20:00:04 <sesivany> #startmeeting EMEA ambassadors 2013-07-17
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20:00:06 <sesivany> #meetingname emea ambassadors
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20:00:13 <sesivany> #topic Roll call
20:00:15 <cmpahar> .fas cmpahar
20:00:19 <sesivany> .fas eischmann
20:00:31 <ignatenkobrain> .fas ignatenkobrain
20:00:44 <Affix> .fas affix
20:01:18 <jamielinux> .fas jamielinux
20:01:27 <jamielinux> zodbot died :(
20:01:54 <sesivany> jamielinux: do we have a backup solution? :)
20:02:01 * sesivany is Jiri Eischmann :)
20:02:11 * heffer is also here (Felix Kaechele)
20:02:14 * jamielinux is Jamie Nguyen
20:02:15 * Affix is Keiran Smith
20:02:18 * cmpahar is Christos Bacharakis
20:02:23 * ignatenkobrain is Igor Gnatenko
20:02:43 <jamielinux> Damn you zodbot, for making us type our names
20:02:51 <Affix> and keep our own minutes
20:03:09 <Prometheas> .fas misaakidis
20:03:15 <gnokii> .fas gnokii
20:03:35 <sesivany> gnokii, Prometheas: it doesn't work on.
20:03:41 <sesivany> /s/on/now
20:04:28 <Affix> do we postpone until zodbot is fixed?
20:04:39 <gnokii> sesivany: killed zodbot
20:05:06 <sesivany> Affix: not really, I think it's not out of order completely.
20:05:12 <Affix> ok cool
20:05:12 <thunderbirdtr> .fas thunderbirdtr
20:05:24 <thunderbirdtr> Hello everyone ;
20:05:24 <sesivany> it at least responded to my meeting commands.
20:05:29 <Affix> I added something to the agenda sesivany hope you don't mind
20:05:40 <sesivany> Affix: no problem
20:05:43 <heffer> maybe the fas interface is b0rked?
20:06:25 <sesivany> .famsco 333
20:06:26 <zodbot> https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/333
20:06:41 <sesivany> hmm... as I said it's not dead completely.
20:06:53 <sesivany> probably the fas interface is broken as heffer says.
20:07:00 <Affix> fenrus said the FAS Connection is broken
20:07:08 <gnokii> moar beer zodbot
20:07:13 <sesivany> ok, let's get started.
20:07:15 <gnokii> .moar beer zodbot
20:07:15 <zodbot> here zodbot, have some more beer
20:07:24 * nirik is looking into it, please move on.
20:07:32 <sesivany> #topic Announcements
20:07:39 <jreznik> ah, emea meeting, long time I was able to make it :)
20:08:09 <sesivany> jreznik: last emea meeting as a free man? ;-)
20:08:30 <jreznik> sesivany: so maybe last meeting forever? :D
20:08:34 <Affix> heres an Announcement Affix is back
20:08:47 <Affix> after a short period of absense setting up my business
20:08:53 <sesivany> Affix: great to see you back!
20:09:16 <Affix> glad to be back :)
20:09:53 <sesivany> I've got one thing to announce, you all probably already know. It's a very sad news :-/
20:10:16 <sesivany> Seth Vidal, a long time Fedora contributor, died last week.
20:10:29 <Affix> May he rest in peace he was a nice guy and a friend to all
20:10:53 <Affix> however i feel he has been immortalised in his work with yum and fedora
20:11:03 <cmpahar> sesivany, what????? HOW?
20:11:15 <sesivany> cmpahar: you don't know?
20:11:33 <cmpahar> sesivany, no, i was away, having vacations
20:11:44 <ignatenkobrain> cmpahar: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/announce/2013-July/003174.html
20:11:46 <jamielinux> cmpahar: https://www.redhat.com/about/news/archive/2013/7/thank-you-seth-vidal
20:11:48 <Affix> cmpahar: He was a victim of a hit and run while on his bicycle
20:12:09 <cmpahar> thanks for the reference guys. pfffff
20:12:42 <robyduck> .fas robyduck
20:13:29 <sesivany> if you run some event such a release party, please mention Seth in front of attendees. It's really a big loss for Fedora Project.
20:14:20 <sesivany> Affix: would you like to announce fedora-uk?
20:14:27 <robyduck> is zodbot in holiday like me? :)
20:14:41 <heffer> robyduck: yes
20:14:45 <sesivany> robyduck: just fas command doesn't work.
20:14:49 <heffer> but only on fas holiday
20:15:35 <sesivany> ok, I'll do it for Affix...
20:16:09 <sesivany> Affix and others have started a new community - fedora-uk
20:16:32 <sesivany> jamielinux: that's something you may be interested in.
20:16:47 <jamielinux> sesivany: Indeed :)
20:17:01 <BCrookAtRA> Is there expected to be any voting on the NoSyslog and NoSendmail proposals today?
20:17:05 <jamielinux> I spotted the blog posts, irc channel etc
20:17:55 <sesivany> BCrookAtRA: I think it has already happened, or at least the FESCo meeting is already over. This is EMEA ambassadors meeting.
20:17:57 <jamielinux> BCrookAtRA: This is EMEA meeting not FESCO :)
20:18:23 <tflink> BCrookAtRA: there was no voting on those proposals today, maybe next week
20:18:40 <sesivany> one more thing I'd like to announce today...
20:18:52 <BCrookAtRA> should I be present in this channel, or some other if I want to participate in that?
20:19:52 <sesivany> BCrookAtRA: check the schedule of Fedora IRC meetings and just show up at the time of the meeting you want to participate in. That's it.
20:20:26 <sesivany> one more thing I want to announce today...
20:20:51 <sesivany> I finally closed the Q1 budget-wise.
20:21:18 <sesivany> #link http://eischmann.wordpress.com/2013/07/17/fedora-emea-budget-q1/
20:21:29 <sesivany> you can more about it in the article.
20:21:43 <sesivany> or you can check the budget directly. It should be up-to-date.
20:21:54 <Affix> sorry about that my router crashed
20:21:55 <Affix> sesivany: Wan't me to speak about F-UK now?
20:22:36 * cwickert is sorry for being late
20:22:45 <Affix> hey cwickert
20:22:45 <robyduck> sesivany: Affix:is fedora-uk the community which had uk.fcomm.org?
20:22:46 <sesivany> Affix: just a simple announcement now please and if you discuss it more we can leave for the end of the meeting.
20:23:29 <Affix> Myself, Paul Mellors (MooDoo )and James Smith (Smittix) are proud to announce the launch of fedora-uk.org
20:23:40 <sesivany> #info We spent $9195 in Q1. Read read the link above to find more details.
20:23:41 <Affix> We are a small community of fedora users and contributors from the UK
20:24:32 <sesivany> #info UK ambassadors have launch fedora-uk.org, a community of Fedora users and contributors from the UK.
20:24:45 <sesivany> typo... damn
20:24:48 <sesivany> #undo
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20:24:49 <Affix> We also have #fedora-uk in IRC
20:25:24 <sesivany> #info UK ambassadors have launched fedora-uk.org, a community of Fedora users and contributors from the UK. Their IRC channel is #fedora-uk.
20:25:35 <rgeri77> .fas rgeri77
20:25:53 <sesivany> ok, let's move on, 25 minutes have passed and we're still in announcements.
20:26:05 <sesivany> #topic Requests
20:26:14 * sesivany is checking the trac.
20:27:07 <rgeri77> hello,
20:27:23 <Affix> hello rgeri77
20:27:32 <sesivany> There is one ticket I approved on the peer-review basis.
20:27:40 <ignatenkobrain> rgeri77: you're welcome
20:28:02 <sesivany> #info the ticket #263 has been approved on the peer-review basis by sesivany
20:28:10 <sesivany> #link https://fedorahosted.org/emea-swag-tracking/ticket/263
20:28:40 <sesivany> it was a planned expense for Solution Linux, one of the biggest Linux events in Europe.
20:28:55 <Affix> back in a sec
20:29:26 <sesivany> cwickert: have you gotten reimbursed for LinuxWochen in Vienna?
20:29:55 <sesivany> the ticket is still hanging there.
20:36:11 <Affix> ok sorted then
20:36:40 <sesivany> cwickert: please ping kital, I don't know if he is out of credit or just hasn't had time.
20:37:08 <sesivany> ok, that's for the requests, let's move on, shall we?
20:37:20 <robyduck> +1
20:37:24 <Affix> if everyone else is fine with it :)
20:37:28 <cwickert> sesivany: done
20:37:55 <sesivany> #topic Ambassadors Schedule
20:38:09 <sesivany> jreznik: do we already have a schedule for F20?
20:39:25 <jreznik> sesivany: yes, we do
20:39:32 <sesivany> otherwise, let's skip this topic because it's too early for F20 tasks and it's still a F19 release promotion time.
20:39:41 <sesivany> jreznik: can you share it with us?
20:39:45 <jreznik> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/20/Schedule
20:40:19 <jreznik> but it's still the "no earlier than" one - it will be based on mass rebuild results we discussed today
20:40:33 <ignatenkobrain> jreznik: ok.
20:41:31 <sesivany> sesivany is glad we are getting back to the old good release dates. Please no more releases in January and July :)
20:41:51 <jreznik> sesivany: well, it still could be january :)
20:42:34 <sesivany> jreznik: there is no major feature, so hopefully not.
20:42:43 <sesivany> ok, let's move on...
20:42:55 <sesivany> #topic Events
20:43:30 <jreznik> sesivany: arm as pa is a major one :)
20:44:11 <sesivany> I still have some release parties to happen, right?
20:44:15 <sesivany> #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F19_release_events#EMEA
20:44:48 <sesivany> I'm glad to see that EMEA has been the most active region in terms of release parties.
20:44:49 <ignatenkobrain> sesivany: yes
20:44:52 <Affix> 5th time today my router crashed
20:46:03 <sesivany> this time, we're not going to run any competition for the best release party, but every release event organizer will get a special F19 t-shirt.
20:46:28 * Affix quickly organises a one man release party
20:46:29 <Affix> haha
20:46:50 <sesivany> some of you might have already gotten it because I sent it with swag packages.
20:46:56 <ignatenkobrain> Affix: cool :)
20:47:19 <mailga> ?
20:47:41 <sesivany> mailga: go ahead
20:48:14 <mailga> why https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F19_release_tshirt doesn't match with https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events#FY14_Q1_.28June_2013_-_August_2013.29?
20:49:07 <mailga> the event page on the wiki
20:49:10 <sesivany> mailga: this is the correct list of release parties: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F19_release_events#EMEA
20:49:24 <mailga> isn't the same of the RP.
20:49:50 <gnokii> because that are two different shoes
20:49:53 <sesivany> mailga: the Event page doesn't get updated very often :-/
20:50:16 <sesivany> mailga: all release parties are on the release party page.
20:50:20 <heffer> just saw i need to add froscon there :)
20:51:03 <mailga> sesivany, gnokii I ever watch the event main page, maybe a link is useful.
20:51:17 <sesivany> i know all release party organizers should be moved to the list, but I've just been to busy to do it. But I keep a track of what ambassadors have received the t-shirt.
20:51:54 * sesivany is going to be right back, needs to run away.
20:51:59 <rgeri77> Affix: change you router to Mikrotik
20:52:17 <mailga> sesivany, ok I'll update the tshirt page with the RP owners. EOF
20:52:19 <Affix> rgeri77: my ISP doesn't let you use your own equipment
20:54:46 <sesivany> mailga: thank you!
20:55:25 <mailga> sentabi, you're welcome.
20:55:46 <sesivany> robyduck, mailga: don't you know if giallu needs F19 media for the release party in Perugia?
20:55:46 <mailga> ups! sesivany you're welcome :-D
20:56:01 <robyduck> sesivany: yes he does
20:56:11 <mailga> sesivany, I think yes.
20:56:22 <robyduck> we made it at last minute this time
20:56:29 <sesivany> robyduck: ok, I can send the big package for Italy to him and he can then distribute it to other ambassadors.
20:56:38 <robyduck> so it would be very nice if you could send out the package in time
20:57:12 <robyduck> oh sesivany he changed his address, are you already aware of that?
20:57:13 <mailga> sesivany, please include a Tshirt for giallu.
20:57:17 <sesivany> robyduck: I'll send it on Fri because it's the nearest date when Czech Post collects packages in our office.
20:57:30 <sesivany> robyduck: it should be in Italy within 5 days.
20:57:37 <sesivany> mailga: sure.
20:57:49 <mailga> sesivany, thx.
20:58:16 <sesivany> heffer: is everything going well with froscon?
20:58:32 <heffer> i'll give a short update, ok? :)
20:58:43 <robyduck> sesivany: I will give you his new address before friday, via mail ;)
20:58:43 <sesivany> heffer: ok
20:58:53 <heffer> for the reference: this is about FrOSCon 2013, see https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FrOSCon_2013
20:59:04 <sesivany> robyduck: please do so by tomorrow.
20:59:13 <robyduck> sure
20:59:39 <heffer> we're currently finalizing arrangements for the accommodation which proved not to be easy due to gamescom happening at the same time as FrOSCon not far from the venue
20:59:56 <heffer> gamescom is the world's largest event on gaming and entertainment
21:00:14 <heffer> happening in cologne the week of FrOSCon
21:00:29 <heffer> but it looks like we finally found a place to stay which is affordable
21:00:32 <Affix> busy week for you guys then
21:00:47 <sesivany> heffer: I'd like to ask you for one thing: can you please add an event budget for froscon that includes all expenses including travel expenses, accommodation of all participants etc?
21:00:50 <rgeri77> heffer: wooo, thats my place gamescom...
21:00:55 <heffer> if all goes well i hope we'll stay under 400€ for accomodation
21:01:16 <heffer> sesivany: sure. i will do so
21:01:16 * cmpahar I have to go. good night everyone :) I have to catch a train see you
21:01:23 <sesivany> heffer: it really helps us keep the track of all expenses, budget etc.
21:01:23 <Affix> good night cmpahar
21:01:33 <gnokii> sesivany: we can make the ticket when we have all data, thats the problem.
21:01:33 <robyduck> cmpahar: see you
21:01:39 <sesivany> cmpahar: see you!
21:01:47 <ignatenkobrain> cmpahar: goodnight. let's try to talk later
21:01:50 <mailga> cmpahar, goodnight
21:02:18 <rgeri77> cmpahar: bye
21:02:25 <heffer> due to the problematic search for accommodation and myself being very busy (recently switched jobs) I wasn't able to finalize all the planning just yet
21:02:51 <heffer> but it looks like i will be able to manage to do that this week
21:02:51 <sesivany> gnokii: kital wants to have one ticket per reimbursement, but we'd also like to have all expenses at one place.
21:03:06 <heffer> sesivany: i will take care that you get that
21:03:25 <sesivany> gnokii: because when a new request comes we have no idea if it's still within the event budget limits or not.
21:04:05 <heffer> sesivany: are flights from CZ for Red Hat employees covered by Fedora budget or by RH?
21:05:03 <sesivany> heffer: when you create the budget, you don't have to get approved expenses one by one, but all of them at once, and if there are minor changes within the limit, you're free to do them as an event owner.
21:05:24 <sesivany> heffer: AFAIK Miro's flight is paid by Fedora.
21:05:51 <sesivany> heffer: he is not actually a Red Hat employee, just an intern.
21:06:18 <heffer> okay. i'll contact all attendees tomorrow to update them on the current status and give further details on what when and where
21:06:51 <heffer> i'll then try to finish the budget planning by the end of this week
21:06:57 <heffer> if that's okay with you?
21:07:20 <sesivany> heffer: yes
21:07:22 <heffer> for swag/media i have created https://fedorahosted.org/emea-swag-tracking/ticket/269 to track this
21:08:20 <heffer> finally I'm left to say that I'm glad that we have many contributors joining us in this (always) great event. really looking forwart to it
21:08:36 <heffer> unless there are any further questions on this: EOF :)
21:08:46 <sesivany> heffer: the budget for froscon is $1573. You should get into this limit with the whole event. I'm not saying to spend the whole amount at any cost. Any saved money could be used for swag production for example.
21:09:24 <sesivany> cwickert: are you still with us?
21:09:24 <gnokii> sesivany: if you not stop that, I will think about how we can spend what is planned
21:09:26 <heffer> sesivany: i'll spend it responsibly, of course
21:10:08 <cwickert> sesivany: yes I am
21:10:19 <Affix> no blowing it all on sweets heffer
21:10:35 <sesivany> gnokii: you know I have to be the unpopular guy who has to tell everyone to spend money reasonably etc. I don't like it much to be honest :)
21:11:32 <ignatenkobrain> I'm sorry. I have to go. Zzz. Goodnight all! sesivany, talk tomorrow.
21:11:40 <sesivany> cwickert: I'd like to push forward the EMEA FAD. We still have just one proposed location - Brno. And I'm not happy about it. Gerold said he'd come up with something, but nothing so far.
21:11:50 <sesivany> ignatenkobrain: ok, good night.
21:12:03 <cwickert> sesivany: I think I could do something at Berlin
21:12:11 <Affix> I could do something in the UK
21:12:18 <cwickert> but it's probably more expensive than in Rheinfelden
21:12:37 <cwickert> Affix: I suggest you attend one FAD before you make your own, ok?
21:12:43 <sesivany> cwickert: I think Rheinfelden was a sweat location.
21:12:45 <Affix> sure thing cwickert
21:12:57 <cwickert> yes, I think Rheinfelden is perfect
21:13:05 <mailga> sesivany, we are waiting Gerold proposal, but only as second choice. Rheinfelden is a must.
21:13:36 <cwickert> as for Berlin, I think I have a location for the FAD
21:13:57 <cwickert> however accommodation will be more expensive I guess
21:13:57 <sesivany> cwickert: can you please ping gerold about it?
21:14:02 <cwickert> ok
21:14:09 <sesivany> cwickert: or call him if you have his number.
21:14:15 <cwickert> I have
21:14:26 <cwickert> #action cwickert to ping geroldka about FAD
21:14:38 <jreznik> expensive? we stayed with sesivany in Berlin for 15 euros per night :) but I'm not sure he want to repeat this experience :)))
21:15:02 <heffer> nothing's gonna top the luftschutzbunker in zurich!
21:15:13 <sesivany> jreznik: yeah, I'm getting old and I'd like to actually get some sleep nowadays :)
21:15:26 <cwickert> hmm
21:15:26 <jreznik> heffer: oh, I forgot :) you're right
21:15:45 <cwickert> Rheinfelden is 70-92 for a double room
21:15:53 <cwickert> plus meeting room
21:16:05 <cwickert> I think we should be able to do the same in Berlin
21:16:13 <cwickert> I can get the meeting room for free
21:16:31 <cwickert> but I still prefer Rheinfelden because I want Gerold to do the work ;)
21:16:45 <sesivany> cwickert: Brno would be cheap and we would have full service from Red Hat, but I too still prefer Rheinfelden :)
21:16:49 <heffer> i hope some day there will be a FAD in Leverkusen. If I can get my employer to be nice :P
21:17:00 <gnokii> aa
21:17:09 <cwickert> heffer: sure, go for it!
21:17:14 * jreznik has to go to Rheinfelden if it's going to be there
21:17:18 <sesivany> cwickert: and I don't also want everything to be in Brno and organized by me :-)
21:17:33 <cwickert> sesivany: I think travel is the problem
21:17:43 <cwickert> Brno is.. suboptimal I'd say
21:17:46 * jsmith would love to go to Rheinfelden again (or anywhere in Europe, for that matter)
21:18:18 <cwickert> Rheinfelden on the other hand is perfect: in the middle of nowhere, no distraction, but still easy to reach by plane or train
21:18:46 <gnokii> by plane, by train not that easy
21:19:29 <cwickert> gnokii: not from east germany :-P
21:19:45 <sesivany> cwickert: and we have to make sure that we order some meal delivery on Saturday because not eating from 8am to 9pm was a torture :)
21:19:54 <heffer> Leverkusen is great to reach from all over the world. need to think more about that :D
21:20:54 <sesivany> Affix: btw do you want to go to LinuxCon Europe to help with Fedora booth? I got 4 free passes for Fedora.
21:21:00 <Affix> sesivany: yes I do
21:21:06 <Affix> thats why I added it to the Agenda
21:21:07 <sesivany> Affix: it's going to be in Edinburgh.
21:21:13 <gnokii> cwickert: so far I remember is Berlin one of the 5 countries in east germany ;)
21:21:33 <Affix> sesivany: I'm going to be in Edinburgh any way as I live there
21:21:42 <Affix> So I am willing to help out with the booth
21:22:02 <cwickert> Affix: please do. we really need to improve our presence in the UK
21:22:14 <Affix> cwickert: Yes I will be happy to do it
21:22:22 <sesivany> Affix: you can be the event owner then ;-)
21:22:29 <jreznik> anarchy in the uk, sorry fedora in the uk :)
21:22:32 <Affix> sesivany: so I get to arrange it etcetera?
21:23:02 <Affix> would help if I could spell haha
21:23:15 <sesivany> Affix: we'll need to find some affordable for 4 ambassadors...
21:23:26 <sesivany> Affix: or 3 if you say you live in the city.
21:23:26 <Affix> I know DiscordianUK is interested
21:23:48 <Affix> I have family members that own a Hotel right in the city center
21:23:52 <Affix> so that would be ideal
21:23:57 * gnokii designs the Fedora tartan
21:24:21 <sesivany> Affix: can we get a special discount for Fedora? ;-)
21:24:22 <Affix> gnokii: if you do it I will wear a kilt
21:24:29 <Affix> sesivany: I can see what I can arrange
21:25:16 <sesivany> Affix: so far jamielinux and jarcher have signed up for the event.
21:25:27 <Affix> so me, jamie and jarcher
21:25:30 <gnokii> Affix: designing and register it is the easy part
21:25:46 <Affix> DiscordianUK just told me he is willing to sit on the booth
21:26:05 <sesivany> Affix: I might come too if my employer pays it, I don't really want to ask Fedora for this.
21:26:06 * jamielinux is not a definite
21:26:11 * jamielinux will be able to let you know in August
21:26:15 <Affix> sesivany: ok no problem
21:26:44 <Affix> sesivany: What will I do about getting stall setup
21:26:48 <Affix> Like Banners etc...
21:26:49 <sesivany> Affix: so DiscordianUK can be a backup for me or jamielinux.
21:26:58 <Affix> ok awesome
21:27:14 <Affix> I'm noting all this down
21:27:26 <sesivany> Affix: if I come, I can bring stuff like banners, table cloth etc. no worries about that.
21:27:37 <Affix> if not will you ship to me?
21:27:46 <DiscordianUK> I cannot help with the phyiscal stuff
21:28:37 <sesivany> Affix: yes, but it actually might be cheaper to fly it personally there :)
21:28:43 <Affix> probably will haha
21:28:44 <DiscordianUK> but I'll happily help people with fedora issues
21:29:09 <Affix> sesivany: I will make sure we have the best booth there :)
21:29:13 <DiscordianUK> to the best of my ability
21:29:18 <sesivany> Affix: it'd be great if you created an event wiki page where we can organize the stuff.
21:29:40 <Affix> sesivany: I will do that tonight
21:30:26 <sesivany> ok, I think it's all to events, let's switch to open floor.
21:30:33 <DiscordianUK> I assume there will be wifi
21:30:33 <sesivany> #topic Openfloor
21:30:55 <Affix> back to Fedora-UK
21:31:04 <DiscordianUK> ok
21:31:11 <Affix> As mentioned we have started a small UK Based community of Fedora users and Contributors
21:31:41 <Affix> we have started a small forum on http://www.fedora-uk.org running phpBB with a sweet logo I made (no problem with pride)
21:31:56 <Affix> We also hang around on IRC in #fedora-uk
21:32:17 <robyduck> Affix: is fedora-uk related to the old uk.fedoracommunity.org?
21:32:32 <Affix> robyduck: I think that was old
21:32:51 <Affix> was run by Paul Mellors I think
21:32:53 <robyduck> it doesn't exist any more you mean?
21:32:56 <Affix> he owns the fedora-uk.org domain
21:33:09 <Affix> robyduck: Its just a white page there
21:33:22 <robyduck> Affix: yes i know ;)
21:33:30 <Affix> so yeah
21:33:35 <Affix> MooDoo (Paul Mellors)
21:33:40 <Affix> owns the domain fedora-uk.org
21:33:47 <Affix> and is the channel op of #fedora-uk
21:34:08 <Affix> Our goals include promoting fedora around the united kingdom
21:34:24 <Affix> and eventually hoping to bring a FAD and FUDCon to the UK
21:34:44 <Affix> and make it more accessible to our Fedora Users and Developers
21:34:55 <DiscordianUK> Yes that would be good
21:35:13 <sesivany> Affix: please make sure the uk community is an extension of the broad emea community and you cooperate and communicate with others in the regions. I don't really want to end up like in Ubuntu where LoCo teams are completely separated entities.
21:35:36 <Affix> sesivany: That is the end goal to work with the rest of the world
21:36:06 <Affix> the main idea behind the UK Forum is our users will be on at around the same time
21:36:11 <Affix> and available to provide support faster
21:36:18 <Affix> to UK users
21:36:19 <mribeirodantas> hello there
21:36:23 <sesivany> Affix: it'd be great if at least some members attended emea meetings, events etc. So far only jarcher and jamielinux have been active this way.
21:36:38 <DiscordianUK> redhat emea has largely ignored us
21:36:41 <Affix> sesivany: I will speak with the rest of the guys and get them more involved
21:37:30 <sesivany> Affix: otherwise I've got nothing against national communities and I support the idea.
21:37:38 <rgeri77> Affix: thats a good idea
21:37:55 <DiscordianUK> Not everyone in the UK has a passport
21:37:55 <sesivany> Affix: we've got something similar around http://www.fedora.cz
21:38:24 <Affix> sesivany: Yeah theres Fedora VE and Brasîl too
21:38:43 <Affix> its a shame I'm not multi-lingual
21:38:51 <robyduck> Affix: local communities are listed on http://fedoracommunity.org
21:39:10 <sesivany> Affix: probably the most active national community in EMEA is the Italian one.
21:39:19 <Affix> sesivany: not for long ;)
21:39:20 <DiscordianUK> I understand French
21:39:27 <robyduck> so if fedora-uk has the requirements and is the onloy active actually think about filing a ticket
21:39:50 <Affix> robyduck: Thanks for the link I will make sure we are the only active UK Community if not we will work to integrate with ithers
21:39:52 <sesivany> Affix: the French one is also strong, but they're kinda what I want to avoid with the uk community. They don't communicate with others much.
21:39:52 <Affix> ]others*
21:40:03 <robyduck> Affix: nice :)
21:40:15 <Affix> sesivany: Communication is the key to a successful community and open source planet
21:40:36 * DiscordianUK mumbles
21:41:15 <Affix> Fedora-UK Also has a minecraft server available if anyone wants to join us for a game :)
21:41:25 <DiscordianUK> I believe oss stuff shows the best way forward for humanity
21:41:53 * cwickert needs to leave, gn8
21:41:59 <Affix> DiscordianUK: And that comes from Open Communication and not hiding secrets
21:42:02 <Affix> night cwickert
21:42:03 <sesivany> cwickert: good night
21:42:04 <robyduck> good night cwickert
21:42:09 <DiscordianUK> I talk to people daily from all over the world
21:42:43 <sesivany> ok, folks, I think we should end the meeting soon 'cause it's getting late.
21:42:47 <Affix> any way thats all from me about fedora-uk
21:43:01 <heffer> i have "one last thing" :D
21:43:04 <sesivany> if you have something important to say, please say it now.
21:43:14 <sesivany> heffer: go ahead.
21:43:29 <DiscordianUK> Good night thank you for letting me natter
21:43:45 <heffer> I'd just like to thank gnokii for his support with organizing FrOSCon, especially when i was busy. he's been of great help!
21:44:38 <heffer> EOF
21:44:50 <Affix> Was a nice productive meeting this evening
21:44:56 <Affix> and thanks to sesivany for charing
21:45:00 <Affix> chairing**
21:45:46 <sesivany> thank you, everyone, for coming tonight!
21:46:49 <sesivany> I'm not sure if I can chair the next meeting in two weeks because it will be the evening right before GUADEC 2013 which I'm organizing. So I might be busy. But I'll try.
21:47:02 <jamielinux> Good night all!
21:47:20 <sesivany> #endmeeting