21:00:36 #startmeeting EMEA ambassadors 2013-12-04 21:00:36 Meeting started Wed Dec 4 21:00:36 2013 UTC. The chair is sesivany. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 21:00:36 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 21:00:43 #meetingname emea ambassadors 21:00:43 The meeting name has been set to 'emea_ambassadors' 21:00:48 #topic Roll call 21:00:51 .fas churchyard 21:00:52 mhroncok: churchyard 'Miro Hrončok' 21:00:53 .fas gnokii 21:00:54 hi 21:00:54 .fas eischmann 21:00:54 gnokii: gnokii 'Sirko Kemter' 21:00:55 .fas kmf 21:00:56 .fas mailga 21:00:56 .fas geleimate 21:00:58 sesivany: eischmann 'Jiri Eischmann' 21:01:01 kmf: kmfcandu 'Kyle Fletcher' - kmf 'Karl Fischer' 21:01:02 .fas sidki 21:01:02 .fas bookwar 21:01:03 .fas zoltanh721 21:01:03 mailga: mailga 'Gabriele Trombini' 21:01:06 geleimate: geleimate 'Máté Gelei' 21:01:10 .fas tonydyer 21:01:12 Sidkizz: sidki 'Sidki KBOUBI' 21:01:15 bookwar: bookwar 'Aleksandra Fedorova' 21:01:18 zoltanh7211: zoltanh721 'Hoppár Zoltán' 21:01:21 tonydyer: tonydyer 'Tony Dyer' 21:01:58 .fas mrunge 21:01:58 mrunge: mrunge 'Matthias Runge' 21:02:04 .fas geroldka 21:02:05 GeroldKa: geroldka 'Gerold Kassube' 21:02:29 .fas Guest46611 21:02:29 Guest46611: 'Guest46611' Not Found! 21:02:37 tonydyer: welcome! 21:02:50 Hello all! 21:03:02 hi 21:03:05 Guest46611: having trouble or makeing fun of zodbot? 21:03:25 hi guys 21:03:30 hi 21:03:34 let's wait a few more minutes if more will show up. 21:04:16 .fas Guest46611 21:04:17 Guest46611: 'Guest46611' Not Found! 21:04:21 hello everyone 21:04:48 hi all 21:04:48 .fas robyduck 21:04:48 robyduck: robyduck 'Robert Mayr' 21:04:50 sorry for being late 21:04:52 hi all 21:04:54 Guest46611: use your FAS username 21:04:58 .fas giallu 21:05:00 giallu: giallu 'Gianluca Sforna' 21:05:04 Hey Guest46611, you've got to use ".fas YOUR_FAS_NAME_HERE" 21:05:10 .fas mohamed94 21:05:10 Guest46611: mohamed94 'Mohammed Tayeh' 21:05:17 Yep, that. 21:05:23 thanks 21:05:28 Sure, no problems :) 21:05:31 ok, let's get started. 21:05:33 sesivany, pls start, it's late 21:05:36 it's 1 a.m in Moscow, so i won't be here till the end, but I am prepared for the FAD, so we meet there :) 21:05:41 Guest46611: and use /nick mohamed94 21:05:43 #topic Announcements 21:05:44 and I need to sand up in 6 h again 21:06:00 any announcements? 21:06:08 ! 21:06:17 GeroldKa: go ahead 21:06:33 FAD will be on the next weekend with a very, very special social event 21:06:37 :-) 21:06:38 eof 21:06:44 coool 21:06:46 :D 21:06:58 GeroldKa: looking forward to that! 21:07:09 yes, it will be cool and cold 21:07:23 and stormy 21:07:44 FYI there will be EMEA FAD in Rheinfelden this weekend where we will gather to work on the next years's plans and budget. 21:08:33 #info there will be EMEA FAD in Rheinfelden this weekend where we will gather to work on the next years's plans and budget. 21:08:42 any other announcements? 21:08:42 GeroldKa: cold? Wasn't Rheinfelden the warmest corner of Germany? 21:08:53 it IS 21:08:57 Hi, I'm Mohamed Tayeh. I'm from Palestine and I want to be a Fedora ambassador. 21:09:02 not is wasn't 21:09:02 .fas thunderbirdtr 21:09:04 thunderbirdtr: thunderbirdtr 'Onuralp SEZER' 21:09:05 sorry late... . 21:09:08 mohamed94: hi 21:09:14 GeroldKa: :) 21:09:17 good evening everyone 21:09:25 Oh, hey there! 21:09:50 good evening thunderbirdtr 21:10:14 if there are no other announcements, let's move on to the next topic. 21:10:24 #topic Requests 21:11:54 * sesivany is looking at the trac. 21:12:07 #link https://fedorahosted.org/emea-swag-tracking/ 21:12:59 I don't see any expenses we need to approve there. 21:13:28 to those who are asking for swag fro F20 events: 21:13:52 I'm getting resupplied and we're also waiting for F20 media. 21:14:02 ! 21:14:14 there is a high probability that F20 will not be released this year. 21:14:14 sesivany, is an event at around mid january good for having new swag? 21:14:19 thunderbirdtr: go ahead 21:14:48 sesivany: you already said... okey for release I wonder for DVD time but I think for blocker and bugs will be our delay again.. 21:14:55 eof 21:15:11 * giallu guess it's not... 21:15:23 giallu: if F20 is released on time I can get the media by Christmas. 21:15:38 sesivany: when ? approx ? 21:15:46 if not, we will have to wait for the next year and then it takes around 10 days. 21:16:00 hi all 21:16:01 ok. let's wait and see 21:16:11 so wait a bit longer. 21:16:18 Hi, I'm Mohamed Tayeh. I'm from Palestine and I want to be a Fedora ambassador. 21:16:27 * giallu will try to delay the release party to accomodate 21:16:48 I think it needs to be decided very soon if it's delayed or not. 21:17:02 tayeh: welcome at our meeting! 21:17:06 sesivany, sure 21:17:08 so i should cancel my reservation for the place where i'm planning it? 21:17:13 hi tayeh 21:17:14 it's for the 8th 21:17:23 Sidkizz: when do you plan it? 21:17:24 of january 21:17:38 Sidkizz: I would say good idea if you want media 21:17:42 Sidkizz: well, let's wait a few more days if F20 is delayed. 21:17:57 okey 21:18:03 Sidkizz: if it is, then cancel it and organize it a few weeks later. 21:18:18 we'll see then 21:18:36 i have alternatives anyway :) 21:18:44 Sidkizz: we have only one chance to release F20 if it's not ready for the 10th, and that's the 17th. If not it will slip to next year 21:18:46 I think the blocker bug meeting was supposed to take place tonight. So it might have already been decided. 21:19:20 clear robyduck 21:19:39 Go/No-Go Meeting is tomorrow 21:19:41 sesivany: go/nogo is tomorrow 21:19:45 ops 21:19:48 ok then 21:19:48 ;) 21:20:39 hi 21:21:03 ok, anything else to requests? 21:21:10 Hi, I'm Mohamed Tayeh. I'm from Palestine and I want to be a Fedora ambassador 21:21:37 tayeh we have heard you 21:21:47 tayeh: do not keep asking in here please .... 21:21:53 please wait till open floor 21:21:59 1 21:22:03 btw, if you want me to bring any swag/t-shirts to Rheinfelden, let me know by tomorrow. 21:22:08 tayeh: understood, this is the regular ambassador meeting, to become an active ambassador please follow the steps on the wiki 21:22:17 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors_Join_start 21:22:32 ok 21:22:42 you're welcome to attend this evening ;) 21:23:02 robyduck: I told tayeh to come here and introduce himself, so it's ok. But he didn't have to do it three times :) 21:23:28 the more the merrier :) 21:23:35 geleimate: +1 :) 21:23:42 #topic Ambassador's Schedule 21:23:49 #link http://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-20/f-20-ambassadors-tasks.html 21:24:26 that's pretty much what we discussed. 21:24:54 * thunderbirdtr gonna add to calendar client.... 21:25:01 we're getting to the release time, but it's still not sure if Fedora will be released on Dec 10th. 21:25:29 anyway, it's time to at least start thinking about release events :) 21:25:58 gnokii: is there already a poster for F20 events? 21:26:10 sesivany: nope 21:26:58 too bad, hopefully someone will pick it up. 21:27:28 any questions about the schedule? 21:27:56 if not, let's move on. 21:28:02 #topic Events 21:28:34 the most important event coming is the FAD in Rheinfelden. Just 2 days away. 21:29:22 GeroldKa: some ambassadors who can't come asked for some streaming such as Hangout. Do you think something like this would be possible? 21:29:36 +1 21:29:39 GeroldKa: I remember we had some problems with the connection there last year. 21:29:53 hopefully we haven't this year .-) 21:30:09 but in general, I agree 21:30:38 does anyone who is coming have a webcam? :-) 21:30:45 I don't :-( 21:30:53 me also not :-) 21:30:56 sesivany: I might be able to bring one from the lab 21:31:04 not a one, which can be usefull 21:31:10 mhroncok: that'd be great. 21:31:44 #info if you're going to FAD in Rheinfelden and have a webcam, please bring it. 21:31:47 I ahve no idea how good/bad it is or if it works with Linux :) 21:32:00 I've got a webcam, but don't know if you like it (MS) 21:32:01 mhroncok: most of gonna work 21:32:29 mailga: MS or not, if it works... it's ok :) 21:32:55 it works. :-) 21:33:07 sesivany: a little question; only one webcam or ? put more into the same PC ? 21:33:20 GeroldKa: any last minute information people should know? 21:33:54 thunderbirdtr: one is enough. I've got one, but it's just built-in in the laptop. 21:33:57 GeroldKa: maybe arriving deadline? 21:34:04 no, nothing special 21:34:39 it would be nice, if we get a "arrival" plan from each participant 21:34:40 sesivany: well then I will ask tomorrow to my friend for "HD" one for HQ in hangout at least If I can... 21:34:45 is there anythink special I need to bring, like sleeping bag, coffee, whatsoever 21:34:52 its not important to see as to hear, whats going on 21:35:00 I pick up Jiri at the airport as well as patrick later in the evening 21:35:18 yes mhroncok, good mood and a report 21:35:32 and maybe gloves ;) 21:35:34 if you're not coming to FAD, we would still appreciate your input. Please send me or Gerold a list of events and activities worth doing in your area in 2014. 21:35:47 #info if you're not coming to FAD, we would still appreciate your input. Please send me or Gerold a list of events and activities worth doing in your area in 2014. 21:35:52 Geroldka: we coming at 15:00 - 3 person can be picked up at the airport? 21:36:09 GeroldKa: i plan to come by the same plane as cwickert 21:36:16 zoltanh7211: good timing, we're arriving at 15:10 :-) 21:36:26 yay !! :) 21:36:51 wow 21:36:55 15:00 h 21:37:06 Jiri will arrive also near the same time, right? 21:37:23 15:10 h if I'm correct 21:37:25 so lot of people together, maybe worthy to wait each other 21:37:25 GeroldKa: yes, 10 minutes later. 21:37:34 correct 21:37:37 +1 21:37:41 how many are you jiri? 21:37:45 1 or 2 21:37:51 2 21:38:03 Fabian is also coming with car? 21:38:03 damned :-( too much for one car 21:38:11 so my wife must be also transport 21:38:17 guess yes 21:38:48 robyduck maybe also... ? 21:39:09 mhroncok: yes, same for giallu and mailga 21:39:13 GeroldKa: if there are not enough capacity in cars, some of us just could take a train, it's a bit tricky to get to German Rheinfelden, but not such a big problem. 21:39:32 ok, we'll work it out at the airport 21:39:50 don't forget to "escape" to FRANCE and not to Switzerland 21:40:00 robyduck: what happened to marina that she gave up so quickly? 21:40:04 bookwar, when will you arrive with cwickert? 21:40:19 GeroldKa: it is 6:30 PM 21:40:42 ok, .... 21:40:54 so I also pick u both up at the airport 21:41:13 sesivany: we could talk about that in the weekend, but she started working and she didn't want to remain inactive 21:41:34 GeroldKa: cool 21:41:39 fair enough on the one hand .... 21:41:41 but it was a surprise also for us :( 21:41:45 but on the other ... 21:41:57 we have so much less active people listed 21:41:58 GeroldKa: u mean ur wife will drive a car for transport ;) 21:41:58 ok, anything else to FAD? because I've got one more event to discuss tonight :-) 21:42:18 not from my pov 21:42:52 and the event is nothing less than FOSDEM. 21:43:03 #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FOSDEM_2013 21:43:17 the number of participants signed up is massive. 21:43:22 over 30 21:43:27 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FOSDEM_2014 21:44:04 still very good at 13... 21:44:46 mhroncok: thanks... yes, it's late and I woke up at 5 am :-) 21:44:58 so the number is not so massive in the end :) 21:45:15 which number sesivany? 21:45:21 people who run the booth? 21:45:35 * mhroncok clicked on the link and was surprised how many folks are there when it was 13 few hours back 21:45:35 GeroldKa: number of participants 21:45:50 GeroldKa: but we definitely have enough people for the booth. 21:46:02 it's just not 31 people in total like last year. 21:46:23 there are quite a lot of people asking for sponsorship. 21:46:40 please create a ticket with exact amounts we're asking for. 21:46:56 ! 21:47:11 our budget for FOSDEM is small due to cuts, but it's the end of fiscal year and there will be money left. So don't worry. 21:47:19 GeroldKa: go ahead. 21:47:41 to be honest, for FOSDEM there was never in the past a "sponsorship" as Event, we just sponsored some people from "not so rich countrys" to attend 21:47:48 but that was single sponsorship 21:48:24 and I wonder if now there are the requests raising up 21:48:45 eof 21:49:28 GeroldKa: I don't know the history. FOSDEM 2013 was my first FOSDEM and Robyn sponsored some people, not many thought. Around 3. 21:49:59 all American were RH employees 21:50:11 and pay their expenses with their own budget 21:50:25 GeroldKa: no Americans will be sponsored from EMEA budget. 21:50:28 yes, there was a sponsorship for th eflights of some greek, some years ago 21:50:33 right 21:50:55 but as I said 21:50:59 in general 21:51:02 last year, we sponsored one guy from Czech, one from Kosovo, one from Greece I think. 21:51:20 there was no sponsorship for the event 21:52:13 because projects were also free at FOSDEM 21:52:40 yes, devroom and booth stand are also booked already. 21:54:15 the thing is that FOSDEM is at the end of the fiscal year and if there is money left in the budget it's more or less about spending the money or giving them up completely. So I don't see such a problem to sponsor good contributors if there is money left. 21:55:23 but yes, primarily it's not a sponsorship event. E.g. I didn't ask for sponsorship last year, and won't ask this year either. 21:56:23 and there is one more event I'd like to talk about... 21:56:49 * jonar sorry I'm late... parental duties 21:57:03 DevConf.cz 2014. We've collected talk/workshop submissions for this year. 21:57:09 over 130 of them. 21:57:20 the schedule is going to be packed again. 21:57:56 we've added one more day which is devoted solely to Fedora 21:58:48 there will be many Fedora contributors coming from both Europe and overseas and it seems to be the second most important event after Flock. 21:59:13 so if you have time, come as well: www.devconf.cz 21:59:42 unfortunately, we don't have any money in Fedora for sponsorships for this event. 22:00:37 robyduck: did the meeting take place last time? 22:01:07 sesivany: yes, but IIRC no minutes were send out 22:01:19 sesivany: that's strange... event made by RH and Fedora and no sponsorship a little bit strange. 22:01:32 #info If you're asking for sponsorship for FOSDEM, please create a ticket in our trac. 22:02:02 i plan to come to both devconf.cz and fosdem, just thinking about how to spend days in between :) 22:02:44 Sorry fellows i have to go now, so gd luck for the FAD and have a gd night 22:03:18 thunderbirdtr: we're paying accommodation for all speakers from our local budget, but we can't cover their travel expenses. Fedora didn't have any budget devoted to this event, but again it's the end of fiscal year when magical things happen :) 22:03:28 Sidkizz: good night 22:03:38 sesivany: ouchh :) 22:04:29 bookwar: too bad you're not working for Red Hat (yet), there will be a week full of sessions and meetings between the events. We will organize a bus between Brussels and Brno. 22:04:36 sesivany: I will try to join there If I can... anyway 22:04:37 #topic Openfloor 22:06:05 if you have any random topics to discuss, it's the time :) 22:06:31 sesivany: searching my pencil to write here but still I'm lost :) 22:06:49 sesivany: i think i'll take certain train route with a lot of stops, there is a lot of places one could visit :) 22:07:12 for sure bookwar 22:07:22 trip through western Europe 22:07:38 bookwar: means you will go over Munich or Dresden 22:07:55 she starts at Brussels 22:08:10 she can also drive via paris 22:08:14 ;-) 22:08:19 the City of Love 22:08:51 hi all 22:08:58 i'm mohammed tayeh 22:08:59 I'm from Palestine 22:09:01 GeroldKa: I'm not sure for "Love" :) 22:09:15 GeroldKa: yeah, in Europe everything is close enough ) 22:09:20 I want to be a Fedora ambassador 22:09:23 muahuaaaaaa 22:09:37 that sounds like "american culture" but not russian 22:09:55 Has Paul Mellors departure been mentioned? 22:10:01 depends always how small you scale your map 22:10:12 unfortunately yes 22:10:12 tayeh: welcome to Fedora Project and good luck with your mentorship! ;) 22:10:43 jonar: no, I haven't had time to write him. It's definitely a loss. 22:11:01 Thank you 22:11:13 sesivany, yes it would seem that way.. Just thought it prudent to mention it 22:11:30 Hello guys! 22:11:38 #info Paul Mellors sent his farewell. The new mentor for the UK is Keiran Smith. 22:12:07 ferox: hi 22:12:36 jonar, have a look http://etbe.coker.com.au/2007/08/27/never-irc-as-root/ 22:13:10 sesivany: That is first meeting, I'm kinda lost here! HEeheheh! 22:13:58 ferox: no problem, you can just follow it first time and maybe take an active role next time ;) 22:14:09 geroldka, thanks I dont normally but this box isn't important 22:14:48 It's just your box 22:15:06 a vm 22:16:34 ok, let's not make this meeting endless, shall we? Thank you for attending tonight. 22:16:49 and meet you in two weeks! 22:16:56 bye and thanks 22:16:58 sesivany: set to bomb :) 22:17:01 sesivany: OK! 22:17:04 and some of you in two days ;) 22:17:11 sesivany: +10000000000000000 :) 22:17:18 see you guys 22:17:19 good night 22:17:24 good night 22:17:26 good night, see you! 22:17:27 good night everyone !! 22:17:34 night 22:17:38 good night all 22:17:39 Thank you and goodbye 22:17:43 #endmeeting