20:04:01 <cwickert> #startmeeting EMEA Ambassadors meeting 2012-02-22 20:04:01 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Feb 22 20:04:01 2012 UTC. The chair is cwickert. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 20:04:01 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 20:04:05 <thunderbirdtr> .fas thunderbirdtr 20:04:06 <zodbot> thunderbirdtr: thunderbirdtr 'Onuralp SEZER' <thunderbirdtr@gmail.com> 20:04:08 <cwickert> #meetingname EMEA Ambassadors meeting 2012-02-22 20:04:08 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'emea_ambassadors_meeting_2012-02-22' 20:04:18 <Sesivany> .fas eischmann 20:04:18 <zodbot> Sesivany: eischmann 'Jiri Eischmann' <eischmann@redhat.com> 20:04:19 <thunderbirdtr> cwickert, Hello 20:04:22 <gnokii> .fas gnokii 20:04:23 <zodbot> gnokii: gnokii 'Sirko Kemter' <buergermeister@karl-tux-stadt.de> 20:04:31 <cwickert> #topic Roll Call 20:04:35 <cwickert> .fas cwickert 20:04:36 <zodbot> cwickert: cwickert 'Christoph Wickert' <christoph.wickert@googlemail.com> 20:05:23 <gnokii> .fas gnokii 20:05:26 <zodbot> gnokii: gnokii 'Sirko Kemter' <buergermeister@karl-tux-stadt.de> 20:06:23 <cwickert> anybody else? 20:06:34 <delhage> .fas dehage 20:06:35 <zodbot> delhage: 'dehage' Not Found! 20:06:40 <delhage> meh 20:06:44 <delhage> .fas delhage 20:06:45 <zodbot> delhage: delhage 'Lars Delhage' <delhage@gmail.com> 20:06:47 * cwickert just pinged some people in #fedora-ambassadors. lets give them 3 minutes to show up 20:06:52 <Sesivany> so few? :-( 20:07:04 <gnokii> cwickert: I was already here 20:07:16 <MarkDude> NA here ;) 20:08:27 <thunderbirdtr> cwickert, Actually I want to another meeting and I already have stuff but Tomorrow I will install fedora as thin clients and we will open new computer room for general use I don't it suitable for ambbassadors ? 20:08:53 <jreznik_> .fas jreznik 20:08:54 <zodbot> jreznik_: jreznik 'Jaroslav Reznik' <jreznik@redhat.com> 20:08:59 <cwickert> thunderbirdtr: is this really something we need to do in this meetingß 20:09:01 <cwickert> ? 20:09:31 <thunderbirdtr> cwickert, ok... 20:09:47 <cwickert> thunderbirdtr: we are running out of time and I don't understand your question 20:09:58 <cwickert> I mean, do you want technical advice or what? 20:10:52 * cwickert waits for thunderbirdtr 20:11:04 <thunderbirdtr> cwickert, I ask later.... 20:11:08 <cwickert> ok then 20:11:18 <cwickert> #topic Announcements 20:12:10 <Sesivany> ! 20:12:18 <cwickert> #info Fedora has been registered as a Project for Linux-Tag Berlin. cwickert and twoerner will be event owners 20:12:37 <cwickert> #action cwickert to send out a mail about Linux-Tag to the mailing list 20:12:42 <cwickert> Sesivany: your turn 20:13:01 <Sesivany> I just want to thank everyone for coming to DevConf. I hope it was worth attending. 20:13:13 <Sesivany> eof 20:14:39 <gnokii> ? 20:15:08 <cwickert> #info Red Hat Developer conference took place in Brno. It was a huge success as it was the biggest Linux event in Czech ever by the number of participants 20:15:33 <cwickert> #action attendees of devconf to write their event reports 20:15:49 <cwickert> gnokii: is that an announcement or related to one? 20:16:11 <gnokii> no I just wondered about the long break 20:16:47 <cwickert> ok 20:17:01 * cwickert is still busy with cleaning up after the board meeting 20:18:14 <t2hot> meeting? 20:18:21 <cwickert> t2hot: yes 20:18:27 <cwickert> #topic Events 20:18:44 <cwickert> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events 20:18:44 <t2hot> .fas t2hot 20:18:47 <zodbot> t2hot: twohot 'Onyeibo Oku' <twohotis@gmail.com> 20:19:23 <cwickert> or better https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events#FY12_Q4_.28January_2012_-_March_2012.29 20:19:36 <cwickert> Sesivany: what about your install fest? everything sorted out? 20:20:05 <Sesivany> yes, well have a Fedora on ARM workshop there. 20:20:22 <cwickert> #info if you know of any events, add them to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events 20:20:22 <Sesivany> the theme is hardware this year. 20:20:51 <cwickert> Sesivany: you have a raspberry pi there? 20:21:03 <cwickert> would be nice to have one, but I am not sure if we can make it in time 20:21:30 <Sesivany> cwickert: I dont know, Dan Horak will make it, Ill just assist him. 20:21:36 <cwickert> ok 20:21:46 <cwickert> any other events we need to talk about? 20:21:52 <gnokii> ! 20:21:58 <cwickert> of course there is Chemnitzer Linuxtage 20:22:08 <cwickert> a huge event, but AFAICS everything is prepared 20:22:14 <cwickert> ah, wait, not everything 20:22:16 <cwickert> hotel 20:23:22 <cwickert> #info if you are attending CLT and need a hotel room, add yourself to the table at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Chemnitzer_Linuxtage_2012#Accomodation ASAP. cwickert will take care of the booking then 20:23:30 <cwickert> gnokii: your turn 20:23:51 <tosin> .fas tosin 20:24:00 <gnokii> noone will cover Linuxtage in Graz, cant make it its 2 days before Vienna 20:24:22 <cwickert> is it on the list? 20:24:24 <gnokii> Vienna: cwickert can u help ib*** he had some questions 20:24:28 <gnokii> no its not 20:24:44 <cwickert> then please add it and state that we need an event owner 20:25:07 <gnokii> ok 20:25:26 <cwickert> .fas tosin 20:25:27 <zodbot> cwickert: tosin 'Olutosin Oduwole' <softers.systems@gmail.com> 20:25:44 <cwickert> just for the record, we have a new friend from Africa who joined us 20:26:01 <cwickert> tosin: where are you from? 20:26:25 <Sesivany> tosin: welcome! 20:26:40 <t2hot> cwickert: tosin is not new 20:26:59 <cwickert> ok, my bad then 20:27:01 <tosin> I have been around 20:27:33 <cwickert> gnokii: can you update the table in the wiki? 20:27:33 <tosin> just that I haven't been attending meetings recently 20:27:36 <gnokii> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events 20:27:45 <gnokii> I try to find the failure 20:27:48 <cwickert> I mean, add a new table for the next quarter 20:28:27 <gnokii> cwickert: exactly that I try to do but its completly worng numbered ;) 20:28:37 <cwickert> gnokii: I don't think we have time to play here, but I found some errors in the latam section 20:28:48 <cwickert> gnokii: what exactly? 20:29:09 <gnokii> 3.1 FY12 Q1 (March 2011 - May 2011) 20:29:09 <gnokii> 3.2 FY12 Q2 (June 2011 - September 2011) 20:29:09 <gnokii> 3.3 FY12 Q3 (October 2011 - December 2011) 20:29:09 <gnokii> 3.4 FY12 Q4 (January 2012 - March 2012) 20:29:19 <gnokii> compared to 20:29:45 <gnokii> 4.5 FY12 Q1 (March 2012 - May 2012) 20:29:45 <gnokii> 4.6 FY13 Q2 (June 2012 - August 2012) 20:29:45 <gnokii> 4.7 FY13 Q3 (September 2012 - November 2012) 20:29:45 <gnokii> 4.8 FY13 Q4 (December 2012 - February 2013) 20:30:13 <gnokii> is it FY13 Q1 then? 20:31:09 <cwickert> yes, but the months are wrong, too 20:31:23 <cwickert> is this EMEA? 20:31:25 <ianweller> the FY13 months (4.5-4.8) are correct afaik 20:31:58 <cwickert> ianweller: yes, they are wrong in FX12 20:32:00 <cwickert> FY12 20:32:05 <ianweller> yeh 20:32:23 <gnokii> cwickert: the first one is EMEA the second APAC 20:32:32 <gnokii> I will fix that after the meeting 20:32:39 <cwickert> please do 20:32:53 <cwickert> but generally I think the local communities should fix their stuff 20:33:00 <cwickert> LATAM is completely hosed, too 20:33:28 <cwickert> #action gnokii to fix the 'Events' page and update it with EMEA events 20:33:31 <cwickert> thanks gnokii! 20:34:03 <cwickert> anything more on events? 20:34:13 <cwickert> ok then 20:34:15 * shaiton is here 20:34:18 <gnokii> vienna -> submitting talks 20:34:35 <cwickert> gnokii: you want to make an announcement? 20:34:48 <gnokii> on mailinglist? ok 20:34:50 <cwickert> here in the channel I mean 20:35:06 <gnokii> sure do it 20:35:42 <cwickert> #info Linuxwochen Wien is looking for talks. For details see http://cfp.linuxwochen.at/cfp_wien/ 20:35:50 <cwickert> gnokii: done :) 20:35:59 <gnokii> thx 20:36:37 <cwickert> #info deadline for call for papers for Linuxwochen Wien is 2012-04-01 20:36:43 <cwickert> ok, I think that's all 20:36:51 <cwickert> #topic Discussion on FUDCon Bids for FUDCon EMEA 2012 20:36:58 <cwickert> alright, we have 3 bids 20:37:10 <t2hot> ? 20:37:43 <cwickert> t2hot: still on events? 20:37:55 <cwickert> I mean, other than FUDCon 20:38:09 * t2hot was gonna ask about booth for IDLELO 20:38:21 <cwickert> t2hot: and we were to ask you about this 20:38:42 <cwickert> there have been some mails going back and forth for the last 3 days 20:38:53 <cwickert> I think Arthur waits for a reply 20:39:03 <t2hot> maybe in open session just to keep the minutes clean 20:39:24 <cwickert> I would prefer to sort this out here 20:39:30 <t2hot> ok 20:39:31 <cwickert> because then we have it documented 20:39:52 <cwickert> so, where are we? Jörg wants payment details and need an invoice or something similar 20:40:34 * t2hot is looking for the booking page 20:41:06 <t2hot> I didn't think I had to be directly involved in securing the booth 20:41:19 <cwickert> who is event owner? 20:42:09 <t2hot> I guess I am 20:42:10 <t2hot> cwickert: http://www.idlelo.net/sites/default/files/Idlelo_5_Exhibitor_Registration_Form.pdf 20:43:19 <cwickert> t2hot: ok, is there anything you need help with? 20:44:05 <t2hot> Yeah, I'll need swag. That will be all for now 20:44:53 <cwickert> #action t2hot to register the booth at IDLELO and provide payment details to kital 20:45:04 <cwickert> #action t2hot to file a ticket for swag 20:45:16 <cwickert> ok I think that's all 20:45:24 <cwickert> now for the FUDCon bids 20:45:26 <cwickert> we have 3 20:45:54 <cwickert> #info we have 3 FUDCon bids: Budapest, Zurich and Paris 20:45:58 <cwickert> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:EMEA_2012_Bid_Budapest 20:46:03 <cwickert> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Bid_for_Paris_2012 20:46:08 <cwickert> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Bid_for_Zurich_2012 20:46:19 <cwickert> shaiton: are you here? 20:46:22 <shaiton> yesn 20:46:38 <cwickert> anybody here for Zurich or Budapest? 20:46:53 <cwickert> no, red_alert and zoltan are not 20:47:19 <cwickert> shaiton: was there already disussion going on on fudcon planning list? 20:47:28 <shaiton> cwickert, nope 20:47:44 <shaiton> I wanted to send an email about our bid… 20:48:14 <shaiton> better is probably to discuss on list as not lot of people are here 20:48:48 <cwickert> I guess so 20:48:57 <cwickert> have you been thinking about the date? 20:49:46 <shaiton> cwickert, yes, we want now to have only the first day overlaping 20:50:10 <shaiton> we still need the approval for one big room at our second venue 20:50:18 <shaiton> I'll explain that on the list 20:50:52 <cwickert> note that this is the part that many are concerned about 20:50:59 <cwickert> better explain it well :) 20:51:05 <shaiton> sure ;) 20:51:33 <cwickert> ok 20:51:57 <cwickert> I am not sure we can do much about the FUDCon bids now as no other bidder is present 20:52:05 <shaiton> ? 20:52:07 <cwickert> but we need to sort this out soon 20:52:12 <cwickert> shaiton: shoot 20:52:21 <shaiton> Can we have an approximated date for the result? 20:52:53 <cwickert> shaiton: not from me, I am not to decide 20:53:06 <cwickert> the earlier you write your mails, the sooner we can start :) 20:53:09 <shaiton> sure but you could have an idea 20:53:11 <shaiton> alright 20:53:16 <shaiton> will do tonight 20:53:22 <cwickert> it's the first time I am doing this 20:53:32 <shaiton> ok 20:53:33 <cwickert> I have not been involved in FUDCon planning before 20:53:39 <cwickert> please bear with me 20:54:05 <cwickert> shaiton: but we will discuss this in the FAmSCo meeting tonight, you might want to hang around here 20:54:24 <cwickert> anything more on FUDCon? 20:54:33 <shaiton> I'll try to − thanks 20:54:36 <cwickert> #topic Action items from previous meetings 20:54:53 <cwickert> so the previous meeting was 2011-01-25 20:55:02 <cwickert> because I was busy 2 weeks ago 20:55:28 <cwickert> and to be honest I am a little disappointed that nobody took over the meeting 20:55:29 <cwickert> anyway 20:55:36 <cwickert> lets see what we have at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-01-25/emea_ambassadors_2012-01-25.2012-01-25-20.01.html 20:56:02 * shaiton was absent too 20:56:22 <cwickert> DONE - t2hot to finish https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/IDLELO_5 20:56:42 <cwickert> t2hot: but the second part is still open "provide details about payment for sponsoring in the trac ticket" 20:56:55 <cwickert> #action t2hot to provide details about payment for sponsoring in the trac ticket 20:57:17 <cwickert> NOT DONE cwickert to clean up EMEA events 20:57:23 <cwickert> I am sorry, I am just too busy 20:57:30 <cwickert> but gnokii will do it for me now 20:57:37 <cwickert> thanks my friend :) 20:57:40 <gnokii> :p 20:57:48 <cwickert> DONE cwickert to submit Fedora to Linux-Tag 20:57:58 <cwickert> NOT DONE zoltanh7211 to create a wiki page about LinuxWochen Vienna 20:58:05 <cwickert> #action zoltanh7211 to create a wiki page about LinuxWochen Vienna 20:58:14 <cwickert> gnokii: or is there one already? 20:58:18 <gnokii> no 20:58:39 <cwickert> ok, either you or Zoltan need to do it 20:58:51 <cwickert> DONE gnokii to send out an email about Linux-Tage Graz 20:59:03 <cwickert> ok, overall we managed to get most stuff done 20:59:36 <cwickert> #topic Open Floor 20:59:46 <shaiton> ? 20:59:54 <cwickert> just for the record: I skipped "Schedule" today as there is nothing on it 21:00:00 <cwickert> shaiton: go ahead 21:00:09 <shaiton> still no wish to have one main EMEA meeting wiki page? I am looking at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:EMEA_Ambassadors_2012-02-22 21:00:29 <shaiton> it's quite a pain to rewrite it each time 21:00:36 <shaiton> (and look for the link) 21:00:39 <pingou> +1 21:01:38 <cwickert> shaiton: I have created a templete that is just a few lines 21:01:55 <cwickert> see https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Cwickert/Playground 21:02:04 <rbergeron> Yo. 21:02:11 <shaiton> ok cwickert but the agenda don't move so much. And we still don't have the link easily 21:02:37 <cwickert> shaiton: ok, but what about the meeting minutes? 21:02:42 <cwickert> they are individual for each meeting 21:03:03 <rbergeron> cwickert: you have famsco in here now, yes? 21:03:04 <shaiton> cwickert, yes, but you can have them from a special page 21:03:32 <cwickert> rbergeron: no, EMEA ambassadors 21:03:43 <cwickert> rbergeron: FAmSCo is in an hour 21:03:51 <cwickert> rbergeron: you want us to stop` 21:03:53 <cwickert> ? 21:03:56 <rbergeron> no, i'm insane 21:04:00 <rbergeron> sorry, spliting brain headache 21:04:02 <rbergeron> PROCEED 21:04:05 <shaiton> cwickert, the link is around there: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/ 21:04:14 <cwickert> rbergeron: where is the go/no-go meeting? 21:04:19 <pingou> shaiton: link from the agenda page to meetbot ? 21:04:28 <shaiton> pingou, +1 21:04:42 <cwickert> hold on guys, I still don't understand it 21:04:54 <cwickert> how would you link the meetings? 21:04:59 <cwickert> erm. meeting minutes 21:05:50 <cwickert> just look at my template: there is just a few things that need to be filled out: https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=User:Cwickert/Playground&action=edit 21:05:57 <cwickert> I don't think this is too much work 21:05:59 <shaiton> cwickert, you could give a generic link to the team on the meetbot page, and then you find the last one easily 21:06:12 <cwickert> but if people want a static page, fine with me 21:06:29 <shaiton> the static page is a pain to look for. 21:06:35 * gnokii want bacon 21:06:47 <shaiton> we have to read the reminder to find that out 21:06:53 <cwickert> hold on 21:07:07 <cwickert> I say the static page is a bad any you agree? 21:07:31 <cwickert> how do you want to find something on http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams ? 21:07:37 <cwickert> this is not searchable 21:07:53 <shaiton> cwickert, this link is wrong 21:08:00 <shaiton> take a look at the fr one: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/fedora-fr/ 21:08:09 <shaiton> you only have the interresting ones… 21:08:13 <shaiton> it is sorted… 21:08:37 <cwickert> and how would you search it? 21:08:57 <cwickert> like: "oh, what was the meeting where we discussed media?" 21:09:00 <shaiton> cwickert, it depends of the meeting name 21:09:16 <shaiton> cwickert, how do you find that actually ? 21:09:25 <cwickert> I would search the wiki 21:09:31 <cwickert> it has a search engine 21:09:48 <shaiton> its search engine is so bad that it would be replaced 21:09:49 <shaiton> soon 21:10:22 <cwickert> huh? media wiki is replacing it's search logic? 21:10:38 <shaiton> cwickert, not mediawiki, the fedora project 21:10:40 <gnokii> guys stop that discussion, it brings nothing yet I fear 21:10:47 <shaiton> like with sphynk things 21:10:49 <nirik> Fedora Infrastructure is looking at implementing a search engine for all fedora stuff... using data park search. 21:11:01 <nirik> but it's early yet... we will see how well it works. 21:11:12 <cwickert> shaiton: I was referring to the wiki, not to start.fedoraproject.org 21:11:12 <nirik> so it's not too useful right now. 21:11:19 <shaiton> cwickert, ok let's see that on list, if you want 21:11:37 <cwickert> shaiton: write a propsal to the list and make suggestions please 21:11:42 <shaiton> ok 21:11:44 <cwickert> ok 21:11:47 <cwickert> thanks 21:12:22 <cwickert> anything else for open floor? 21:12:48 * cwickert will close the meeting in 3 minutes 21:13:35 <dramsey> nirik, thank you. ;) 21:16:10 <cwickert> #endmeeting