside rawhide

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

20:34:37

Are those these tests - https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/util-linux/blob/rawhide/f/tests

<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>

20:34:40

so the remaining request is to run those FMF tests on eln as well

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

20:34:52

ok, understood.

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

20:36:02

Thats something I currently don't know how to implement.

<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>

20:36:49

me neither

<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>

20:37:13

anybody else?

<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>

20:38:03

moving along then

<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>

20:38:52

!link https://github.com/fedora-eln/eln/issues/192

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

20:39:41

Oh, I didn't put my prototype background up there.

<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>

20:40:14

so right now, we don't have any background wallpaper in ELN

<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>

20:40:27

there are a few possible options listed there

<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>

20:41:31

Troy, you said you were going to work on this, and I think you we're making artwork just for ELN?

<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>

20:41:45

(aka option 3)?

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

20:42:11

Yep, though it's possible people won't like it.

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

20:42:38

If people don't like it, I'd like going with Fedora's generic wallpaper.

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

20:42:58

But having our own, would make it very obvious that it isn't Fedora.

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

20:45:08

I also think having our own logos would be good, but I consider that secondary.

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

20:45:43

But, since we have our own logo ... it might be easier.

<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>

20:45:55

!idea we open up for submissions and vote in a couple weeks

<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>

20:46:13

thoughts?

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

20:46:58

I like the idea, but I think I'll need 3 weeks to get the packages/backdrop/logos is respectable shape ... how about Feb 27 meeting.

<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>

20:47:26

anybody else want to get in on this?

<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>

20:50:05

moved: submissions for ELN-specific artwork are now open at https://github.com/fedora-eln/eln/issues/192 with voting three weeks hence (27 Feb)

<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>

20:50:28

let's vote!

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

20:51:23

Sorry ... I thought the voting was in 3 weeks.

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

20:51:40

But I'm +1 for the idea of doing it then.

<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>

20:51:56

I'm asking for a vote on the submission window and timing

<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>

20:52:19

anybody else still with us?

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

20:52:20

Ah, OK. Then sure, +1 from me.

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

20:54:10

<@sgallagh:fedora.im>

20:55:23

<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>

20:56:01

#agreed submissions for ELN-specific artwork are now open at https://github.com/fedora-eln/eln/issues/192 with voting three weeks hence (27 Feb)

<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>

20:57:02

!link https://github.com/fedora-eln/eln/issues/194

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

20:57:30

I'm noticing a bit of a trend on the Issues you are choosing.

<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>

20:57:54

I'm choosing things that I think we can discuss with who is here today, not picking on you specifically

<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>

20:58:20

e.g. I skipped some things because Davide and Michel aren't here

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

20:58:22

This one I'd like to put off until next week.

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

20:59:02

Partly because we only have 2 minutes

<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>

20:59:19

oops lost track of time

<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>

20:59:26

!topic Open Floor

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

20:59:38

Partly because I've been doing a writup for #194, and would like to have people have a week to digest / discuss what I wrote / asked.

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

21:00:37

After this meeting, I'll put up what I wrote ... I'm almost done, but didn't get it done before this meeting.

<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>

21:01:05

thanks Troy

<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>

21:01:12

anyone else have anything today?

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

21:02:08

Nothing from me

<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>

21:03:09

in that case, thank you all for coming. meetings are weekly now, and of course there's always #eln:fedoraproject.org in the meantime

<@yselkowitz:fedora.im>

21:03:13

!endmeeting