16:01:04 <smooge> #startmeeting EPEL
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16:01:12 <smooge> Good morning vietnam!
16:01:18 <tremble> Moin Moin
16:01:39 <smooge> #topic Roll Call
16:01:44 <smooge> Here
16:01:46 <tremble> Here
16:02:14 <smooge> I am going to expect that nirik, Jeff_S , SmootherFrOgZ etc are out for the day
16:02:51 <tremble> notting too I presume
16:03:07 <smooge> #info Today is a US Holiday in the United States. Most people are recovering from deafness from small firework explosions
16:03:22 <smooge> #topic EL-6
16:03:35 <smooge> tremble you have the lead on where this is at. dgilmore has second
16:03:51 <tremble> 937 packages built at the minute
16:04:04 <tremble> The mail seemed to boost build numbers somewhat
16:04:32 <tremble> The main issue that's cropped up is the packages in the optional repo for only 1 or 2 arches.
16:05:11 <tremble> Probably worth sending another nag later this week.
16:05:56 <smooge> Ok sounds good. Put in that if the person is looking for a build-monkey for EL-6 we can find them for them
16:05:58 <tremble> A few people seemed surprised at the lack of bodhi at this point, but have been happy enough once told.
16:06:51 <smooge> I just reinstalled from F-12 to EL-6 so I am going to probably taking a bunch of packages to get my environment to 'usable' again
16:06:53 <dgilmore> tremble: it just goes to prove people just plain ignored the emails that told them what was going on
16:07:07 <tremble> dgilmore: indeed
16:07:14 <dgilmore> we were very clear with what people had to do and how it worked
16:07:23 <dgilmore> at least i thought we were
16:07:30 <tremble> Although next time I will remember to set the list as the reply-to
16:07:51 <tremble> I read it as, leave it long enough and we'll probably do a mass-rebuild
16:08:08 <dgilmore> tremble: thats never been on the agenda
16:08:36 <dgilmore> we dont want things built that wont be maintained
16:08:53 <tremble> dgilmore: In that case I'm probably mis-remembering based off something said at somepoint on IRC
16:08:53 <smooge> it however seems to have been what a lot of people took from it for some reason.
16:09:40 <dgilmore> tremble: some people have asked for it and expect it.  but its not in epel's interests to do a mass rebuild
16:09:48 * tremble nods
16:09:57 <tremble> Makes sense from here.
16:09:59 <dgilmore> tremble: we will rebuild things to fix broken deps when ga is released
16:10:16 <dgilmore> but that is it
16:10:28 <dgilmore> anything else has to be maintainer initiated
16:10:46 <dgilmore> there are things that have been renamed/obsoleted etc that shouldnt be built
16:11:02 <dgilmore> they got branched because maintainers did not pay attention and do as asked
16:11:06 <tremble> qt/python etc
16:11:11 <dgilmore> right
16:11:14 <smooge> I have to get revelation built
16:11:19 <smooge> and gnote
16:11:38 <smooge> interesting thing.. epel updated my gtk-extras after a fresh install
16:11:45 <smooge> so we may have an overlap from soemthing
16:11:54 <tremble> It did ! Oops
16:12:03 <dgilmore> smooge: probably because people built things taht shouldnt have
16:12:14 <dgilmore> because they did not even look at whats in RHEL 6
16:12:27 <tremble> There have been a batch of extra things turn up in beta2 too.
16:12:54 <tremble> I've got EL builds on at least on like that
16:13:18 <dgilmore> right this week im going to get the list of packages in beta2
16:13:33 <dgilmore> and work out what needs blocking and removed from epel
16:13:40 <smooge> yeah
16:14:40 <tremble> Before you do that it's probably worth making a decision re what to do with packages like https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=608594
16:15:18 <tremble> There's a number of perl packages which are only in one or two arches in the optional repo.
16:15:43 <dgilmore> it may be ok to say we will rebuild the rhel version of those packages
16:15:52 <dgilmore> and keep it in sync
16:16:01 <tremble> Seems like the sensible option.
16:16:16 <smooge> sounds good to me
16:16:18 <tremble> Do we bother trying to keep it out of the arch it's in?
16:16:37 <dgilmore> we can  not easily do that
16:16:48 <tremble> I suspected as much
16:16:53 <smooge> I am expecting that when centos-6 comes out it will be in all trees
16:17:34 <dgilmore> if we exlude it from that arch koji will block the rhel supplied package on that arch
16:17:43 <dgilmore> smooge: ?
16:17:58 <dgilmore> centos ships everything in one tree
16:18:57 <smooge> what I meant was if its in x86_64 it will be in i386 also
16:19:11 <smooge> while in RHEL it will only be in x86_64
16:19:18 <dgilmore> right
16:19:35 <dgilmore> but being in centos that way does not help us
16:19:50 <smooge> that is all. so us keeping in sync with the two will keep issues cleaner
16:20:09 <smooge> sorry very convulated thought process to say +1 to keeping in sync
16:20:14 <dgilmore> right
16:20:27 <smooge> ok anything else?
16:21:43 <tremble> Sounds like a resounding no
16:22:35 <smooge> alright thanks for the help dgilmore tremble .
16:22:49 <smooge> Time to call it a day and get back to rebuilding packages for EL-6
16:22:52 <smooge> #endmeeting