20:00:19 <ardian> #startmeeting EMEA ambassadors 2016-08-17
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20:00:24 <ardian> #meetingname emea ambassadors
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20:00:32 <ardian> #topic Roll Call
20:00:46 <lupinix> .hello lupinix
20:00:47 <ardian> .hello ardian
20:00:47 <zodbot> lupinix: lupinix 'Christian Dersch' <lupinix@mailbox.org>
20:00:50 <zodbot> ardian: ardian 'Ardian Haxha' <ardian@brainpress.org>
20:00:56 <andreasch> .hello andreasch
20:00:57 <zodbot> andreasch: andreasch 'Andreas Christoforou' <aceoscy@gmail.com>
20:01:08 <nmilosev> .fas nmilosev
20:01:09 <bee2502> .hello bee2502
20:01:09 <zodbot> nmilosev: nmilosev 'Nemanja Milosevic' <nmilosevnm@gmail.com>
20:01:12 <zodbot> bee2502: bee2502 'Bhagyashree Padalkar' <bhagyashree.iitg@gmail.com>
20:01:14 <FedoraUser> .hello fedorauser
20:01:15 <zodbot> FedoraUser: fedorauser 'Medic Momcilo' <medicmomcilo@gmail.com>
20:01:38 <jonatoni> .hello jonatoni
20:01:39 <zodbot> jonatoni: jonatoni 'Jona Azizaj' <jonaazizaj@gmail.com>
20:01:45 <ardian> Hello everyone and welcome to another regular meeting for the EMEA region. Let's wait for some minutes for others to show up.
20:02:34 <thunderbirdtr> .fas thunderbirdtr
20:02:36 <zodbot> thunderbirdtr: thunderbirdtr 'Onuralp SEZER' <thunderbirdtr@gmail.com>
20:04:40 <rsc> .hello robert
20:04:41 <zodbot> rsc: robert 'Robert Scheck' <redhat@linuxnetz.de>
20:05:29 <giannisk> .fas giannisk
20:05:30 <zodbot> giannisk: giannisk 'Giannis Konstantinidis' <giannis@konstantinidis.cc>
20:05:34 * giannisk waves at everyone.
20:05:51 <lupinix> good evening everyone
20:05:57 * giannisk is occupied with another meeting at the moment, ping in case you need anything.
20:06:24 <thunderbirdtr> Good evening
20:06:38 <pandaconstantin> Good evening
20:07:44 <ardian> #chair giannisk
20:07:44 <zodbot> Current chairs: ardian giannisk
20:08:54 <ardian> Again welcome everyone, we didn't have our last meeting due to flock.
20:09:19 <ardian> #topic Announcements
20:09:35 <ardian> #info Flock 2016
20:09:41 <ardian> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/flock-update-day-1/
20:09:48 <ardian> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/flock-update-day-2/
20:10:19 <ardian> For people like me who couldn't attend the flock, here are some awesome updates you can check.
20:10:53 * thunderbirdtr remindering youtube videos too !
20:10:54 <ardian> #info Getting involved with Fedora Quality Assurance
20:11:03 <ardian> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/getting-involved-fedora-quality-assurance/
20:11:18 <ardian> The Fedora Quality Assurance (QA) team is the group of Fedora contributors that helps cover testing of the software that makes up Fedora. Through various test cases and different hardware, the team goes through important software that makes up Fedora and helps make sure it works as expected. Despite the importance of the work, getting involved isn’t too difficult.
20:11:46 <ardian> thunderbirdtr, oh, didn't know the videos are online. That's great to hear.
20:12:02 <thunderbirdtr> ardian, we gonna have it when all upload yeap
20:12:03 <ardian> I don't have anything else to announce.
20:13:18 <ardian> Alright, lets go to the next topic
20:13:26 <ardian> #topic Requests
20:14:07 <ardian> #link https://fedorahosted.org/emea-swag-tracking/report/1?sort=created&asc=0&page=1
20:14:24 <ardian> #info Ticket #593 Funding request for BalCCon 2k16
20:14:31 <ardian> #link https://fedorahosted.org/emea-swag-tracking/ticket/593
20:14:36 <elioqoshi> .fas elioqoshi
20:14:37 <zodbot> elioqoshi: elioqoshi 'Elio Qoshi' <ping@elioqoshi.me>
20:14:45 <ardian> Please take a look at the first ticket
20:15:18 <giannisk> Is mitzie around by the way?
20:15:30 <ardian> FedoraUser, Have you checked with jsimon ?
20:15:53 <thunderbirdtr> !
20:15:58 <FedoraUser> ardian, that was addressed to thunderbirdtr
20:16:06 <ardian> giannisk, no, just had a quick chat in Telegram for Foscon
20:16:18 <ardian> alright, thunderbirdtr please
20:17:10 <thunderbirdtr> About paypal problem, I can handle with FedoraUser, he can pay for me and he can get the payment directly, because of paypal problem in my country
20:17:41 <ardian> thunderbirdtr, so what is the amount again ?
20:17:52 <thunderbirdtr> 289.85
20:17:55 <thunderbirdtr> I upload pdf too
20:18:08 <thunderbirdtr> 289.85 $
20:18:41 <ardian> Yes and please write the amount next time in the ticket, since there are people who don't like to download documents.
20:18:54 <thunderbirdtr> I did
20:19:00 <thunderbirdtr> Trip Total: $289.85
20:19:36 <ardian> Zach says it's ok
20:19:36 <mhroncok> .fas churchyard
20:19:37 <zodbot> mhroncok: churchyard 'Miro Hrončok' <mhroncok@redhat.com>
20:19:40 <ardian> so +1 from me
20:19:46 <mhroncok> sorry, connection trouble
20:20:04 <nmilosev> !
20:20:12 <ardian> nmilosev, yes?
20:20:55 <nmilosev> Just to note here that another ambassador is coming to the event. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Sarupbanskota contacted me that his talk got accepted. As far as I understand, the event organizers cover the costs of stay but travel isn't covered.
20:21:22 <nmilosev> I'm not sure what will the travel costs be for him.
20:21:24 <nmilosev> eof
20:22:39 <ardian> But this isn't directly connected with ticket 593 right ?
20:23:06 <nmilosev> It is because the budget is for the same event?
20:23:34 <nmilosev> Not directly connected to thunderbirdtr travel costs.
20:24:05 <ardian> right but the amount request in this ticket is  $289.85 which is for thunderbirdtr as I understand.
20:24:16 <thunderbirdtr> ardian, yes only me
20:24:25 <ardian> okay
20:24:25 <thunderbirdtr> ardian, didn't know other person  ?
20:24:33 <thunderbirdtr> I just learnt.
20:24:40 <nmilosev> Yes, I am unaware of what the cost is for sarupbanskota.
20:24:49 <ardian> Can we please vote on this ticket
20:24:56 <lupinix> +1
20:25:01 <ardian> +1
20:25:10 <jonatoni> +1
20:25:13 <nmilosev> +1
20:25:36 <FedoraUser> +1
20:25:40 <giannisk> ardian: amount can be covered by the regional budget for this quarter, correct?
20:26:02 <ardian> giannisk, yes, had a chat with zach in Telegram a moment ago.
20:26:12 <andreasch> +1
20:26:18 <giannisk> ardian: awesome
20:26:19 <giannisk> +1
20:26:59 <ardian> #agreed Ticket #593
20:27:08 <thunderbirdtr> Thank you
20:27:11 <giannisk> #undo
20:27:12 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: AGREED by ardian at 20:26:59 : Ticket #593
20:27:18 <giannisk> #agreed Ticket #593 Approved
20:27:28 <ardian> giannisk, thank you!
20:27:35 <giannisk> ardian: :)
20:28:02 <ardian> Let's check the next ticket
20:28:19 <ardian> #info Ticket #597 Funding Request for Jona Azizaj - FSFE European Summit
20:28:29 <ardian> #link https://fedorahosted.org/emea-swag-tracking/ticket/597
20:29:16 <ardian> The ticket speaks for it self
20:29:35 <ardian> and mitzie has approved the budget
20:29:36 <nmilosev> That conversion is wrong
20:30:11 <lupinix> yes, dollar must be higher than euro
20:30:13 <nmilosev> 330EUR != $295
20:30:18 <giannisk> nmilosev: you're right
20:30:25 <nmilosev> It's probably the other way around
20:30:25 <thunderbirdtr> +1
20:30:45 <rsc> That's more like 340 USD
20:30:46 <giannisk> 330 EUR ~= 372 USD as of now
20:30:51 <lupinix> 372$
20:30:52 <mhroncok> commented, corrected
20:30:53 <thunderbirdtr> It's complete wrong convers
20:30:55 <giannisk> nmilosev++
20:31:26 <ardian> giannisk, is that ok with the budget ?
20:31:35 <giannisk> ardian: I cannot speak about the budget :)
20:31:43 <giannisk> ardian: mitzie is the right person for that
20:31:50 <ardian> giannisk, alright
20:32:32 <lupinix> well, we do not have much for FrOSCon this year => we can use that money?
20:32:46 <giannisk> lupinix: it doesn't always work like that unfortunately :/
20:32:56 <ardian> I wrote to mitzie on telegram.
20:33:06 <giannisk> lupinix: because the money that were saved from Froscon might already have been allocated elsewhere
20:33:17 <lupinix> ok
20:34:02 <ardian> I think we can move to the next ticket and see if mitzie gets back?
20:34:16 <giannisk> ardian: +1
20:34:17 <lupinix> ack
20:34:37 <ardian> #undo
20:34:37 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.items.Link object at 0x4f0fef90>
20:34:49 * nmilosev what :D
20:34:53 <ardian> #undo
20:34:53 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: INFO by ardian at 20:28:19 : Ticket #597 Funding Request for Jona Azizaj - FSFE European Summit
20:35:07 <ardian> We talk in objects now :P
20:35:17 <ardian> ok next topic
20:35:22 <ardian> #info Ticket #598 Funding request for cwickert at FrOSCon
20:35:30 <ardian> #link https://fedorahosted.org/emea-swag-tracking/ticket/598
20:36:38 <lupinix> some info on that: there will be no booth this year, but some fedora ambassadors, including cwickert and me, will meet there and participate more informal
20:36:47 <ardian> I can't open the link due to my network I think
20:37:30 <elioqoshi> !
20:37:36 <giannisk> cwickert requests 73,5 EUR in total
20:37:36 <ardian> elioqoshi, yes?
20:38:06 <elioqoshi> I will be at FrOSCon sponsored by Mozilla giving a talk. However I will be able to represent also Fedora there
20:38:10 <elioqoshi> eof
20:38:18 <lupinix> elioqoshi++
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20:38:19 <ardian> mitzie said it's ok, we have 900$ for froscon
20:38:19 <giannisk> elioqoshi++
20:38:21 <zodbot> giannisk: Karma for elioqoshi changed to 4 (for the f24 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
20:38:51 <nmilosev> +1
20:38:55 <ardian> do we have any comments, can someone please check ?
20:39:11 <giannisk> ardian: for #598, no further comments
20:39:13 <giannisk> +1
20:39:19 <lupinix> +1
20:39:20 <jonatoni> +1
20:39:20 <ardian> great!
20:39:23 <ardian> +1
20:39:51 <ardian> #agreed Ticket #598 Approved
20:40:12 <nmilosev> back to #597?
20:40:16 <ardian> #info Ticket #599 Funding request for lupinix at FrOSCon
20:40:24 <ardian> #link https://fedorahosted.org/emea-swag-tracking/ticket/599
20:40:44 <ardian> nmilosev, I still haven't got a message from mitzie.
20:41:00 <lupinix> this is the train ticket for me, accommodation is sponsored by FrOSCon as i'm a speaker there
20:41:11 <giannisk> +1
20:41:25 <giannisk> Amount is 60,5 EUR
20:41:28 <lupinix> 60,50 EUR (~68 USD)
20:41:37 <nmilosev> +1
20:41:38 <ardian> +1
20:41:39 <jonatoni> +1
20:41:46 <FedoraUser> +1
20:41:50 <andreasch> +1
20:42:02 <ardian> #agreed Ticket #599 Approved
20:42:07 <lupinix> thank you :)
20:42:41 <ardian> ok I think miztie is checking the other ticket right now.
20:43:03 <pkwesihanson> .fas pkwesihanson
20:43:08 <zodbot> pkwesihanson: edgates 'Elijah Hanson' <pkwesihanson@yahoo.com>
20:44:31 <ardian> ok just got a +1 from mitzie
20:44:39 <ardian> #info Ticket #597 Funding Request for Jona Azizaj - FSFE European Summit
20:46:35 <nmilosev> giannisk, I think ardian disconnected
20:46:46 <giannisk> Alrighty, taking over.
20:46:53 * giannisk is checking for the link.
20:47:14 <giannisk> #link https://fedorahosted.org/emea-swag-tracking/ticket/597
20:47:38 <giannisk> Amount is 330 EUR, which converts to around 372.5 USD
20:47:52 <giannisk> Got a +1 by the regional treasurer.
20:47:55 <giannisk> +1
20:47:56 <lupinix> +1
20:48:00 <nmilosev> +1
20:48:04 <FedoraUser> +1
20:48:17 <thunderbirdtr> +1
20:48:45 <giannisk> At least five individual votes, ticket approved.
20:48:55 <giannisk> #agreed Ticket #597 Approved
20:49:17 <giannisk> Thank you all for helping taking care of these tickets.
20:49:29 <jonatoni> Thanks guys :)
20:50:00 <thunderbirdtr> and chairman is back :)
20:50:00 <ardian> Sorry I got disconnected :\
20:50:19 <giannisk> What I'm a little bit concerned about is that we should probably make the budget overview process less centralized.
20:50:32 <ardian> So mitzie approved the amount.
20:50:32 <giannisk> ardian: no worries, we have just approved #597
20:50:38 <ardian> oh great!
20:50:45 <ardian> giannisk, I agree on this
20:50:52 <giannisk> I mean, what happens if the regional treasurer is unavailable and cannot be present at the meeting?
20:50:59 <giannisk> Will the approval process be stalled?
20:51:10 <nmilosev> That's a good idea, giannisk++
20:51:11 <zodbot> nmilosev: Karma for giannisk changed to 7 (for the f24 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
20:51:11 <thunderbirdtr> giannisk, could be ? and payment can be late ?
20:51:27 <ardian> giannisk, Maybe the treasurer can check the tickets before the meeting, but that might not be always possible ?
20:51:40 <giannisk> thunderbirdtr: In order to effectively approve tickets, we must first make sure the amounts can be covered by the budget.
20:51:43 <ardian> we can have this maybe on the mailing list
20:52:00 <giannisk> ardian: Most of the times this is what happens, but it's not always the case.
20:52:16 <ardian> yes I see the problem here
20:52:19 <b10n1k> .fas b10n1k
20:52:20 <zodbot> b10n1k: b10n1k 'jiannis Bonatakis' <jbonatakis@gmail.com> - jobo 'jiannis bonatakis' <california17@gmail.com>
20:52:21 <thunderbirdtr> giannisk, Btw do we know actual amount atm ? because we lost track some times ?
20:52:46 <giannisk> thunderbirdtr: We don't :) Not the up-to-date amount I mean.
20:52:58 <giannisk> Which is not quite okay - considering that we're a transparent community
20:53:07 * thunderbirdtr feel scary....
20:53:10 <thunderbirdtr> +1
20:53:41 <giannisk> So maybe we can ask the treasurer to make sure an always up-to-date amount is reflected either on the wiki or somewhere else.
20:54:00 <ardian> giannisk, yes that would be a great help.
20:54:02 <thunderbirdtr> giannisk, yes It would be great so we know what do we have to do and people also can check this out  ?
20:54:18 <giannisk> I'm sure our treasurer has been doing a great job with reporting, etc. We just need to have an up-to-date amount available at all times.
20:54:38 <giannisk> So that when he's absent, we can still review tickets on our own.
20:54:43 <ardian> yep!
20:54:50 <ardian> mitzie++
20:54:50 <zodbot> ardian: Karma for mitzie changed to 1 (for the f24 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
20:54:52 <thunderbirdtr> thank you for answers
20:55:09 <giannisk> Is everyone okay with what I suggested?
20:55:16 <giannisk> +1, +0 or -1
20:55:22 <ardian> +1
20:55:25 <giannisk> And if yes, I will contact mitzie accordingly
20:55:28 <pkwesihanson> +1
20:55:31 <lupinix> +1
20:55:32 <FedoraUser> +1
20:55:33 <thunderbirdtr> +1
20:56:07 <b10n1k> +1
20:56:25 <andreasch> +1
20:56:42 <giannisk> #action giannisk to contact mitzie and ask him to make sure that an up-to-date remaining amount from the regional budget is always reflected and available to the community.
20:56:43 <ardian> alright, giannisk will you do an #action for this ?
20:56:49 <giannisk> ardian: :)
20:56:51 <ardian> xD
20:57:15 <ardian> thanks giannisk++
20:57:17 <giannisk> Thank you all!
20:57:51 * thunderbirdtr wondering may I get cookie ! :)
20:57:54 <ardian> Alright, I don't see any other ticket, Lets have our next topic?
20:58:00 <ardian> thunderbirdtr++
20:58:00 <zodbot> ardian: Karma for thunderbirdtr changed to 1 (for the f24 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
20:58:09 <giannisk> thunderbirdtr++
20:58:09 <zodbot> giannisk: Karma for thunderbirdtr changed to 2 (for the f24 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
20:58:11 * thunderbirdtr thank you ! :)
20:58:14 <lupinix> thunderbirdtr++
20:58:14 <zodbot> lupinix: Karma for thunderbirdtr changed to 3 (for the f24 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
20:58:21 <jonatoni> thunderbirdtr++
20:58:21 <zodbot> jonatoni: Karma for thunderbirdtr changed to 4 (for the f24 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
20:58:26 <ardian> #topic Ambassadors Schedule
20:58:31 * giannisk needs to leave in a few minutes.
20:58:35 * ardian gets the link
20:59:36 <ardian> #link https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-25/f-25-ambassadors-tasks.html
20:59:58 <ardian> I don't see anything we can discuss at this moment here.
21:00:29 <ardian> #topic Events
21:00:33 <lupinix> yep
21:00:44 * giannisk needs to leave, take care everyone.
21:00:49 <giannisk> #chair lupinix thunderbirdtr
21:00:49 <zodbot> Current chairs: ardian giannisk lupinix thunderbirdtr
21:00:55 <ardian> Any events taking place in your country, or have you participated in any and would like to report ?
21:01:08 <ardian> giannisk, good night, thanks for being here.
21:01:15 <lupinix> bye giannisk
21:01:15 * giannisk made lupinix and thunderbirdtr in case ardian encounters any issues with his connectivity.
21:01:22 <thunderbirdtr> giannisk, okey
21:01:24 * nmilosev o/ giannisk
21:01:27 <thunderbirdtr> giannisk, good night
21:01:33 <giannisk> Take care, thanks all for being around!
21:01:49 <ardian> Any events ?
21:02:03 <lupinix> FrOSCon on saturday/sunday :)
21:02:22 <ardian> Any Flockies, I'd like to hear some words, couldn't make it this year :\
21:02:24 <thunderbirdtr> ardian, most of us reporting flock reports and for events and waiting for BalCCon.
21:02:39 <thunderbirdtr> sorry. me waiting... BalCCon
21:03:13 <ardian> thunderbirdtr, I will try to make it for next years BalCCon
21:03:14 <thunderbirdtr> ardian, We have video/blogs/picture(ıf you like to some of them I can link them to here so everyone can see it ? )
21:03:24 <thunderbirdtr> ardian, for flock
21:03:27 <ardian> thunderbirdtr, that would be great, please use the #link
21:03:36 <lupinix> thunderbirdtr: yes please :)
21:03:41 <thunderbirdtr> #link https://www.flickr.com/photos/pryc/sets/72157672046948005/
21:04:07 * thunderbirdtr checking for others..
21:04:41 <thunderbirdtr> oh also we used hashtag in social media so you can also see historical list about that
21:05:21 <thunderbirdtr> #flocktofedora
21:05:38 * ardian is so jealous!
21:06:24 <ardian> great pictures
21:06:37 * thunderbirdtr LOVE BLUE BUS !! :)
21:06:38 * lupinix really should attend next year
21:07:47 <ardian> Alright, if there aren't any other reports we can move to the next topic, wish you good luck for FrOSCon and BalCCon!
21:07:52 <thunderbirdtr> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Flock_2016_Talks
21:07:56 <thunderbirdtr> talk slides
21:08:04 <ardian> also jonatoni for the fsfe summit!!
21:08:05 <thunderbirdtr> ardian, thank you !
21:08:27 <lupinix> ardian: thank you!
21:08:56 <jonatoni> ardian thanks :)
21:09:01 <ardian> #topic Action items from previous meeting
21:09:20 <ardian> #link https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2016-07-20/emea_ambassadors.2016-07-20-20.03.html
21:09:49 <ardian> We don't have any actions.
21:10:06 <ardian> #topic Open Floor
21:10:28 <ardian> Alright, anything else you might want to share with us, this is the right moment.
21:10:45 <thunderbirdtr> I wanna say good luck for all other event and thank you for chairman ardian :)
21:10:59 <ardian> We are also planning an event here in Kosovo. I will post to the mailing list.
21:11:00 <lupinix> thunderbirdtr: +1
21:11:11 <ardian> We are looking for speakers
21:11:16 <thunderbirdtr> ardian, date ?
21:11:52 <ardian> #info Software Freedom Kosova 2016
21:11:59 <ardian> #link http://sfk16.flossk.org/call-for-speakers/
21:12:04 <thunderbirdtr> thank you
21:12:05 <ardian> Date: 21-23 October 2016 (Fri-Sun)
21:12:12 <ardian> Deadline of CfS: 15 September 2016
21:12:37 <ardian> We will try to cover as much as we can.
21:12:52 <ardian> I will also write to the mailing list.
21:13:09 <lupinix> nice
21:13:09 <ardian> thunderbirdtr, you are welcome, feel free to ask if you have any questions.
21:13:36 <thunderbirdtr> ardian, sure... I'll :)
21:14:05 <ardian> That's it from me.
21:14:09 <nmilosev> I'm off to bed guys, good night, take care all
21:14:32 * lupinix too
21:14:34 <jonatoni> Definitely i will be there ardian :)
21:14:42 <lupinix> good night everyone!
21:14:43 <ardian> If there isn't anything else to be discussed here, I will close the meeting in 3 min.
21:14:47 <ardian> jonatoni++
21:14:52 <thunderbirdtr> make it 30 sec :)
21:15:02 <FedoraUser> ardian++ thanks for chairing
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21:15:08 <thunderbirdtr> ardian++
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21:15:13 <lupinix> ardian++
21:15:13 <jonatoni> ardian++
21:15:28 <bee2502> ardian++
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21:15:51 <ardian> Thank you all for helping our great community, wishing you a good night, see you in two weeks.
21:17:04 <ardian> #endmeeting