20:00:11 #startmeeting EMEA ambassadors 2016-10-26 20:00:11 Meeting started Wed Oct 26 20:00:11 2016 UTC. The chair is ardian. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 20:00:11 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 20:00:11 The meeting name has been set to 'emea_ambassadors_2016-10-26' 20:00:20 #meetingname emea ambassadors 20:00:20 The meeting name has been set to 'emea_ambassadors' 20:00:27 #topic Roll Call 20:00:35 .hello ardian 20:00:36 ardian: ardian 'Ardian Haxha' 20:00:46 .hello jflory7 20:00:47 jflory7: jflory7 'Justin W. Flory' 20:00:48 .hello jonatoni 20:00:50 jonatoni_: jonatoni 'Jona Azizaj' 20:00:51 .fas nmilosev 20:00:52 nmilosev: nmilosev 'Nemanja Milosevic' 20:00:55 Hello everyone and welcome to another regular meeting for the EMEA region. Let's wait some minutes for others to show up. 20:02:29 .fas thunderbirdtr 20:02:29 thunderbirdtr: thunderbirdtr 'Onuralp SEZER' 20:05:26 #topic Announcements 20:05:33 #info Fedora 25 supplemental wallpapers 20:05:40 #link https://fedoramagazine.org/fedora-25-supplemental-wallpapers/ 20:05:47 16 New wallpapers coming to fedora 25 supplemental wallpapers 20:05:55 #info Raspberry Pi (2 and 3) support in Fedora 25 Beta! 20:06:00 #link https://fedoramagazine.org/raspberry-pi-support-fedora-25-beta/ 20:06:12 Support for the Raspberry Pi in Fedora has been a long time coming and yes, it’s FINALLY here with support landing just in time for Beta! 20:06:24 #FCAIC in the House 20:06:30 #link https://fedoramagazine.org/fcaic-in-the-house/ 20:06:42 Brian (bex) Exelbierd joining as Fedora Community Action and Impact Coordinator 20:06:59 .fas elioqoshi 20:06:59 That's it from me, I don't have anything else to announce. 20:06:59 elioqoshi[m]: elioqoshi 'Elio Qoshi' 20:07:15 ! 20:07:22 jflory7, yes please 20:07:39 #info === "Fedora at LinuxCon Europe 2016" === 20:07:40 .fas prashantjamkhande 20:07:40 PrashantJ: 'prashantjamkhande' Not Found! 20:07:42 #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fedora-linuxcon-europe-2016/ 20:08:07 #info The event report from the team at LinuxCon Europe is up on the Community Blog. Check out sesivany's recount and evaluation of impact at the event and a few other details. 20:08:26 #info === "Fedora-powered computer lab at our university" === 20:08:30 #link https://fedoramagazine.org/fedora-computer-lab-university/ 20:09:06 #info Today, nmilosev's story about the computer lab at his university powered by Fedora went live. Learn more about why they chose Fedora and advice they have for other universities that may consider something similar. 20:09:18 #info === Don't forget release party plans! === 20:09:31 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/ReleaseEvents 20:09:36 #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/tag/release-party/ 20:10:11 .fas giannisk 20:10:12 .fas frantisekz 20:10:12 giannisk: giannisk 'Giannis Konstantinidis' 20:10:12 * giannisk waves. 20:10:14 #info Fedora 25 is currently slated for November 15. Don't forget to keep any planning or organizing in mind for Fedora 25 in coming weeks. Badges included! 20:10:15 frantisekz: frantisekz 'František Zatloukal' 20:10:20 eof 20:10:53 (also, make sure you keep a watch on the Community Blog – lots of good info is popping up on there, especially in the coming week!) 20:11:00 jflory7, great Thanks! 20:11:10 jflory7++ 20:11:22 nmilosev++ great work, really inspiring 20:11:28 +1 ^ 20:11:28 .thank nmilosev 20:11:28 jflory7 thinks nmilosev is awesome and is happy they are helping! (Please don't forget to nmilosev++ also) 20:11:35 .fas rgeri77 20:11:36 RGeri77: rgeri77 'Rákosi Gergely' 20:11:40 nmilosev++ 20:11:44 thanks guys :) 20:12:01 jflory7++ 20:12:05 nmilosev: ++ 20:12:16 nmilosev++ 20:12:18 also ++ to the linuxcon team 20:12:36 sesivany++ mitzie++ bee2502++ 20:13:10 If there's nothing else to announce, we will move to our next topic? 20:13:44 #topic Requests 20:13:59 #link https://fedorahosted.org/emea-swag-tracking/report/1?sort=created&asc=0&page=1 20:14:17 .hello lupinix 20:14:19 lupinix: lupinix 'Christian Dersch' 20:14:27 hi everyone, sorry for being late 20:14:41 ! 20:14:48 thunderbirdtr, yes? 20:14:56 .hello bee2502 20:14:57 bee2502: bee2502 'Bhagyashree Padalkar' 20:15:21 Since november is close , we can also open up ticket for swags, for R. Party* 20:16:35 eof* 20:16:49 yes, please keep in mind to ask for swags at least 3-4 weeks prior the event. 20:17:14 * ardian also considering customs issue, in some countries. Can take more time to arrive. 20:17:20 lupinix, bee2502: o/ 20:17:59 Seems we don't have any tickets to review for tonight. 20:18:08 Ardian afaik we don't have much swag left 20:18:15 jflory7 o/ 20:18:32 I will be bringing some swag to pycon, jonatoni can have it 20:18:42 if anything is left 20:18:44 ardian: what about Bee's ticket? 20:18:55 jonatoni_, good point 20:19:40 Regarding the swag, I am not really sure I can talk about that. Maybe sesivany. 20:19:45 #chair giannisk 20:19:45 Current chairs: ardian giannisk 20:20:32 bee2502, since your topic is approved, I guess best would be to follow in the ticket? 20:20:43 ardian: thanks! 20:20:50 bee2502, sadly couldn't attend "in person" SFK16 due to visa issues 20:21:04 ardian : but do we need to vote again ? I am not sure. 20:21:07 Which we were not sure it could happen 20:21:36 Though she did a great presentation via jitsi, and was open in Twitter for the audience. 20:22:13 bee2502++ 20:22:58 bee2502, I am not sure, since the ticket is already approved, I guess someone from FAmSCo might help us here. 20:23:02 * ardian looks at giannisk xD 20:23:07 What's the problem? 20:23:07 thanks ardian, I am really sorry I couldnt attend sfk as easyjet wouldnt let me board the flight, even after customs allowed it. 20:23:32 bee2502: This might be a case of denied boarding by the way 20:23:41 god that's awful 20:23:43 bee2502: Maybe you wish to investigate that a little further 20:23:56 bee2502, I am sorry we couldn't manage it better, I guess we should not rely on websites information, and call the embassy next time. 20:24:13 giannisk : Do you still think Fedora could reimburse me ? Easyjet wont as it is non-refundable ticket. 20:24:30 bee2502: Of course, I don't see any issues here. 20:25:30 ardian, yes definitely - also, I am really thankful for helping conduct the talk remotely 20:25:36 giannisk : thanks 20:25:45 bee2502: In addition, you -might- be entitled to a compensation from the airline. Check this out: http://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/travel/passenger-rights/air/index_en.htm 20:26:59 Everyone else okay with bee2502's flight expenses being reimbursed? 20:27:04 +1 or -1 20:27:05 giannisk : the link says I should be refunded by easyjet - if easyjet refunds me, I wont claim money from fedora - thanks for the link, I will def show them this 20:27:11 +1 20:27:13 +1 20:27:14 +1 20:27:17 +1 20:27:18 +1 20:27:22 +1 20:28:03 Approved! Lemme find the ticket again :P 20:28:29 giannisk, https://fedorahosted.org/emea-swag-tracking/ticket/604 20:28:32 giannisk: #604 20:28:36 thanks everyone 20:29:27 #agreed Ticket #604 to be processed and reimbursed 20:29:35 thanks for the link 20:29:49 .thank giannisk 20:29:49 ardian thinks giannisk is awesome and is happy they are helping! (Please don't forget to giannisk++ also) 20:30:01 .thank ardian 20:30:01 giannisk thinks ardian is awesome and is happy they are helping! (Please don't forget to ardian++ also) 20:30:04 .thank bee2502 20:30:04 giannisk thinks bee2502 is awesome and is happy they are helping! (Please don't forget to bee2502++ also) 20:30:15 * jflory7 likes that command :) 20:30:15 .thanks giannisk 20:30:17 .thank ber2502 20:30:17 jonatoni_ thinks ber2502 is awesome and is happy they are helping! (Please don't forget to ber2502++ also) 20:30:18 bee2502++ 20:30:20 thunderbirdtr: Karma for bee2502 changed to 13 (for the f24 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 20:30:31 (Time for sp4m :P) 20:30:38 giannisk++ 20:30:38 lupinix: Karma for giannisk changed to 10 (for the f24 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 20:30:44 .thank zodbot 20:30:44 ardian thinks zodbot is awesome and is happy they are helping! (Please don't forget to zodbot++ also) 20:30:48 ardian++ 20:30:48 lolol 20:30:50 lupinix++ ardian++ nmilosev++ thunderbirdtr++ 20:30:50 bee2502: Karma for lupinix changed to 7 (for the f24 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 20:30:50 giannisk: spammy.... :) 20:30:53 bee2502: Karma for thunderbirdtr changed to 7 (for the f24 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 20:31:00 bee2502++ 20:31:00 lupinix: Karma for bee2502 changed to 14 (for the f24 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 20:31:03 haha, .thanks ardian 20:31:09 Cookie storm! :P 20:31:09 .thanks jonatoni 20:31:17 Great:P 20:31:19 .thanks jflory7 :P 20:31:30 Lets move to our next topic 20:32:25 #topic Ambassadors Schedule 20:32:25 Maybe next time we should introduce a new topic - aimed at exchanging cookies 20:32:30 :P 20:32:37 #link https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-25/f-25-ambassadors-tasks.html 20:33:53 As noted in announcements by jflory7, regarding release parties, I don't have anything else to add. Plan plan plan xD 20:34:27 giannisk: heheh 20:34:38 I took a look at the poster design, seems the deadline has changed to next month. 20:35:12 how much swag is left? i handed out rest of my stickers etc. @f24 release party 20:36:09 Kveta knows the answer 😝 20:37:12 lupinix, yup, Kveta could help, or Jiri maybe. 20:37:19 ! 20:37:34 nmilosev, yes 20:38:10 Regarding swag and release parties, I wanted to ask giannisk and sesivany if they got my email about ticket #617? 20:38:30 I made the request around two weeks ago, but haven't heard from kmrstiko or anyone. 20:38:46 Knowing my country customs, timing is really important :( 20:39:08 We can manage an event without swag or media, but it is much cooler if we have some at least 20:39:12 eof 20:39:28 nmilosev: I've seen it, but as I was away during the last week, I didn't have any time to respond :/ 20:39:45 giannisk, it's no problem I was just worried you didn't get it :( 20:39:58 I hope we can get a package through this time 20:40:10 Serbia border not easy... for sure 20:40:20 nmilosev: Is there any deadline? 20:40:36 Not really, apart from the imminent F25 release party date 20:40:52 We are surely gonna have one, but I don't know when 20:41:11 nmilosev: Okay, let me reply to that e-mail also - and ping Kveta. But apart from that, there isn't much I can do from here. 20:41:24 :( 20:41:25 Of course, thank you 20:41:40 nmilosev: np 20:42:28 I've saved some swag that jonatoni_ brought for SFK16, but I guess that can't help 20:42:30 Like jonatoni_ said earlier, I think EMEA is running short on swag. 20:43:43 #action giannisk reach out to kmrstiko, check the status of the remaining EMEA swag. 20:43:56 Thanks giannisk++ 20:44:23 Aaand we have another problem; in order to produce more swag, we need more budget. 20:44:42 Do we have budget to produce more swag? 20:45:03 mitzie knows better - personally I don't think we do 20:45:57 Maybe we should have some statistics on how many events are happening during a fedora release cycle and do better planning 20:46:28 #action giannisk reach out to mitzie, investigate whether we have budget to produce more swag. 20:46:35 ardian: that's why we do FAD ? :) 20:46:40 ! 20:47:00 jflory7, yep 20:47:28 It is worth noting that even if swag is tough to come by, the brand-new and multi-platform Fedora Media Writer tool that will be available with Fedora 25 is a good resource to keep in mind for making USB keys on the fly (or giving someone on another platform a way to make USB keys on their own time). FAmNA is having the same concerns with budget and swag production for the coming fiscal year too 20:47:49 .fas b10n1k 20:47:50 b10n1k_: b10n1k 'jiannis Bonatakis' - jobo 'jiannis bonatakis' 20:47:51 hi 20:48:54 jflory7: I don't think EMEA has had problems with media so far. It is swag we lack. 20:49:12 Ooh, got it 20:49:15 (eof also) 20:49:21 jflory7: We're soon going to phase out producing Fedora media in EMEA anyway. But thanks for the tip! :) 20:49:33 * jflory7 nods 20:50:19 I've seen some companies providing with usb bracelets 20:50:31 I am not sure about the costs of those, but they were blue and looked really good. 20:51:14 giannisk, thanks for taking action on this topic. 20:51:31 ardian: np :) 20:51:50 Let's go to the next topic. 20:51:58 #topic Events 20:52:07 ardian: For the record, we have discussed the idea of producing fedora-labeled usb keys several times in the past. 20:53:22 What we agreed was that it a) costs significantly more to produce usb keys, b) those usb keys are very slow, c) those usb keys fail very frequently 20:54:18 giannisk, yep, well there are still places that takes 2h to get a fedora iso. 20:54:46 ! 20:55:15 bee2502, yes 20:55:53 there was a bit of a discussion regarding producing swag for newcomers interested in contributing at linuxcon 20:56:37 currently, we dont have any swag/guidebooks targeted towards them - bex suggested printing cards with short guidemaps on them 20:57:13 also, webcam covers as swag could be interesting - many orgs had them at linuxcon 20:57:14 eof 20:57:36 bee2502, I actually did this for our last event 20:57:49 bee2502, yes, I have an example I wanted to make for sfk, I guess I have the link somewhere regarding those guidemaps 20:58:29 webcamcovers that's cool, I've seen people hide the webcam with those small fedora stickers that are for the keys xD 20:58:54 ardian: me for example :P 20:58:59 privacy rule by fedora :) ? 20:59:23 ardian : I use linux foundation one :P 20:59:43 nmilosev++ 20:59:59 good idea though 21:00:28 let's get back to the topic 21:00:36 Any recent events you have been part, or are planning something? 21:00:41 ! 21:00:45 ! 21:01:03 tyll, yes, than bee2502 21:02:00 I am planning to attend https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/OpenRheinRuhr_2016 - at least on Saturday, I will probably not be able to make Sunday - I just got the confirmation that we can have a booth a week ago 21:02:52 Is there someone in the area (West Germany) that can also help? Do you know where I could get some booth equipment like banners or table cloths? 21:03:43 Currently bookwar / Aleksandra Fedorova has confirmed that she can do some booth work with me, but she does not speak German 21:03:44 eof 21:04:15 ! 21:04:55 tyll, Maybe take a look at https://fedorahosted.org/emea-swag-tracking/wiki/Inventory 21:05:10 there seems to be some banners in Germany 21:05:38 giannisk, yes 21:07:57 Chaos Communication Congress is around the corner :) 21:08:30 Just wondering if we have any German ambassadors planning to organize some Fedora presence there - e.g. with an assembly (~= booth) 21:08:47 giannisk, sorry I thought you wanted to add something regarding tyll's event. 21:09:12 ardian: ah, no no 21:09:28 Sorry bee2502 21:09:32 ! 21:09:39 giannisk : np 21:09:44 tyll: yes 21:09:44 tyll, yes 21:09:54 bee2502: will get to you right afterwards! 21:10:20 #link https://events.ccc.de/2016/09/01/call-for-participation-33rd-chaos-communication-congress-en/ 21:10:25 ^FYI 21:10:55 AFAIK the inventory is not really up-to-date - it was not a year ago iirc and not much changed - also I am planning to go to the Chaos Communication Congress and started a wiki page as well, but I did not have much time to look into it https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Chaos_Communication_Congress_2016_(33C3) 21:11:58 tyll: Have we registered for an assembly? 21:12:04 Usually once the wiki is created for the 33C3 it will be possible to register assemblies and there is usally space for self-organized sessions that could be used to a Fedora specific workkshop/talk 21:12:31 * giannisk nods. 21:12:58 giannisk, actually I am also interested in having a banner/table cloth for our community here 21:13:14 I think there was an email some months ago, that you have sent. 21:13:48 Though I suggested that we try to produce those locally 21:13:55 IIRC the wiki for the congress will be created in November btw 21:14:01 eof 21:14:37 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/EMEA/Community_Equipment 21:15:33 ardian: Let's get to bee2502 first 21:15:39 Thanks tyll 21:15:42 tyll++ 21:15:42 giannisk: Karma for till changed to 2 (for the f24 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 21:15:51 yep 21:15:58 bee2502, yes please 21:16:08 since we are talking about events.. 21:16:09 PyCon Cz will be this weekend from Oct 28- Oct 30 in Brno. There are many people from Fedora community at Brno and we also have a booth. Four people from Fedora - jonatoni, mhroncok, bkabrda and me - will be speaking. If you are in/around Brno, drop by. 21:16:21 eof 21:17:28 bee2502++ 21:17:28 giannisk: Karma for bee2502 changed to 15 (for the f24 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 21:17:35 * giannisk needs to leave in a bit. 21:17:36 great! 21:17:53 ardian: About the initiative you mentioned... 21:18:00 giannisk, I guess we will have to get on that topic in the mailing list. 21:18:15 ardian: Last year we did end up with some leftovers in our regional budget. 21:18:36 Therefore I proposed to use a portion of that money to produce booth equipment for our communities. 21:18:46 However that was not possible due to time restrictions. 21:18:48 pycon++ 21:18:59 ? 21:19:00 We also needed new designs for the roll-ups and tablecloths. 21:19:39 Oh, never mind, I read it now (there is a booth at PyCon). Wonder if we want a badge for the booth 21:20:39 jflory7 : I think there was a discussion about this in EMEA ambassadors telegram group. 21:20:42 giannisk, I will take action and reply to your email, and see what we can do. 21:21:21 bee2502: Oh, will scroll back. Thanks. 21:21:21 ardian: sure, feel free :) 21:21:58 jflory7 : no ticket was created. it was just decided to create a common PyCon Cz badge instead of one just for 2016. 21:22:00 #action ardian to write to the mailing list regarding the initiative to equip our Communities in EMEA 21:22:48 I'd like to make a short report regarding SFK16 21:22:56 I will write a blog post asap 21:23:28 We had a fedora booth, and different fedora talks that were done by the fedora albania community 21:23:35 thanks a lot for the support 21:23:43 I could try to design the PyCon CZ badge now, I have something to work off of 21:24:30 Pictures and event report will be online soon, and I will send something to jflory7 for community blog. 21:24:42 ardian++ 21:24:51 ardian: now i hope that we will have new Ambassadors in Kosovo :) 21:24:53 * giannisk needs to leave, take care everyone! 21:25:03 * nmilosev o/ giannisk 21:25:04 giannisk: good night* 21:25:17 * giannisk was traveling last week and was unable to carry out his action items, please re-assign them to him. 21:25:27 jflory7: if you can do it would be great 21:25:29 o/ 21:25:31 giannisk, alright :) o/ 21:26:57 We can move to the next topic, if there isn't anything else to be discusses for this topic. 21:27:13 jflory7 : the event is in two days. I am not sure it can be done. 21:27:16 ardian++ 21:27:31 bee2502: I'm playing with the PyCon US 2016 badge as a template 21:28:52 Once, twice... 21:28:57 jflory7: i think is better to have Pycon Cz 2016 badge instead a general one 21:30:10 #topic Action items from previous meetings 21:30:22 #link https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2016-10-12/emea_ambassadors.2016-10-12-20.00.html 21:31:31 jonatoni jflory7 : maybe we discuss in the meeting ? 21:31:35 jonatoni_: The PyCon US badge is actually designed in a way that someone with real Inkscape skills would have to do it... I actually don't think I'd be able to pull this off in the time needed. Never mind. 21:32:08 * ardian notice to everyone, please keep in mind we have a strict rule on the agenda, use ! and ? 21:32:22 sorry ardian 21:32:24 Sorry, eof on badge topic 21:32:39 * ardian thanks a lot. 21:33:01 #action giannisk update the EMEA Trac, add a notice regarding deadline to submit requests in order to make things even more clear. 21:33:14 #action giannisk contact jzb and the Council, investigate whether we can have alternative reimbursement methods for EMEA. 21:34:04 nmilosev, can you update us on your action? 21:34:23 Not sure what you mean ardian 21:34:48 Oh 21:34:53 Regarding the FAD talk we had in our last meeting 21:34:56 Sorry, from the last meeting. 21:35:05 sorry my fault 21:35:13 #info mitzie nmilosev work on an update (w/ a summary of our FAD-related conversations from today's meeting) to be posted to the ambassadors mailing list 21:35:25 Yes, I sent the draft mitzie, and I think he mailed it 21:35:32 *to mitzie 21:35:47 Not sure if he sent it to Ambassadors list or somewhere else though 21:35:53 ! 21:35:54 I don't remember seeing it 21:36:11 eof 21:36:41 nmilosev, yes me too, though I thought it got filtered by my email 21:37:06 ok I guess we can check in our next meeting 21:37:10 thunderbirdtr, yes 21:37:19 ardian: he did.... 21:37:39 ! 21:37:42 ardian: Also as you know they thinking about merge with another event* 21:37:46 eof* 21:38:30 thunderbirdtr, I think it was about fosdem? 21:38:36 ardian: yes 21:38:49 ardian: It's just gone to fosdem as it seems to be* 21:38:59 ardian: but problem is workday mostly* 21:39:00 seems so, thanks for pointing it out. 21:39:06 true 21:39:18 jflory7, yes please 21:40:05 Just a note about giannisk's action item to contact jzb (even though he had to leave already), I know jzb changed positions at Red Hat, so I'm not sure if he still handles things like this. bexelbie is probably the person who could look at it fastest or at least point in the right direction. 21:40:06 eof 21:41:04 (with regards to alternative reimbursement methods) 21:41:45 jflory7, ah I see, can you contact bexelbie ? 21:42:22 It would be great, if we can fix this issue tbh. 21:42:22 If needed I could, although I don't know if I'll have enough information / context to the issue to best represent the problem. 21:42:33 may I ? since I opened in first place* 21:42:35 I can ping Giannis on Telegram to let him know if he was going to contact jzb already 21:43:06 thunderbirdtr, yes please, I guess Giannis doesn't mind:P 21:43:24 ardian: he already knows I'm on that* so that won't be problem 21:43:38 awesome! 21:44:52 #action thunderbirdtr contact bexelbie regarding the alternative reimbursement methods. 21:44:55 thunderbirdtr++ 21:44:57 thanks 21:45:11 ardian: You're welcome 21:45:13 ardian++ 21:45:41 I guess that's it for this topic. 21:45:52 * thunderbirdtr think most people already sleeping :) 21:46:10 #topic Open Floor 21:46:48 If I am not wrong we will be holding our next meeting one hour earlier, right? 21:47:00 ardian: UTC 19:00 ? 21:47:00 The winter-time change thing 21:47:06 * ardian not sure how it's called 21:47:14 winter change happen in 30th 21:47:15 well I guess UTC doesn't change 21:47:16 so 21:47:41 and 30th is Sunday so, It should be fine ? 21:48:10 yep, should be 21:48:39 I wanted to also add something regarding events 21:48:53 We can print something like this http://jvns.ca/debugging-zine.pdf 21:49:13 but it needs to be for fedora related, and should not cost a lot, I mean it's just paper 21:49:35 Something like, how to join the ambassadors, or contribute to fedora. 21:49:38 Network analyze .... nice :) 21:50:11 yep, but something related to fedora :) 21:50:13 ardian: It's will be kinda like howtostartfedora in paper 21:50:26 thunderbirdtr, exactly! 21:50:30 and it should be cheap 21:50:56 more simpler version/(how to download/install/contribute/join with links and simple description) 21:51:15 jflory7, might want to take a look at this, maybe can be also discussed by marketing. 21:52:00 Heh, that would be cool 21:52:01 Another example https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0831/7117/products/null_-2_large.jpg?v=1429054633 21:52:08 https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/YFXKJ3JC 21:52:08 Want to mark it as an #idea for the logs? I do like this idea 21:52:35 jflory7, yes please 21:52:52 Sorry guys for the link 21:53:15 * ardian wishes he knew how to draw :P 21:54:41 * jonatoni_ needs to go 21:54:48 #idea Simple paper drawings for showing how to join fedora: example http://jvns.ca/debugging-zine.pdf https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0831/7117/products/null_-2_large.jpg?v=1429054633 21:55:02 Good night :) 21:55:08 * nmilosev has to run 21:55:14 See ya guys 21:55:15 nmilosev: o/ 21:55:19 bye! :) 21:55:41