16:03:58 <smooge> #startmeeting
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16:04:08 <smooge> #title EPEL Meeting
16:04:13 <nirik> looks like qa is almost done, do we want to move to #fedora-meeting?
16:04:13 <smooge> hmmm
16:04:33 <tremble> May as well stay here.
16:05:03 <smooge> am i off an hour?
16:05:10 <tremble> No I think they are
16:05:20 <nirik> yeah, I think they shifted for dst?
16:05:35 <smooge> nirik, I forgot to start the meeting with a title .. how do I change that
16:05:36 <tremble> They started 4pm BST
16:05:49 <smooge> well thats the problem
16:05:53 <smooge> I AM off an hour
16:06:08 <nirik> smooge: for the topic you mean? not sure... you can #namemeeting epel to get the filename...
16:06:11 <smooge> oh wait BDT not UTC
16:06:17 <smooge> #namemeeting epel
16:06:36 <tremble> British Summer Time (Daylight Savings)
16:06:49 <smooge> ok well I didn't send out an agenda, I didn't announce it formally. I suck :)
16:06:59 <smooge> oh Summer Time not Standard Time.
16:07:18 <smooge> well what can one expect we can't agree on which side of the road to drive on
16:07:27 <tremble> We tend to use GMT and BST
16:07:44 <tremble> bizzare I know
16:08:07 <smooge> its like blood pudding and bread pudding on a plate
16:08:25 <smooge> #topic New Meeting Time
16:08:35 <smooge> 1600 UTC on Monday will be our new meeting time
16:08:49 <tremble> Weekly for now?
16:08:53 <smooge> Weekly
16:08:59 <smooge> until no one shows up
16:09:03 * tremble laughs
16:09:15 * nirik is fine with 16/17... although monday mornings are often busy catching up
16:09:19 <tremble> Sometime after 6-GA probably
16:11:19 <smooge> Yeah mondays are catchup and release for me.. but I will try this for a while
16:11:40 <smooge> #topic EL-6
16:12:11 <smooge> ok EL-6 will be out sometime this week. Bits seem to be delayed due to Summit hangovers or some such
16:12:24 <tremble> (Beta2 I presume)
16:12:34 <smooge> Beta2 if I read mirror list correctly
16:13:24 <smooge> We are going to spend this week working on getting EL-6 into the greedy hands of many testers as possible and then next week we will push on getting stuff built for people
16:13:48 * nirik sighs at the modelock.
16:13:49 <smooge> nirik, I think you have to convince ChanServ its supposed to be that way
16:14:02 <smooge> and that might require us to get the CentOS guys to do it
16:14:38 <nirik> I should be able to do it, but it's not being nice about it. ;)
16:15:16 <smooge> I have yet to get ChanServ to do anything for me on the channels unless I am the high muckity muck on it
16:15:25 <smooge> but then again all I know about is hammers and nails
16:15:40 <smooge> ok this meeting is going to be short since we had one on Friday.
16:15:53 <smooge> It is basically meant to carve out that we are 1600 GMT on Mondays.
16:16:26 <smooge> I am ok with it being in channel because the people who really care are in this channel already (or #rhel)
16:16:36 <tremble> We're now at 622 / 2920 packages built as of this "morning" (uk time)
16:16:37 <smooge> and not in #fedora-meeting it would seem
16:16:53 <smooge> tremble, I am going to email spot to see if he can start building today
16:17:22 <tremble> As in mass-building or just his 150 odd packages?
16:18:59 <smooge> his 150 odd packages
16:19:27 <smooge> I think we can work towards having a mailing out to people on say Thursday?
16:19:44 <smooge> That way people can build things that they want or tell us to build them for them.
16:19:46 * tremble nods
16:20:28 <tremble> Do we want a "fast track" EL-6 branching policy or are we going to stick to the standard branching process ?
16:20:55 <smooge> I am not sure what that means
16:21:19 <smooge> tremble, fast track?
16:21:43 <tremble> Rather than having to wait 2 weeks for non-responsive Fedora maintainers...
16:22:24 <nirik> is there some urgency?
16:22:33 <smooge> I don't think there is any urgency at the moment
16:22:49 <smooge> beyond that I would like everything built or DEAD by August 15th
16:23:10 * tremble shrugs it's getting amazingly frustrating chasing RT3's dep chain.
16:23:37 <nirik> we might note that to the list... ask for folks to build more and that we want to have el6 ready by aug 15th
16:24:00 <tremble> Why Aug 15th BTW ?
16:24:05 <smooge> I need to see who is on the list and who has packages in EL.. I wonder if there is an overlap
16:24:19 <smooge> tremble I like to draw lines in the sand.
16:24:24 <tremble> Ok
16:24:45 <smooge> its mainly an arbitrary date 6 weeks from now
16:25:01 <smooge> I figure we should be ready at that point
16:25:50 <tremble> Seems reasonable to me
16:26:29 <smooge> ok anything else on the table ?
16:26:44 * nirik notes we need kbsingh to give us +s to disable the stupid mlock on the channel.
16:27:00 <smooge> I promise to get the EPEL meetings sent out htis week and have an agenda for Monday
16:27:11 <smooge> nirik, thats what I figured :)
16:27:45 <nirik> smooge: if you can find him around sometime, have him +s you and me.
16:28:35 <smooge> ok will do so
16:28:51 <smooge> and here is where we end the meeting and say our goodbyes
16:28:56 <smooge> #endmeeting