18:00:07 <smooge> #startmeeting EPEL
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18:00:12 <smooge> #meetingname EPEL
18:00:12 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'epel'
18:00:26 <smooge> #chair smooge avij bstinson dgilmore nirik
18:00:26 <zodbot> Current chairs: avij bstinson dgilmore nirik smooge
18:00:40 <smooge> #topic Meet and Greets
18:00:46 <avij> present
18:01:14 <smooge> This meeting is to cover things which have been going on in EPEL in the last month or so since the last meeting
18:01:35 <bstinson> hi all
18:01:55 <smooge> hi bstinson and avij
18:02:32 <smooge> ... waits to see if we can get 1-2 more people
18:03:00 <smooge> bstinson and avij were either/both of you at FLOCK?
18:03:09 * bstinson 
18:03:50 <nirik> morning
18:04:12 <smooge> ok we have minimum quorum
18:04:15 <avij> nope, I was rock climbing when FLOCK took place (well, most of the time)
18:04:23 <smooge> cool
18:04:35 <smooge> #topic Anything from FLOCK
18:04:49 <smooge> ok bstinson and nirik was there anything EPEL related at FLOCK?
18:05:43 <nirik> yeah, dgilmore and I and bstinson talked a bit
18:06:07 <nirik> dgilmore was saying we could get koji to use different external repos for different arches. (which I didn't think would work)
18:06:24 <nirik> so, we should be able to add i386 in by using centos i386 for that...
18:06:44 <smooge> cool.
18:06:52 <avij> that would be nice
18:07:03 <bstinson> i know Evolution is keen to get going on some of the ARM bits too
18:07:19 <nirik> yeah, the aarch64?
18:07:21 <smooge> would that be 'like' the secondary koji's or just the main koji?
18:07:38 <nirik> smooge: for i386 we could just add it in the main one...
18:07:48 <nirik> not fully sure how we decided to handle aarch64/ppcle...
18:08:03 <bstinson> yeah, i don't think we closed on that
18:08:36 <bstinson> but if we have the functional tests done for i686, we can replicate where needed
18:08:41 <nirik> there was talk about changing how we do secondary arches in fedora...
18:08:41 <smooge> ok cool. I know more koji's make releng unhappy.. but I want to try and make it so that we aren't breaking main koji if say ppcle is good and then dropped :)
18:08:50 <nirik> just adding them all into one koji...
18:09:24 <smooge> that works also...
18:09:48 <smooge> with these 5 koji's combined, we form kojira
18:10:00 <nirik> but it was just talked about, not sure if it's been formally proposed yet
18:10:49 <smooge> well something to look forward to
18:11:28 <smooge> ok anything else from FLOCK?
18:13:16 <smooge> alright. I only have one other topic at the moment...
18:13:19 * nirik was giving a talk and wasn't at the centos/fedora releng meetup. hope that went well
18:13:51 <bstinson> yeah, that was a pretty good discussion on container build tooling
18:14:25 <nirik> yeah, sounds like atomic-reactor is the short term way forward
18:17:03 <smooge> #topic needing updated/rebuilt packages in 6.7 etc
18:17:33 <smooge> So after EL6.7 came out there seems to have been a couple of updates in libraries and such which needed packages rebuilt
18:17:54 <smooge> currently we are finding them via user reports and then having the maintainers rebuild one by one.
18:17:56 <nirik> ImageMagick was the big one I think.
18:18:01 <smooge> is there a way we could automate this
18:18:05 <nirik> but most of them are already rebuilt by now.
18:18:54 <avij> I filed a number of bugs for the remaining ImageMagick problems. many of them have been rebuilt now and in epel-testing.
18:19:50 <avij> I guess I could have saved a bit of time if I tested against RHEL 6.7, but I only have access to CentOS
18:20:50 <smooge> ok so the current method is ok for the committee? [I just want to know if I am seeing a real problem or the current methods are ok.]
18:21:12 <nirik> it would be nice if we were mode coordinated on it.
18:21:23 <nirik> but not sure we could do much more for this time
18:21:54 <smooge> so I know we do some sort of bump and rebuild in Fedora at certain times. Is that possible with EPEL?
18:22:28 <avij> some sort of an advance notification would be nice for the packagers ("your package will break when RHEL x.x gets released")
18:23:07 <smooge> yeah.. I don't know if we have any way of knowing that beyond testing with the beta
18:23:33 <avij> right, I understand there's not much we can do regarding that
18:24:57 <smooge> yeah :/
18:24:59 <avij> on the other hand, although I'm not a packager myself, I got the impression that all it takes to fix the issue for these packages is a rebuild. this could probably be done by a provenpackager if needed.
18:25:18 <avij> so not necessarily by the official package maintainer
18:26:13 <smooge> I think that would work
18:26:50 <smooge> ok I think nirik got paged on something so we can end this now
18:26:55 <smooge> #topic open floor
18:27:05 <smooge> Anyone have anything for the open floor?
18:27:12 <nirik> yeah, provenpackager could fix it...
18:27:15 <bstinson> the mass-rebuild tools might be adaptable for that purpose
18:28:11 <smooge> that was what I was wondering.. but I think dgilmore would need to help answer that.
18:28:23 <avij> as far as I can see, the following packages still need to be rebuilt for the new ImageMagick: drawtiming, perl-Image-SubImageFind, psiconv, spectrum
18:29:33 <avij> I will be travelling (in Brussels) next week at this time
18:29:36 <nirik> well, rpmdev-bumpspec and a build/update. ;)
18:29:46 <nirik> I can try fixing those this weekend.
18:31:04 <smooge> ok avij will you be back in 2 weeks?
18:31:47 <avij> yes; my trip starts tomorrow morning and ends on 31.8.
18:32:14 <smooge> ok so next meeting in 2 weeks
18:32:22 <bstinson> +1
18:32:41 <smooge> my cell phone is going crazy.. am going to clal this meeting over
18:32:46 <smooge> #endmeeting