21:00:13 <giannisk> #startmeeting EMEA ambassadors 2015-10-28
21:00:13 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Oct 28 21:00:13 2015 UTC.  The chair is giannisk. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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21:00:17 <giannisk> #meetingname emea ambassadors
21:00:17 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'emea_ambassadors'
21:00:31 <giannisk> #chair giannisk mitzie
21:00:31 <zodbot> Current chairs: giannisk mitzie
21:00:36 <giannisk> #topic Roll Call
21:00:46 <giannisk> Let's see how many people we are here ;)
21:00:47 <lupinix> .fas lupinix
21:00:48 <zodbot> lupinix: lupinix 'Christian Dersch' <lupinix@mailbox.org>
21:00:48 <mailga> .fas mailga
21:00:51 <giannisk> use .fas yourusername
21:00:51 <zodbot> mailga: mailga 'Gabriele Trombini' <g.trombini@gmail.com>
21:00:54 <andreasch> .fas andreasch
21:00:54 <zodbot> andreasch: andreasch 'Andreas Christoforou' <aceoscy@gmail.com>
21:00:54 <giannisk> .fas giannisk
21:00:57 <zodbot> giannisk: giannisk 'Giannis Konstantinidis' <giannis@konstantinidis.cc>
21:01:08 <mitzie> .fas mitzie
21:01:09 <zodbot> mitzie: mitzie 'Zacharias Mitzelos' <mitzie@mitzelos.com>
21:01:28 <jonatoni> .fas jonatoni
21:01:28 <zodbot> jonatoni: jonatoni 'Jona Azizaj' <jonaazizaj@gmail.com>
21:02:52 <giannisk> Welcome everyone to another meeting for the EMEA region.
21:03:00 <giannisk> I will be acting as the chair for this time.
21:03:16 <giannisk> A kind reminder that the meeting protocol is in effect.
21:03:30 <giannisk> That means, if you'd like to say something type !
21:03:34 <netSys> Hi everybody
21:03:38 <giannisk> If you'd like to ask something, type ?
21:03:46 <giannisk> And when you're done speaking, type eof.
21:03:51 * giannisk waves at netSys
21:03:59 <giannisk> #info The meeting protocol is in effect. Please see https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_use_IRC#Meeting_Protocol
21:04:14 <giannisk> Our agenda for today is here:
21:04:16 <twohot> .fas twohot
21:04:16 <zodbot> twohot: twohot 'Onyeibo Oku' <twohotis@gmail.com>
21:04:16 <netSys> A long time ago I didn't join on it
21:04:20 <netSys> .fas netSys
21:04:21 <giannisk> #info Our agenda: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:EMEA_Ambassadors_2015-10-28#Agenda
21:04:21 <zodbot> netSys: netsysdeb 'Debashis' <debashis@mail.org> - drnetsys 'Donnie Roberson' <droberson@drnetworksystems.com> - netsys 'Alvaro Castillo' <midgoon@gmail.com>
21:04:47 <rsc> robert 'Robert Scheck' <redhat@linuxnetz.de>
21:04:47 <giannisk> We can move on to the next topic, which is Announcements.
21:05:19 <giannisk> #topic Announcements
21:05:26 <giannisk> I've got one to make.
21:05:39 <giannisk> The F23 Final release date got postponed.
21:05:55 <giannisk> According to the schedule, the (new) planned release date is on 3rd November.
21:06:01 <giannisk> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/23/Schedule
21:06:21 <giannisk> Also, there's some interesting read on the Fedora Magazine from our FPL.
21:06:24 <giannisk> Let me find it.
21:06:55 <giannisk> #link http://fedoramagazine.org/fedora-23-pushed-back-one-week/
21:07:01 <giannisk> There it is.
21:07:20 <giannisk> Any questions so far?
21:07:53 <netSys> No, always postponed will be save quality of distro, It is good
21:08:16 <lupinix> btw RC6 is available for testing
21:08:19 <giannisk> netSys: yeap, most of the times it works like that
21:08:43 <lupinix> https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/6266#comment:20
21:10:20 <giannisk> lupinix: thanks for sharing this with us
21:10:41 <giannisk> Anyone else who wishes to make an announcement?
21:11:13 <lupinix> no more announcements here
21:12:13 <giannisk> We can move on to the next topic then.
21:12:25 <giannisk> #topic Requests
21:12:34 * giannisk takes a look at the EMEA trac.
21:12:59 <giannisk> #link https://fedorahosted.org/emea-swag-tracking/report/1?asc=0&sort=created&page=1
21:13:22 <giannisk> #info Ticket #520 - Budget request for Fedora 23 release party
21:13:29 <giannisk> #link https://fedorahosted.org/emea-swag-tracking/ticket/520
21:14:00 <giannisk> So, together with mitzie we will be holding a F23 Release Party in our university.
21:14:22 <giannisk> We will give a series of presentations, then proceed with an installfest.
21:14:58 <giannisk> We're asking for some (limited) funds, up to 40 EUR that is, to order some pizzas and beverages for the event participants.
21:15:09 <giannisk> We've got plenty swag already.
21:15:24 <giannisk> More info about the event are available on the following wiki page:
21:15:27 <giannisk> #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_Event_F23_Samos
21:15:46 <giannisk> mitzie: want to add something? did I forget about something?
21:15:46 <netSys> It is nice
21:16:11 <giannisk> s/forget about something/forget something
21:16:12 <netSys> Maybe would be add some stickers for RP's guest?
21:16:51 <giannisk> netSys: excuse me, RP's is?
21:17:00 <netSys> (Release Party), sorry
21:17:07 <giannisk> netSys: oh right, right
21:17:22 <giannisk> netSys: well we do have plenty of stickers :)
21:17:33 <lupinix> sounds nice
21:17:35 <netSys> nice ^-^
21:18:00 <giannisk> Can we vote on this?
21:18:16 <mailga> +1
21:18:20 <netSys> +1
21:18:22 <jonatoni> +1
21:18:27 <giannisk> I'm also more than happy to answer your questions, if you have any :)
21:18:28 <lupinix> +1
21:19:10 <giannisk> 4 votes so far, we need at least 1 more.
21:19:27 <lupinix> giannisk: yes i have some questions, but better topic for events
21:19:29 <andreasch> +1
21:19:43 <giannisk> 5 votes, approved.
21:19:47 <giannisk> Thank you everyone.
21:19:50 <giannisk> lupinix: sure
21:20:03 <giannisk> #info Ticket #520 Approved
21:20:21 <giannisk> So, what's next.
21:20:33 <netSys> awesome
21:20:34 <giannisk> Ticket #516 is approved on peer review basis, from what I see.
21:21:11 <giannisk> I see Ticket #513 here.
21:21:20 <giannisk> Anyone from the Hungarian community around?
21:22:13 <giannisk> Let's discuss about it at least.
21:22:28 <giannisk> #info Ticket #513 - We would like to create new balloon for events
21:22:35 <giannisk> #link https://fedorahosted.org/emea-swag-tracking/ticket/513
21:22:46 <giannisk> This is Zoltan's ticket.
21:22:53 <giannisk> Unfortunately, he's not around.
21:23:08 <giannisk> And I can't see anyone from the Hungarian community around either.
21:23:36 <giannisk> His suggestion is to produce fedora balloons for events, as the title suggests.
21:24:01 <netSys> 500 pc would be a lot of ballons?
21:24:12 <giannisk> However, it's not clearly stated how much money is being requested.
21:24:44 <giannisk> netSys: Well it depends. If it's for the Hungarian community, it's enough. If it's for the whole EMEA region, then I believe we should produce a lot more.
21:25:30 <giannisk> Anyways, the request is not very clear. And I think the best thing is to ask some more info from Zoltan, rather than vote during this meeting.
21:25:34 <netSys> So, It's not clear for who will be this balloons
21:25:40 <lupinix> loooks like 115,42€ requested
21:25:42 * mailga has to go, sorry... see you soon people.
21:25:51 <netSys> see yo mailga
21:25:57 <giannisk> netSys: Exactly.
21:26:03 * giannisk waves at mailga
21:26:18 <giannisk> lupinix: Most likely yes, but I don't want to make a guess here.
21:26:48 <giannisk> I'd prefer to have Zoltan confirm this.
21:26:53 <lupinix> yes, we should request some more information and move it to next meeting imho
21:26:53 <giannisk> What's your opinion?
21:27:02 <giannisk> lupinix: perfect
21:27:03 <netSys> Yes, It's better before approve something not clear
21:27:28 <giannisk> Do we all agree to discuss about this ticket during the next meeting?
21:27:33 <giannisk> +1 or -1 please
21:27:35 <netSys> +1
21:27:39 <lupinix> +1
21:27:41 <jonatoni> +1
21:27:44 <mitzie> +1
21:27:48 <andreasch> +1
21:28:27 <giannisk> #info Ticket #513 needs some clarifications. To be discussed again in the next meeting.
21:28:36 <giannisk> Thank you everyone.
21:28:53 <giannisk> I don't see any other requests that need to be voted.
21:28:59 <giannisk> Any questions so far?
21:29:08 <lupinix> ?
21:29:15 <giannisk> lupinix: yes please
21:29:44 <lupinix> ticket #518
21:29:54 <lupinix> request for DVD
21:30:04 <lupinix> are there any news about media production?
21:30:41 <giannisk> lupinix: Swag & Media Requests do not need to be voted during the EMEA meeting :)
21:30:56 <giannisk> lupinix: I'm afraid I've no clue about the F23 Media productions.
21:30:57 <lupinix> yes, question is: do we produce media for F23?
21:31:08 <giannisk> lupinix: I guess sesivany should be on this.
21:31:46 <lupinix> ok, thanks giannisk :)
21:31:52 <lupinix> eof
21:31:55 <giannisk> lupinix: my pleasure :)
21:32:05 <giannisk> Moving on to the next topic.
21:32:12 <giannisk> #topic Ambassadors Schedule
21:32:26 * giannisk looks for the link to the ambassadors schedule
21:33:05 <giannisk> #link https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-23/f-23-ambassadors-tasks.html
21:33:23 <giannisk> Nothing in particular I have to mention.
21:33:53 <giannisk> Now is the time to start planning for the release events.
21:34:01 <giannisk> We can talk about these on the next topic.
21:34:48 <giannisk> Any questions here?
21:35:19 <lupinix> no
21:35:23 <netSys> nope
21:35:43 <giannisk> Moving on then.
21:35:56 <giannisk> #topic Events
21:36:07 <giannisk> Any events taking place in your region?
21:36:23 <giannisk> Would you like to report back from your recent fedora events, if you had any?
21:36:28 <giannisk> Now is the time :)
21:36:32 <netSys> Nope from Spain, at this moment
21:36:55 <frafra> !
21:37:07 <giannisk> frafra: yes please
21:37:32 <frafra> we had a national event in Italy called Linux Day, few days ago
21:38:07 <frafra> we had some stands with Fedora swags and ambassadors
21:38:25 <frafra> and I can say there's a growing Fedora community near Milan
21:38:46 <lupinix> frafra: great news, thank you!
21:38:47 <frafra> everything went quite well, and we distributed almost every F22 DVD
21:39:18 <giannisk> frafra: nice one :)
21:39:36 <netSys> Congrats frafra
21:39:38 <frafra> looks like Workstation and Alternate DVDs are loved equally
21:39:42 <frafra> eof
21:40:49 <giannisk> thanks frafra
21:40:58 <giannisk> Anyone else? :)
21:41:00 <jonatoni> !
21:41:07 <giannisk> jonatoni: yes please
21:41:25 <jonatoni> I'm jona, a new fedora ambassador in albania
21:41:51 <lupinix> jonatoni: you're welcome :)
21:42:06 <jonatoni> until now we have organized two meetups, also an event related to outreachy interships in fedora
21:42:16 <jonatoni> to involve more women
21:42:28 <netSys> welcome jonatoni
21:42:51 <jonatoni> also i'm organizing an event about localization: Fedora Localization Sprint
21:42:58 <jonatoni> this saturday
21:43:19 <jonatoni> so we are working to involve more people in our new fedora community
21:43:30 <jonatoni> eof
21:43:41 <giannisk> thanks jonatoni
21:43:47 <giannisk> Jona brings fresh new energy to the project. She's a young and very much active ambassador in Albania.
21:44:04 <giannisk> And has been doing lots of fedora-related activities so far.
21:44:12 <giannisk> Once again, welcome :)
21:44:13 <lupinix> how big is the fedora community in albania jonatoni?
21:44:45 <jonatoni> not too much
21:45:38 <giannisk> lupinix: It's a very new community, currently being set up.
21:45:40 <netSys> Sure, is more big than Spain community (2,3 people huge distance)
21:45:52 <giannisk> lupinix: But as I can see, they're doing many activities there.
21:46:01 <lupinix> very nice :)
21:46:12 <giannisk> They have a very active local hackerspace, Open Labs, in which Jona is participating.
21:46:21 <giannisk> And from there they launch their activities.
21:46:28 <lupinix> so fedora is expanding :)
21:46:47 <giannisk> lupinix: It is definitely, and personally I'm extremely excited about that :)
21:47:03 <giannisk> s/is definitely/definitely is
21:47:03 <jonatoni> but i must say that are more women that man :P
21:47:32 <lupinix> :D
21:47:44 <giannisk> jonatoni: I don't know how you guys in Open Labs manage to do it, but it's true.
21:47:55 <giannisk> jonatoni: well done
21:48:11 <jonatoni> :)
21:48:21 <giannisk> jonatoni: please keep posting more updates to the fedora planet, and elsewhere
21:48:46 <jonatoni> yes, sure
21:49:03 <giannisk> Cool. Anyone else who wishes to say something?
21:49:07 <lupinix> !
21:49:13 <giannisk> lupinix: yes please
21:49:49 <lupinix> giannisk: so you're organizing a f23 release party :) what are your plans?
21:50:12 <lupinix> i'll organize a small release party at university too
21:50:21 <lupinix> maybe i can get some inspiration
21:50:28 <giannisk> lupinix: To educate people in our university about Fedora and Free & Open Source Software in general
21:51:11 <giannisk> lupinix: And to provide them a chance to test the distro, and get it installed on their machines, If they wish to :)
21:51:38 <giannisk> That's the main goals we have set.
21:51:43 <lupinix> so quite similar to my plans
21:52:05 <lupinix> i'll present workstation and scientific spin
21:52:13 <giannisk> I will also be talking about several ways to contribute back to the fedora community.
21:52:31 <giannisk> Since I will be presenting this in front of IT students, mostly.
21:52:47 <giannisk> (We will be doing this in the IT department of our uni)
21:52:57 <lupinix> scientific spin is a very nice tool because i'm also teaching Python this semester and the spin provides everything students need
21:53:27 * lupinix is a physicist
21:53:48 <giannisk> lupinix: yes, it's a nice idea to present Fedora Scientific to them :)
21:54:04 <lupinix> so i'll try to focus on scientific stuff as applications without losing non.scientists
21:54:57 <lupinix> eof
21:55:36 <giannisk> lupinix: cool news, thanks for sharing this with us :)
21:56:26 <frafra> !
21:56:33 <giannisk> frafra: yes please
21:56:47 <frafra> I want to say very quickly that it was beautiful to look at people who attended Linux Day installing F22 and see their problems with F20/F21 and Optimus (it seems very common) fading away :) they were very satisfied and happy
21:56:54 <frafra> eof
21:57:34 <giannisk> frafra: I can imagine that :)
21:58:50 <giannisk> Anything else regarding Events?
21:58:54 <giannisk> If not, we can move on.
21:59:08 <lupinix> nothing else here
22:01:46 <giannisk> Moving on then.
22:01:50 <giannisk> #topic Action items from previous meetings
22:02:01 * giannisk looks for the link to the previous meeting minutes
22:02:34 <giannisk> #link https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015-10-14/emea_ambassadors.2015-10-14-20.00.html
22:02:51 <giannisk> No action items left from the previous meeting.
22:02:54 <giannisk> #info No action items left from the previous meeting.
22:03:00 <giannisk> Any questions here?
22:03:22 <giannisk> If not, we're moving on to the Open Floor.
22:04:17 <giannisk> #topic Open Floor
22:04:24 <frafra> ?
22:04:24 <giannisk> Anything else goes here :)
22:04:28 <giannisk> frafra: sure
22:04:44 <frafra> I sent many packages to others active ambassadors (living in Italy, like me, but very distant) containing DVD, stickers, etc., and I would like to know if I can get a reimbursement for the future (about ~7 € for shipment)
22:04:44 <frafra> I never applied for a funding request of this kind, so I would like to know if it makes sense
22:04:44 <frafra> I'm very active in the Italian community, but I'm sorry I was not such active here in EMEA, but I'm quite slow to start: it's time to grow up and became a worthy colleague of mailga, robyduck, giallu & co.
22:04:44 <frafra> I ask you to be clement with me, because I have many things to learn about how EMEA ambassador group works :)
22:04:59 <frafra> eof
22:05:37 <giannisk> frafra: You can ask for it, totally makes sense to me :)
22:05:52 <frafra> thanks giannisk
22:06:05 <giannisk> frafra: you're welcome
22:06:44 <frafra> !
22:06:48 <giannisk> frafra: sure
22:06:56 <frafra> (last thing I want to say) I personally like Jiri's handbook: I hope it could replace DVDs in the future and it seems that the great majority of the Italian community agrees on this point; the only things that dont't seem to be included (but I'm not sure, because I don't understand Czech) are the four "F" of Fedora: it could be a good presentation and explanation about how Fedora is different; eof
22:07:39 <lupinix> frafra: according to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/EMEA/Reimbursement i think it is perfectly ok
22:08:24 <frafra> thanks lupinix
22:08:28 <giannisk> frafra: The handbook is currently only in Czech, which I do not speak, so I was not that much motivated to try and read it, If you know what I mean :P
22:08:41 <giannisk> frafra: I didn't know that it doesn't cover the 4 Foundations
22:08:56 <giannisk> frafra: Yes, I also believe that it should cover those :)
22:09:11 <lupinix> yes
22:09:23 <giannisk> frafra: you can maybe send a suggestion to sesivany and the rest fellas at the Czech community that are working on it.
22:09:51 <frafra> giannisk, I'll do it, thank you for the suggestion
22:10:04 <giannisk> frafra: awesome :)
22:10:26 <giannisk> Anything else for Open Floor?
22:10:51 <lupinix> imho we should discuss about the handbook again, it would be a nice "replacement" for media like DVD
22:11:20 <lupinix> i don't know if there is a plan for translations into other langauages, production etc.
22:11:24 <lupinix> *languages
22:12:47 <giannisk> My suggestion was to only produce only 1000 DVDs this time, at least half of them should be shipped to countries in EMEA where broadband connections are not so popular.
22:13:08 <giannisk> And we can spend the rest of the budget for cool swag like the handbooks, etc.
22:13:22 <lupinix> yes
22:13:33 <giannisk> Btw: the minimum amount for DVDs to be produced is 1000, as set by the vendor.
22:14:22 <lupinix> i think we need some DVDs (in germany we still have places without broadband…), but maybe hand them out on request at events
22:14:45 <lupinix> so 1000 should be fine
22:14:47 <giannisk> lupinix: Something like that.
22:15:44 <giannisk> For me, personally, the purpose of having a Fedora DVD is to be included to my collection.
22:16:10 <giannisk> It doesn't have any other use for me.
22:16:36 <giannisk> And I believe there are people that share the same views as well.
22:16:43 * lupinix started to use the left fedora 21 media as beermats…
22:16:55 <giannisk> During LinuxCon Europe, the feedback we got from people was clear.
22:18:18 * giannisk chuckles, as he just hears what lupinix said.
22:18:38 <lupinix> :D
22:18:57 <giannisk> Anything else for Open Floor? :)
22:19:07 <lupinix> nothing else here
22:19:48 <lupinix> giannisk: thank you very much for chairing :)
22:19:50 <giannisk> Btw: If no-one else is going to soon open a discussion on the ML about the DVDs production (how many we should produce, etc.), then most likely I will.
22:20:00 <giannisk> lupinix: always a pleasure :)
22:20:06 <giannisk> We can end this meeting in 2 minutes.
22:20:59 <lupinix> so i'm out of here now, good night everyone!
22:21:10 * giannisk waves at lupinix
22:23:30 <giannisk> Thanks everyone for participating, see you again in two weeks!
22:23:37 <giannisk> #endmeeting