21:00:05 #startmeeting EMEA ambassadors 2016-01-06 21:00:05 Meeting started Wed Jan 6 21:00:05 2016 UTC. The chair is giannisk. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 21:00:05 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 21:00:05 The meeting name has been set to 'emea_ambassadors_2016-01-06' 21:00:09 #meetingname emea ambassadors 21:00:09 The meeting name has been set to 'emea_ambassadors' 21:00:14 #chair giannisk sesivany 21:00:14 Current chairs: giannisk sesivany 21:00:18 #topic Roll Call 21:00:26 .fasinfo lupinix 21:00:26 .fas eischmann 21:00:27 Let's see how many we are here :) 21:00:27 lupinix: User: lupinix, Name: Christian Dersch, email: lupinix@mailbox.org, Creation: 2011-11-09, IRC Nick: lupinix, Timezone: Europe/Berlin, Locale: en, GPG key ID: EE86DD25, Status: active 21:00:30 lupinix: Approved Groups: scitech gitspin-kickstarts cla_fpca cla_done fedorabugs packager python-sig ambassadors 21:00:33 sesivany: eischmann 'Jiri Eischmann' 21:00:33 .fas andreasch 21:00:34 .fas mailga 21:00:34 Use .fas yourusername 21:00:35 .fas jonatoni 21:00:36 andreasch: andreasch 'Andreas Christoforou' 21:00:37 .fas giannisk 21:00:39 mailga: mailga 'Gabriele Trombini' 21:00:42 jonatoni: jonatoni 'Jona Azizaj' 21:00:45 giannisk: giannisk 'Giannis Konstantinidis' 21:01:09 hi and happy new year everyone :) 21:01:39 Happy new year everyone! 21:01:52 Happy new year :) 21:01:58 Hello everyone and happy new year :) 21:02:11 Welcome to our very first meeting for 2016. 21:02:30 Let's wait one or two more minutes for others to show up. 21:03:56 hi 21:04:49 * giannisk waves at Rathann. 21:05:00 Okay, let's move on to the announcements! 21:05:00 * Rathann waves back 21:05:22 .hello decause 21:05:23 decause: decause 'Remy DeCausemaker' 21:05:31 #topic Announcements 21:05:57 #info Happy and productive new year, everyone! 21:06:17 It's been really quiet for the last two weeks, mainly because of the holidays. 21:06:51 Since the last meeting however (a month ago), we had the elections which ended. 21:07:11 There's this very nice report on the Fedora community blog about it: 21:07:17 #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/commops-2015-elections-retrospective/ 21:07:45 Speaking for FAmSCo, three candidates from EMEA were elected: me, mailga and cwickert 21:08:24 Is the new FAmSCo already in force? 21:08:31 * mailga congrats to giannisk and cwickert 21:08:35 Congratulations to everyone who got elected, to all candidates and to those who helped run the elections. :) 21:08:46 I mean in power. 21:08:51 sesivany: typically, not yet. 21:09:00 sesivany: we're planning our first meeting. 21:09:03 But I will see to it, even personally. 21:09:30 Everything was really quiet during the holidays, so yeah. 21:10:20 That's all from me, I don't have anything else in mind to be announced. 21:10:29 Anyone else who wishes to make an announcement? 21:10:52 congrats cwickert giannisk mailga ! 21:11:16 tnx lupinix 21:11:31 Congrats guys 21:12:23 Just a reminder to all of you that FAmSCo is always around to assist and enable ambassadors throughout the region. 21:13:04 So in case you need help with something, feel free to let us know :) 21:13:36 s/region/regions 21:13:48 Anything else? 21:14:35 Okay, moving on then. 21:14:53 #topic Requests 21:15:04 * giannisk takes a look at the EMEA trac. 21:15:49 #link https://fedorahosted.org/emea-swag-tracking/report/1?sort=created&page=1&asc=0 21:16:06 Okay, there's a ticket of mine for FOSDEM, which I did not want to approve myself. 21:16:30 And since it wasn't approved by another FAmSCo member or a credit card holder, we can review it here. 21:16:54 #info Ticket #540 - Funding Request for Giannis Konstantinidis - FOSDEM 2016 21:16:55 #540? 21:17:02 #link https://fedorahosted.org/emea-swag-tracking/ticket/540 21:17:05 .fas mitzie 21:17:06 mitzie: mitzie 'Zacharias Mitzelos' 21:17:10 Sorry I'm late 21:17:21 So, basically this is a funding request of mine to participate at FOSDEM. 21:17:40 I will be helping at the booth, where I will be staying for a lot of hours each day. 21:17:56 And I will be engaging with users and developers. 21:18:09 nice, thank you giannisk 21:18:14 Max. amount requested is 311 USD. 21:18:31 +1 21:18:35 +1 21:18:42 +1 21:18:46 +1 21:18:46 +1 21:18:54 +1 21:19:15 Thanks everyone, ticket approved. :) 21:19:27 #agreed Ticket #540 Approved 21:19:37 On to the next one. 21:20:06 #info Ticket #538 - Funding Request nullcon Goa 2016 21:20:11 #link https://fedorahosted.org/emea-swag-tracking/ticket/538 21:20:24 This is jsimon's ticket. 21:20:45 He's asking for ~900 EUR Nullcon Goa 2016. 21:21:17 This is just for his intercontinental flights, he mentions that accommodation and domestic flights will be covered. 21:21:37 Thoughts? 21:22:06 I read mitzie comment, so funds are ok? 21:22:08 I believe that if the budget allows it, we can go ahead with it. 21:22:10 ping mitzie 21:22:24 yes giannisk, exactly 21:22:38 jsimon was at Nullcon last year as well 21:22:42 then +1 from me 21:22:44 so +1 from me 21:22:57 +1 from me as well, provided the budget allows it 21:23:02 +1 21:23:04 +1 21:23:05 +1 21:23:08 +1 21:23:22 Approved. 21:23:39 #agreed Ticket #538 Approved. 21:23:55 ! 21:24:10 lupinix: sure 21:24:13 is there some kind of overview for our budget? 21:24:28 There is a wiki page. 21:24:46 lupinix: yes 21:24:52 Let me find the link, or mitzie if he can do it fairly more quicker than me. 21:25:08 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/EMEA/Budget:2016 21:25:08 #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/EMEA/Budget:2016 21:25:15 ^This. 21:25:17 thank you :D 21:25:30 posted at the same second :P 21:26:10 This fiscal year ends in February. 21:26:28 And I think we still have some funds left. mitzie, how much would that be approximately? 21:27:02 lupinix: Take a look at the spreadsheet for more details 21:28:09 giannisk: Considering some tickets that we approved recently, about ~7k$ 21:28:34 That's a significant amount of money. 21:29:01 giannisk: exactly. And we can use them until 29 of February 21:29:07 And I think we still have time to spend a portion of it wisely. 21:29:18 Let's talk about that later on. 21:29:26 Anything else regarding Requests? 21:29:31 Any questions? 21:29:31 Unused fudns unfortunately can not be transferred in the next FY 21:29:48 mitzie: yes, thanks for clarifying this. 21:29:51 *funds 21:30:19 Moving on to the next topic then. 21:30:24 and I think next budget could be lower. 21:30:59 mailga: If we cannot spend the money, then there is a chance it could be lower next time. 21:31:13 mailga: probably yes 21:31:33 I can spend a lot, just tell me. 21:31:42 we can order a lot of swag :) 21:31:54 ^Had this in mind, let's talk about it later :) 21:31:57 sesivany: it make sense. 21:31:58 would be a nice solution :D 21:32:20 sesivany: yes, extra swag would be beneficial 21:32:21 Okay, on to the next topic fellas. :) 21:32:34 #topic Ambassadors Schedule 21:32:48 * giannisk looks for the link to the schedule. 21:33:07 #link https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-24/f-24-ambassadors-tasks.html 21:33:24 dnf install shogun-data 21:33:31 oop 21:33:36 *oops, sorry 21:33:39 lupinix :P 21:33:46 lupinix: I see what you did there :P 21:33:57 :D 21:34:59 Nothing particular in regards to the schedule that I'm going to comment. 21:35:17 Any questions? Would you like to add something? 21:35:21 ! 21:35:29 mailga: please 21:36:13 in the last release a coordinatio between mktg and ambassadors never happened. 21:36:43 For the F24 release my intention is to change this state of things 21:37:07 so there will be a briefing according to the mktg schedule. 21:37:11 eof 21:37:25 Marketing and Ambassadors should be staying really close, indeed. 21:37:32 Thanks mailga. :) 21:37:43 Is there any urgent need for design efforts? I might be able to mobilize something 21:38:07 Hey elioqoshi, welcome :) 21:38:17 Strolling by, thanks! 21:38:20 Can you introduce yourself? :) 21:38:26 First time I see you in the meeting. 21:38:55 Of course, jonatoni told me there would be a meeting today 21:39:34 Guilty Windows Designer and Gamer, but with a laptop running Fedora on it and loving it. Trying to learn GIMP and Inkscape 21:39:56 Mozilla Representative, Board Member at Open Labs Hackerspace, Author and Community Manager at SitePoint.com 21:40:20 and co-organizer of OSCAL, which Fedora is kindly supporting in May 2016 :) 21:40:34 Oh, and I'm based in Tirana, Albania (but grew up in Germany) 21:41:05 eof 21:41:16 thanks elioqoshi 21:41:36 I'm sure you can co-ordinate with the Design Team, see if there are in need of any artwork. 21:41:56 Let me know later If you need any help with that. 21:42:32 there is never enough designers. 21:42:34 Thanks giannisk 21:42:58 Indeed sesivany, you should check out opensourcedesign.net 21:42:58 Anything else regarding the schedule, everyone? 21:42:59 sesivany: +1 21:43:16 If not, we can move on to the next topic, Events. 21:44:20 Okay. 21:44:29 #topic Events 21:44:51 We've just had CCC :) 21:44:57 ! 21:45:08 giannisk: yes! :) 21:45:12 mitzie, you were there :) along with till and gitne AFAIK 21:45:16 mitzie: sure 21:45:45 So last week we were in Chaos Communication Congress or 32C3 for short, with tyll and gitne, held in Hamburg. 21:46:22 We had a booth there, which at CCC they are called "Assemblies", and we managed to move our assembly to a very central location that a lot of people come by. 21:46:59 The total attendees each day were ~12k, so you can imagine that a *lot* of people were coming by our assembly :) 21:47:39 Tyll also had the idea to give away some blue chocolates at our assembly, that also brought people at our assembly 21:47:57 And finally we managed to give away all of our swag and media ;) 21:47:58 eof 21:48:10 You mean the packaging was blue, right? :P 21:48:20 don't forget to write an event report on Planet Fedora. 21:48:20 yes :P 21:48:20 mitzie++ very nice! 21:48:20 lupinix: Karma for mitzie changed to 1 (for the f23 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 21:48:30 seems like a successful event. 21:48:32 sesivany: sure 21:48:50 Yes, looks like it was very successful, congrats. 21:49:00 ! 21:49:07 thank you lupinix and giannisk 21:49:07 mitzie: do you think we should focus on 32C3 even more next year? 21:49:29 That's good to hear. It didn't have that big of an impact for Mozilla this time as Mozillians were quite unorganized. Good to see Fedora having a clear plan here. 21:49:47 Considering that it is a very large foss-related event, equal to FOSDEM or even greater than that. 21:50:04 It's actually bigger than FOSDEM regarding attendance giannisk 21:50:17 I would say that it was a very promising and successful event, with lots of different kinds of people (coming from windows or other distros, etc) 21:50:28 elioqoshi, regarding the attendance, yeap :) 21:51:02 So yeah, we could bring more people on board next time 21:51:06 Great, thanks again. 21:51:09 sesivany: sure 21:51:33 can I go ahead? 21:51:41 sesivany: please do :) 21:51:51 just a little note to FOSDEM... 21:52:23 I'd also like to make it a successful event for us, if you have any idea how to make our booth special, let me know. 21:52:45 bear in mind that all of us are flying there, we can't really build something big there. 21:53:18 eof 21:53:35 sesivany: exactly, I have been thinking of that also, but have come up with any solid plan yet. 21:53:39 actually the attendance was very high, so we were always busy with people. We didn't show off something particular except from one or two PCs 21:53:51 I will be giving 2 talks at the Open Source Design Track. We will be having also some space for projects to ask for design help there, so maybe keep that in mind. 21:53:57 at FOSDEM I mean 21:54:05 eof 21:54:19 Could we have a 3D printer perhaps in FOSDEM like 2014? 21:54:30 that would be very interesting 21:55:08 But as you said we are all flying there 21:55:12 not unless spot brings one 21:55:14 The Fedora booth from FOSDEM 2015 is easy to top TBH 21:55:26 no one from Brno is bringing it, Miro is not coming. 21:56:31 I see 21:56:44 sesivany: bringingg up your idea for the t-shirt, what about a t-shirt for each new fas account in there? 21:57:00 we'll have up to 100 t-shirts for FOSDEM. 21:57:03 Pidora has been dead for years also, can't play around with RPi or something like that at the booth. 21:57:20 Good idea mailga 21:57:35 and also hats 21:58:04 Hats are a great idea, I think we haven't produced these kind of hats before 21:58:16 * mailga is still using pidora 21:58:39 and you can run stock Fedora on the new raspberry. 21:58:44 * giannisk wonders if mailga is running F21 on that Pidora instance. 21:59:08 sesivany: on the new one. 21:59:16 * mailga not at all... :-D 21:59:19 Last year I was in the Fosdem Openstack booth and lot of people came to take t-shirt we need more t-shirts 21:59:44 anyway, we'll need at least 2 computers for showcasing. 22:00:19 I -might- be able to bring a monitor as well. 22:00:27 andreasch: t-shirts have to be used as way to get a target IMHO. T-shirt for nothing is a waste of money. IMHO. 22:01:03 giannisk: hmm, nice idea, I could try bringing a smaller one I have 22:01:12 definitely not t-shirts for nothing 22:02:32 I'm sorry to be offtopic, but what can I do to get a TShirt? *tries not to be excited* 22:03:09 elioqoshi: becoming Ambassador you'll get a polo :-D 22:03:15 elioqoshi's question makes sense, we need to define criteria fort those who want to get a t-shirt 22:03:19 mailga: +1 :) 22:03:24 s/fort/for 22:03:30 hi 22:03:38 sesivany: If I remember correctly last year we didn't have roll-up banners at FOSDEM, so we could bring 2 that we have in Greece 22:03:56 giannisk, I'm a man of simple tastes, a TShirt satisfies me, even without a polo :D 22:04:08 mitzie: yes, solid idea 22:04:18 * giannisk chuckles at elioqoshi. 22:04:21 mitzie: a roll-up banner would help, yes. 22:04:57 Anything else regarding FOSDEM? 22:05:05 We can always resume the discussion over the ML. 22:05:14 hello 22:05:23 * giannisk waves at hhlp. 22:05:27 sesivany: I'll put it in the to-bring list ;) 22:05:29 eof 22:05:40 !hi 22:05:53 I'm in time in order to fill a ticket for FOSDEM? Or there are too many people? 22:05:57 hhlp: use .fas yourusername 22:06:20 .fas hhlp hi 22:06:20 hhlp: 'hhlp hi' Not Found! 22:06:49 .fas hhlp 22:06:49 hhlp: hhlp 'Héctor H. Louzao P.' 22:06:52 mailga: you wanna join us at the booth? We still have some of the adjusted budget left, right mitzie? 22:07:11 hi 22:07:17 hi hhlp 22:07:20 mailga: You can still file a ticket, yes 22:07:21 .fas frantisekz 22:07:21 frantisekz: frantisekz 'František Zatloukal' 22:07:22 I'm not sure about the hotel though. 22:07:31 giannisk: of course, I'll be at the booth for the most of the time. 22:07:42 but contact sesivany for accommodation because I think that the rooms are full 22:08:21 mitzie: thanks. I'll get in touch with Jiri for accomodation. 22:08:24 the 3 rooms I booked are full. You'd have to book something else. 22:08:51 sesivany: I can do by myself. 22:09:04 hello! 22:09:19 hhlp: hello, hello, we got your message :) 22:10:08 Anything else regarding FOSDEM? 22:10:48 I think we are good 22:10:54 sesivany: are we going to plan that mini-FAD during DevConf? 22:10:54 not from me 22:11:01 Any updates regarding that? 22:11:24 giannisk: venue is available, that's all I can say. 22:11:40 Unfortunately, I didn't have the time to reply on the ML again. 22:11:55 But I can try to resume the discussion. 22:12:06 I've got FOSDEM a week before, then a lot of things at work and then organizing DevConf, so I can't organize it myself. 22:12:46 I think that it is our best option to have a meetup there, plenty of contributors will already be there 22:13:04 Especially now that we didn't organize a FAD this year 22:13:20 sesivany: I see. If you can just arrange the venue it would be great. Mitzie or me or someone else could organise the rest. 22:14:21 Everyone: We need to plan our budget for the next FY and also co-ordinate between our communities. 22:14:42 And since the FAD did not take place unfortunately, we could give it another shot at DevConf. 22:14:54 There will be a lot of people from EMEA attending. 22:15:19 And there's some budget left, so we could fly a few leading contributors to represent their communities. 22:15:21 giannisk: Yes, and it would be much more convenient to do these kind of stuff at DevConf, instead of online 22:16:15 Let's continue the discussion on the ML, shall we? :) 22:16:23 Also the FPL and decause will also be there 22:16:37 And we could also talk about budget.next with decause 22:17:10 giannisk: yes, there are a lot of things to discuss on this topic. A meeting is not enough- 22:17:16 mitzie: +1 22:18:00 Okay, moving on to the next topic. 22:18:28 And we can bring the discussion about the mini-FAD over to the ML. 22:18:59 #topic Action items from previous meetings 22:19:09 * giannisk looks for the previous meeting minutes. 22:19:58 #link https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015-12-09/emea_ambassadors.2015-12-09-21.00.html 22:20:36 I had an action item assigned to me, which I did not complete unfortunately. 22:20:51 #action giannisk Send a Reminder on the Ambassadors ML regarding the EMEA Inventory Cleanup. 22:21:10 It was regarding the EMEA Inventory Cleanup, I will see to it. 22:21:14 Any questions? 22:21:57 If not, we can move on to the Open Floor. 22:22:54 Alrighty then. 22:23:00 #topic Open Floor 22:23:06 Anything else goes here. :) 22:23:24 I'd like to propose something, actually. 22:24:18 We can make sure that all active communities within the region are equipped with basic booth equipment, incl. roll-up banners and tableclothes. 22:24:41 nice idea 22:25:17 I don't think all communities own proper booth equipment, or even if they do sometimes that equipment is torn out (old banners, with faded colors) 22:25:46 Yay, finally table clothes for Albania/ 22:25:47 So we can basically ask all active communities to fill in a wiki page and tell us what do they currently have, and in what condition. 22:26:05 And we can massively produce banners and tableclothes and ship them. 22:26:17 the rollups we had @froscon are also quite battered (don't know if we have more) 22:26:26 we had to fix them using duck tape 22:26:34 We still have a significant amount of money left, so we can do it. 22:27:05 lupinix: I see exactly what you mean. The banners we have in Greece are in a similar condition as well. 22:27:40 Ideas? Thoughts? Feedback? 22:28:11 +1 22:28:52 I'm thinking of reviving the Fedora community in Poland this year, so such stuff would be nice to have. 22:28:57 I like this 22:29:53 In some cases we were asking a tablecloth for an event, and because we had only one (or two?) in the region, it was not easy to ship it to us 22:30:09 ^This 22:30:38 We could produce like 10 tableclothes for the region and ship them to active communities. 22:31:06 Okay, since it's a bit late and people might be tired, let me post on the ML. 22:31:11 And we can take it from there. 22:31:11 which equipment do we need per active community? 4 rollups + 2 table cloth? (should be enough for 2 events) 22:31:27 I think 2+1 are enough 22:31:31 1 roll-up + 1 table cloth at minumum. 22:31:40 But it depends on the size of that community. 22:31:45 nice idea, i'm already falling asleep… 22:32:42 For example, I would send 1+1 to a community with 5 active ambassadors/contributors, but a much larger community would justify more. :) 22:33:12 Anyways, we can continue that later. 22:33:17 Anything else? 22:33:24 good night everyone 22:33:31 giannisk: thank you for chairing :) 22:33:37 If there isn't anything else we can end this in less than two minutes. 22:33:40 My pleasure :) 22:34:44 sesivany: We have money to produce more swag as you were saying 22:34:55 before this FY ends 22:35:31 mitzie: eof? 22:35:39 giannisk: yes, sorry 22:35:42 Should I be ending this? 22:35:43 Okay. 22:35:58 Have a great night everyone, see you again in two weeks. :) 22:36:00 #endmeeting