21:00:32 #startmeeting EMEA Ambassadors 2013-01-02 21:00:32 Meeting started Wed Jan 2 21:00:32 2013 UTC. The chair is sesivany. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 21:00:32 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 21:00:42 #meetingname EMEA Ambassadors 21:00:42 The meeting name has been set to 'emea_ambassadors' 21:00:50 #topic Roll Call 21:00:59 .fas eischmann 21:01:00 sesivany: eischmann 'Jiri Eischmann' 21:01:07 .fas cwickert 21:01:07 cwickert: cwickert 'Christoph Wickert' 21:01:24 .fas robyduck 21:01:24 robyduck: robyduck 'Robert Mayr' 21:01:28 #chair sesivany cwickert 21:01:28 Current chairs: cwickert sesivany 21:01:29 .fas mailga 21:01:30 mailga: mailga 'Gabriele Trombini' 21:01:46 .fas geroldka 21:01:46 GeroldKa: geroldka 'Gerold Kassube' 21:02:04 cwickert: will you lead the meeting? 21:02:18 .fas jreznik 21:02:18 jreznik_n9: jreznik 'Jaroslav Reznik' 21:02:26 .fas comzeradd 21:02:29 comzeradd: comzeradd 'Nikos Roussos' 21:02:51 .fas gnokii 21:02:53 gnokii: gnokii 'Sirko Kemter' 21:03:01 * cwickert just pinged a few people in #fedora-ambassadors 21:03:12 let's wait a few more minutes for late commers... 21:03:52 .fas egydev 21:03:54 egyDev: egydev 'Ahmed Mohamed Araby' 21:04:05 .fas underscores 21:04:06 underscores: underscores 'Fabian Kanngießer' 21:04:08 thanks cwickert 21:04:18 .fas cmpahar 21:04:18 cmpahar: cmpahar 'Christos Bacharakis' 21:04:38 ! 21:05:13 cmpahar: we haven't started yet, what's on your mind? 21:05:48 maybe a happy new year greeting to everyone? 21:06:14 Sesivany: just wanted to mention that todays reminder was a really late one 21:06:15 Eof 21:06:16 and happy new year at all 21:06:45 Happy new year everyone :) 21:06:47 cmpahar: I know, but i returned from holidays today :-/ 21:06:50 in addition the wiki pages for the last meetings are outdated without the meeting logs , schedule etc etc 21:06:54 Happy new year ) 21:06:57 ok, let's start... 21:07:05 #topic Announcements 21:07:42 anyone has an announcement? 21:07:49 ! 21:08:04 egyDev: go ahead 21:09:02 I don't know If this is much related but anyway , The Government here in Egypt extended it's contact with microsoft 21:09:17 and all communities start to do something here 21:09:50 egyDev: yeah, I read your report. Unfortunately, it happened in my country two years ago as well :-( 21:09:53 we had a meeting with communication minister and me and nadeen attended as part of Fedora community 21:09:56 .fas zoltanh721 21:09:57 zoltanh7211: zoltanh721 'Hoppár Zoltán' 21:10:17 egyDev: hopefully, it will activate open source communities in Egypt. 21:10:42 egyDev: managing to meet a minister sounds amazing, great job! 21:11:12 sesivany: Actually all communities want to do something that force the govenement to use open source 21:11:46 sesivany: and in the same time we're trying to motvate people for more events to bring new people 21:12:07 That's it :) , Hopping freedom for every country :) 21:12:18 #info egyDev and representatives of other open source communities managed to meet a minister of communications in Egypt to discuss deploying open source in public organizations. 21:12:38 .fas nspirit 21:12:38 egyDev: nspirit 'Nadeen Spirit' - serbianspirit 'Viktor Mirkovic' - scottinlafayette 'Scott Phillips' 21:12:49 nspirit 'Nadeen Spirit' 21:12:52 egyDev: again, great job and keep it up! 21:12:58 any other announcements? 21:12:58 Nadeen was the other Fedora member 21:13:01 Thanks 21:13:21 *Ambassador 21:13:22 if no one else has, I've got one.... 21:13:26 me no :) 21:13:50 we started working on a budget for the next fiscal year... 21:14:25 at EMEA FAD, we listed all events we want to organize and attend, then we put a cost to it to get a budget. 21:14:33 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/EMEA/Budget 21:14:53 that's where you find a preliminary budget with costs for all planned events... 21:15:34 it doesn't have to be final. I'd like to ask everyone to go through it and if there is something missing, please contact us. 21:16:30 ! 21:16:42 since the next fiscal year (since beginning of March), we have to do a budget planning, so all events and activities that require some significant amount of money need to be planned (ideally). 21:16:45 cwickert: go ahead 21:17:07 any other french people but shaiton here? 21:17:37 cwickert: I don't think so :-( 21:17:38 shaiton: please have a look at the budget and tell us what you need for Solutions Linux 21:17:41 * shaiton don't think soç 21:17:44 ok. 21:18:06 #action shaiton to add numbers for Solutions Linux to the budget 21:18:13 cwickert: e 21:18:16 oops 21:18:20 I think we should do the same for the other events 21:18:28 we should have the budget ready by mid January, so there is not much time left. 21:18:41 cwickert: we will only need media and goodies if any (I don't know how the production is going yet) 21:18:46 should we just ask everybody to have a look at the wiki page or assign action items 21:18:54 shaiton: this means 0 EUR? 21:19:01 * cwickert likes events for free ;) 21:19:04 cwickert: this event is free of registration ,) 21:19:14 we do free events for free here :p 21:19:42 * giallu is around, wresting with the secondary arch page 21:19:52 #action everybody to look at the budget and add things if they're missing. Every bigger event than can be planned, should be planned. 21:19:53 shaiton: and no people that need funding for travel or accommodation? 21:21:15 #action cmpahar2 and comzeradd to make a budget for Fosscomm 21:21:17 cwickert: I don't think so, or they haven't asked yet. Will try to reach this at our next meeting (next Tuesday) 21:21:22 would that work ? 21:21:25 shaiton: ok, thanks 21:21:31 * cwickert is eof 21:21:33 thanks 21:21:37 * cmpahar2 consider it done 21:22:16 cmpahar2: then just add a number you consider reasonable to the wiki 21:22:44 cwickert, remember I mentioned the codemotion event series at FAD? they published some dates http://www.codemotionworld.com/ 21:22:53 Cwickert later in the night. I am on mobile phone. Thanks 21:24:15 giallu: is it worth attending? 21:25:11 sesivany, I think it would be nice to propose it for developers to join and propose a talk 21:25:47 not sure about the logistics on locations other than Rome 21:26:10 so worth investigating for local ambassadors 21:26:32 giallu: can you send a note about the event to ambassadors list? 21:26:38 sure 21:27:02 #action giallu to send a note about http://www.codemotionworld.com/ to ambassadors list. 21:27:13 ok, anything else to announcements? 21:27:41 ! 21:27:58 zoltanh7211: go ahead 21:28:29 It seems we'll have new connections towards Romania, 21:28:40 with the Sapienta University 21:28:53 witch means 3 cities 21:29:14 they have asked us to hold Fedora talks for students 21:29:15 zoltanh7211: that's the Hungarian guy from Romania? 21:29:24 Yes 21:30:07 zoltanh7211: and can anyone from the Hungarian community do that? I mean to go there to deliver a talk? 21:30:42 Yes, as you know we have 3 ambassadors - and if we get some fuel support - no problem 21:31:17 Me myself is not sure, but rgeri77 and geleimate is available 21:31:21 zoltanh7211: that should not be a problem. 21:31:56 If I have the correct dates, and timing I will mail it to you and make announce 21:32:07 zoltanh7211: when you have plan, just file a ticket in our trac and we can have it approved. 21:32:28 sesivany: yes, thanks 21:32:32 EOF 21:32:35 ok, let's move to the next topic... 21:32:45 #topic Requests 21:32:55 * sesivany is looking at the trac. 21:34:25 I see #197 21:34:32 #link https://fedorahosted.org/emea-swag-tracking/ticket/197 21:35:12 It's FOSDEM 21:35:44 and I think it's the right time to discuss lodging at FOSDEM because we can't solve this ticket without it. 21:35:52 cwickert: r u here? 21:36:02 yes I am 21:36:04 no news 21:36:11 booth is still not confirmed 21:36:23 cwickert: the booth IS confirmed. 21:36:29 huh? 21:36:42 for some weird reason, they aswered to Red Hat. 21:37:00 nice 21:37:05 to some Benelux guy and via ln it got to me today. 21:37:15 I mean, there was no response to my mail and nothing on the mailing list either 21:37:28 I clearly told them I am the event owner and will organize everything 21:37:46 cwickert: gimme is sec, I'll find the mail. 21:37:54 to make sure it's what I think it is. 21:37:56 can you forward it to me? 21:39:09 cwickert: yes, just doing it. 21:39:37 thanks 21:39:44 any news about the appartment? 21:39:53 cwickert: sent to your fedoraproject mail. 21:40:28 cwickert: yes, I nagged nl today and she says she has 6 vacant beds and it can be extended if we want. 21:41:09 sesivany: ok, lets discuss this after the meeting or by mail 21:41:24 cwickert: we have to give her names and dates of arrivals, departures etc. 21:41:26 I mean, we need to collect responses from the attendees 21:41:37 ok, I will take care of that ASAP 21:41:48 cwickert: ok, let's finish this ticket then 21:42:08 #action cwickert to mail FOSDEM attendees about accommodation 21:42:31 it's a new ambassador, I think after what we discussed at FAD we could give him a wildcard. 21:42:52 cmpahar2, comzeradd: do you know him? 21:43:11 Who? 21:43:23 Nestos Theophrastou 21:43:36 .fas nestos 21:43:36 yes 21:43:37 cwickert: nestos 'Nestos Theophrastou' - n3st0c 'Nestos Theophrastou' 21:43:38 Yes he is a great young guy 21:43:50 i like him a lot.he was in fudcon too 21:43:57 you think he's worth sponsoring? 21:44:09 he is a new ambassador 21:44:22 so I think it would be good for him to attend fosdem 21:44:37 He is student and contributing in parallel 21:44:38 Cwickert for sure! 21:44:39 the only major he's been to is last emea fudcon 21:44:49 ok, then I suggest we vote 21:45:04 * cmpahar2 on mobile cant text much 21:45:10 * cwickert just trusts cmpahar2 and comzeradd and wildly remembers him from FUDCon 21:45:19 s/wildly/vaguely 21:45:27 +1 for sponsoring nestos 21:45:27 +1 to approve the airfare, lodging after we fix the apartment thing. 21:45:32 ack 21:45:35 +1 21:45:47 +1 21:45:54 only approve airfare, he is one of the candidates for the apartment 21:45:57 +1 21:46:21 +1 21:46:24 great, we reached the quorum. 21:46:32 +1 airfare 21:46:59 #info airface in #197 was approved 21:47:35 another ticket is #198 21:47:44 #link https://fedorahosted.org/emea-swag-tracking/ticket/198 21:49:12 one note: next time, please don't call it FAD. It collides with FADs as they're defined in Fedora Project. 21:49:26 Sesivany noted thanks 21:49:42 and those FADs are approved completely differently... which is another story I don't want to open today :) 21:50:32 cmpahar2: if you plan to do the same event next year, please add it to the budget. It will be easier to get money for it. 21:50:41 cmpahar2: just call it release party, it's close to the release anyway :) 21:51:01 otherwise I have no problem with it and I'm voting +1 21:51:10 +1 21:51:12 +1 21:51:12 +1 21:51:15 +1 21:51:15 +1 21:51:20 with a limit of 300 EUR that is 21:51:22 Its going to be a release party along with hackfests and presentstions 21:51:22 right? 21:51:34 right 21:52:08 #info the #198 ticket has been approved with limit €300 21:52:17 +1 21:52:21 200 for the events 100 for producing fliers 21:52:27 thanks 21:52:29 +1 21:52:45 that seems to be all tickets for today, correct me if Im wrong. 21:53:21 #topic Ambassadors Schedule 21:53:22 * shaiton has to leave (the pub is closing.... not internet any longer) see ya thanks 21:53:48 au revoir shaiton 21:53:49 shaiton: see ya 21:53:53 shaiton: see ya 21:54:07 * sesivany is looking for the schedule... 21:54:31 #link http://jreznik.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-18/f-18-ambassadors-tasks.html 21:54:55 jreznik_n9: any updates to the schedule? 21:55:12 jreznik_n9: what are the odds that F18 will be published next week? 21:56:28 AFAIK it won't be released next week, RC hasn't been published yet. 21:57:03 I think the final date will be the 15th, this time for real :) 21:57:16 please plan your release parties accordingly 21:58:08 to produce and deliver media to you takes 10-14 days, so early Feb is a safe time for release parties if you want to have media. 21:58:52 anything else to the schedule? 21:59:33 yep, unlikely to release early next week 22:00:17 #topic Events 22:00:40 btw. readiness mtg is tmrw 22:00:55 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events#EMEA-FY13Q4 22:01:17 jreznik_n9: ok, hopefully the 15th will be the day. 22:02:06 we already touched the next two events: FOSDEM and FAD/release party in Greece... 22:03:15 if I counts correctly we have 8 people signed up for booth duty at FOSDEM. I'd appreciate 1-2 more. 22:03:32 cwickert: how many people do we need? 9-10, right? 22:03:33 and they will be handcuffed to the booth 22:04:12 we don't need so many people 22:04:20 but we want them 22:04:32 we want to give them a chance to attend a great event 22:04:43 most of them will be in talks most of the time anyway 22:04:46 the Greek guy is not signed there yet, so it's 9 now. 22:04:59 that should be fine 22:05:15 i'll ping him to sign up 22:05:24 if we have 3 people at the booth all the time, we should be fine 22:05:31 and of course we can rotate 22:05:59 cwickert: I'm a booth person, I like talking to strange people, so I'll be around most of the time :) 22:06:45 you probably like talking to strange people because you are strange yourself ;P 22:07:08 cwickert: that's I sometimes talk to myself ;) 22:07:34 :) 22:07:34 cwickert: what about xfce fad at devconf, any updates there? 22:07:50 I don't think it will happen 22:07:57 it's too close to FOSDEM 22:08:08 where all the developers meet anyway 22:08:16 cwickert: understood 22:08:21 but I can nag them again, haven't heard back from anybody 22:08:31 s/anybody/everybody 22:09:06 I see 17 ppl listed in the fosdem page. is there still a need for personnel? (considering to volunteer if right stars align) 22:09:32 btw I just checked release parties and we have 6 in EMEA which is not bad, but not very impressing either... 22:09:37 giallu u should look where has "booth service" written 22:09:45 ! 22:10:00 comzeradd: speak up 22:10:12 just a side note about FOSDEM 22:10:20 as part of my sponsorship from Fedora for Fosdem (approved in the previous meeting) 22:10:32 and in order to represent Fedora at the event, I submitted a talk proposal for CrossDistro Devroom 22:10:35 hopefully it'll get approved 22:10:41 #link https://lists.fosdem.org/pipermail/distributions/2012-December/000160.html 22:10:42 eof 22:11:19 comzeradd: great to see some Fedora talks proposed! 22:12:12 #info consider organizing a F18 release party. The best time for it is early Feb. 22:12:36 sesivany, we are pushing for more parties in italy as well 22:12:37 anything else to events? 22:13:16 giallu: cool, I see one in Naples, maybe one more in Milan or Rome? 22:13:50 Rome is possible but not decided 22:14:04 we have one secured in the north, near Turin 22:14:32 maybe another one, still discussing 22:14:48 btw Bogomil "Bogo" Shopov wrote an interesting article about organizing a release event, you can get some inspiration there. 22:15:03 #link http://talkweb.eu/openweb/2062 - interesting article on organizing release events. 22:16:19 * giallu bookmarking 22:16:56 #topic Action items from previous meetings 22:17:48 sesivany to talk to lh about accommodation at FOSDEM... 22:17:52 partly done 22:18:12 #done rbergeron to talk to suehle, lh, quaid about updating the OSAS wiki page 22:18:34 although it's not fixed yet 22:18:51 #done cwickert to add a 'Budget' column to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Talk:FAD_EMEA_2012#Events_and_their_owners 22:19:02 done 22:19:13 well, in fact I added the numbers to the budget 22:19:19 cwickert to ask biertie if he can arrange something for Friday afternoon before FOSDEM beer event - what about this? 22:19:25 not done :( 22:19:35 #action cwickert to ask biertie if he can arrange something for Friday afternoon before FOSDEM beer event 22:19:59 cwickert to move confirmed events from https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Talk:FAD_EMEA_2012#Events_and_their_owners over to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events ??? 22:20:43 not done, I need to clean up the whole page 22:20:47 s/need/want 22:20:59 cwickert: ok 22:21:21 that's nothing urgent anyway. 22:21:51 everybody look at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Talk:FAD_EMEA_2012#Events_and_their_owners and see which events you take over 22:22:17 we still don't have LinuxWochens covered. 22:22:27 if you don't take them over, I will assign them to you! ;) 22:22:54 * sesivany doesn't speak German :) 22:23:02 which one 22:24:13 zoltanh7211: will you own the LinuxWochen in Vienna? 22:24:17 we can take Vienna again - but it would be nice to have you gnokii you too 22:24:49 I think we have to be realistic 22:24:56 I will be in vienna daja already asked but I will be each day for the half day deliver an workshop 22:25:00 this means we cannot do all of the Austrian events 22:25:10 +1 22:25:12 zoltanh7211: I can attend and help out, but I can't organize it, I already have too many events and duties. 22:25:18 unless we have more austrian contributors 22:25:20 Linz we cant do anything 22:25:53 its a special kind of event, if u would visit it, u would asked what has it to do with flos 22:26:17 cwickert: what about Dominik? he was in Graz last time, right? 22:26:32 sesivany: I think having an RH desk again would be nice in Vienna 22:27:28 graz is one of them who is useful also bigger with the visitors but graz is damn expensive 22:27:40 sesivany: Dominik? 22:28:12 cwickert: Dmaphy 22:28:15 ah 22:28:26 that is Dominic :) 22:28:31 with c and not with k 22:28:50 well, we can ask him, but I would prefer more local people 22:29:04 Kevin :D 22:29:04 cwickert: I'm never sure what's written with c and what's with k in German :) 22:29:08 it's not really effective to fly from Hamburg to Graz for a single day event 22:29:49 he didnt fly 22:29:50 we can just give it up, I mean we can't cover everything and if we don't have any local people to take over... 22:29:53 sesivany: there is no rule, normally it's with k but dmaphy is an exception from the rule 22:30:11 lets focus on the big ones, say Vienna and Graz 22:30:25 Dornbirn is easy, we have msummer there 22:30:34 cwickert: let me check eisenstadt, because the date which is mentioned in the wiki cant be 22:30:39 hi to everyone, sry im late.... 22:30:49 gnokii: go ahead and fix it 22:31:06 rgeri77: welcome! 22:31:31 thanks SESIVANY, and happy new year to everyone 22:32:14 let's continue with action items, this meeting is getting long... 22:32:37 everybody if you ran an event in 2011 or 2012, make sure it is in the wiki and in the "events" category. We really need to know where we were - still being worked on... 22:32:55 #undone twohot and frankice to look for events in Africa in 2013 22:33:05 #action twohot and frankice to look for events in Africa in 2013 22:33:21 #done robyduck ask on the ML who is interested in Fedora cycling jerseys to see how many would order at least one 22:33:37 #undone sesivany and gnokii to sort out media artwork :-( 22:33:45 sesivany: we are at 15 preordered jerseys 22:33:47 would 22:33:51 woot 22:33:57 gnokii: can you please send me what the design team produced? 22:34:14 mom 22:34:36 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/MediaArt/F18 22:35:39 gnokii: is it possible to get the disc artworks in PDF with Pantone info? 22:35:53 gnokii: AFAIK mizmo did it last time. 22:36:08 sesivany: plz take a look, there is a 300dpi CMYK pdf 22:37:01 gnokii: yes, but the vendor will bitch again that it's not Pantone. 22:37:28 sesivany, can you just give them the pantone # and they can substitute? 22:38:12 gnokii: but I'll contact mizmo anyway because the sleeves will have to be adjusted. the sleeves are not exactly squared. 22:38:25 sesivany: look at her comment 22:39:38 ok, I'll take a look at it later, let's finish this meeting... 22:39:58 #undone zoltanh7211 to make his event report public, like *really* public ;) 22:40:14 at least I haven't seen in the ambassadors list. 22:40:48 sesivany: should we file a design-ticket for the jersey design? 22:41:02 robyduck: yes, please, do so. 22:41:13 ok 22:41:27 #topic openfloor 22:41:49 anything else to discuss? otherwise I'll close the meeting. 22:42:20 * sesivany hasn't eaten since lunch and starving :-) 22:42:47 I have uploaded that event pictures and report either, but ok, I'll push it to the amb list 22:43:02 np 22:43:12 yes I have something 22:43:45 gnokii: go ahead 22:44:41 some might noticed it I started 2 months ago a campaign http://pledgie.com/campaigns/18338, try to rais money for some ppl to go to the next libre graphics meeting 22:46:17 now the time is nearly over, there are only a few days left for raise for the first 2 persons the money for the flights. as they need the tickets for there visa 22:47:52 is there a possibility that we support at least Gustav Gonzalez to go, he made over the last months a lot of progress on tupi with building it completly new so that it can packaged for fedora 22:48:06 eof 22:48:59 ok, I'm going to finish this meeting 'cause I'm seriously hungry. 22:49:31 thank you for coming, the next meeting will be on January 16th. 22:49:46 #info the next meeting will be on January 16th 22:49:51 #endmeeting