19:00:19 <smooge> #startmeeting EPEL (2016-03-16)
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19:00:19 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'epel_(2016-03-16)'
19:00:29 <smooge> #meetingname EPEL
19:00:29 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'epel'
19:00:29 <smooge> #chair smooge nirik dgilmore Evolution bstinson avij
19:00:29 <zodbot> Current chairs: Evolution avij bstinson dgilmore nirik smooge
19:00:29 <smooge> #topic aloha
19:00:44 <nirik> morning
19:01:10 <smooge> hello nirik
19:01:12 <bstinson> hi all
19:01:52 <smooge> if we can get Evolution and avij, we can do the placement of an officer
19:02:19 <smooge> or just one of them
19:02:45 <smooge> topics for this week will be based off of last weeks missed meeting with the first item being filling in dgilmore's seat
19:03:01 * dgilmore suggests smooge
19:03:50 <smooge> I think I will need to run this short because EMEA ambassadors starts in 30 minutes?
19:03:55 <bstinson> seconded
19:04:04 <bstinson> to dgilmore's suggestoin
19:04:13 <bstinson> argh spelling
19:04:28 <Evolution> it's overrated.
19:04:48 <smooge> ok Evolution you are here.
19:05:04 <smooge> #topic Fill in EPSCO committee seat
19:05:39 <smooge> Dennis Gilmore resigned his post last week. I would like to thank Dennis for his work here and would like to open the floor for any people wanting to take his seat
19:06:10 <smooge> we have an open nomination of smooge for the position.
19:06:14 <smooge> are there any others?
19:06:34 <Evolution> so it's hotel california for you smooge :-P
19:06:35 <nirik> you cannot escape smooge. ;) +1 to you.
19:07:02 <smooge> ....
19:07:10 <Evolution> the alternative would be to post the vacancy on the list and take nominees/votes next week
19:07:27 <smooge> I posted it to the list and there were no nominations
19:07:28 <Evolution> that said... +1 to smooge
19:07:40 <smooge> I can do so again with an explicit deadline
19:07:44 <tibbs|w> So smooge, you do the meetings and such but you aren't actually on EPSCo?
19:08:09 <smooge> I was on EPSCo but resigned due to needing some time off and to open up a slot for a non-RH employee
19:08:17 <Evolution> he's espco emeritus
19:08:20 <tibbs|w> Huh, I had no idea.
19:08:45 <bstinson> looks like soon to be unretired :) +1 to smooge from me
19:09:17 <smooge> tibbs|w, would you like a chance on the board?
19:09:25 <tibbs|w> Oh, no, not me.
19:09:46 <smooge> ok then I am going with 4 +1 from current members no - and no draft choices
19:10:07 <smooge> #agreed smooge will take Dennis Gilmore's seat on the EPEL Steering Committee
19:10:32 <smooge> #topic Outstanding issues
19:10:43 <smooge> #info Django14 removed from EL6.
19:10:44 <smooge> #info Orphans and removals
19:10:44 <smooge> #info EL-5/EL-6 build root changes via tibbs
19:10:44 <smooge> #info ???
19:11:12 <smooge> #info owncloud needs input on ways to deal with its upstreams methodologies
19:11:51 <smooge> On item 1 Django14 was taken over by me. We are waiting for a successful push to get it back
19:12:28 <smooge> On item 2 I think we need to look over the list of retirements and other items and see what needs to be done for a cleanup
19:12:43 <smooge> On item 3, tibbs would you like to speak about it?
19:12:51 <tibbs|w> Not much to add, really.
19:13:08 <nirik> (on one: https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/epel/6/x86_64/Django14-1.4.21-1.el6.noarch.rpm) it's back
19:13:15 <tibbs|w> I've been out of town and wanted to wait until I got back to ask releng to add epel-rpm-macros-5 to the buildroot.
19:13:48 <smooge> ok cool. are you back yet
19:14:02 <smooge> nirik, thanks. I didn't see that when I looked this morning
19:14:11 <tibbs|w> I'll go ahead and do that this week, and then I can work on other things.
19:14:15 <tibbs|w> Got back yesterday.
19:15:03 <smooge> well glad you made it back safely.
19:15:27 <tibbs|w> Yeah, they closed I10 due to the Sabine river flooding not long after I got back.
19:15:37 <smooge> Any other outstanding problems or issues people want to bring up?
19:15:40 <smooge> tibbs, ouch
19:15:58 <smooge> ok next topic
19:16:01 <smooge> #topic Upcoming opportunities
19:16:01 <smooge> #info Recharter EPEL
19:16:02 <smooge> #info Removing EL-5 in 1 year
19:16:02 <smooge> #info Discuss proposed plans on mailing list
19:16:02 <smooge> #info CentOS devels would like permission to build a snapshot of EPEL for arm32 rasp-pi
19:16:03 <smooge> #info CentOS devels would like permission to build a snapshot of EPEL for arm32 i386
19:16:54 <smooge> I am looking at the charters that the new module group in Fedora and the one that server is doing and will base an EPEL charter off those soon (end of month hopefully)
19:17:25 <smooge> On 2, this is a reminder that EL-5 will be EOL and archived from EPEL in ~12 months
19:17:38 <tibbs|w> I couldn't be happier.
19:18:02 <bstinson> smooge: i know i keep promising help on the charter. i really do mean it, but i've been a little caught up with work and travel in the past days :)
19:18:04 <Evolution> yup. that will be a happy day.
19:18:18 <Evolution> bstinson: it's not like we dragged you halfway around the world.
19:18:37 <smooge> On 3, there have been some discussions on the list about some of the proposals. I would like to get y'all to look at them and respond in the next week or so as the charter would be influenced by them
19:19:44 <smooge> One 4, Fabian Arrotin has been doing a side snapshot build of EPEL in their plague system for centos-arm32.
19:19:53 <smooge> I am hoping to get a box to test with it soon.
19:20:21 <smooge> On 5, I expect the plague snapshot would be the way to do i386 also.
19:20:22 <bstinson> smooge: i'm going to try to get something going on the el7-i686 side
19:20:23 <nirik> I don't know that they need our permission to do that. ;)
19:20:44 <smooge> nirik, they wanted to make sure this was a friendly rebuild and not a "takeover"
19:20:46 <nirik> everything should be open, go to town. ;) Of course syncing it and such could be difficult.
19:20:48 <Evolution> nirik: it's not permission exactly, but we do want to go about this in somewhat the right way
19:21:24 <bstinson> goal is to file bugs for architecture related issues
19:21:33 <smooge> my English isn't as clear as it could be there... someday when I find out what my native language is, it will be much easier to communicate
19:22:16 * nirik nods. sounds fine to me... especially for a test run to fix stuff up.
19:22:48 <smooge> well this kind of brings up an issue that needs to be dealt with on the list. Getting EPEL/arm and EPEL/i386 into koji so that bugs can mean something is going to take some work and architect
19:24:17 <smooge> thank you nirik for responding ot the various proposals. If others have done so also, thank you
19:24:40 <smooge> #info RHEL-6.8 beta is open to RH customers
19:24:49 <nirik> I think we can do it like the ppc64le bringup... just with a slightly more complex twist of the upstream being centos
19:25:34 <smooge> I am hoping so.. however I am working on counterplans if it doesn't.
19:25:42 <smooge> we build EPEL on plague before.. we can do it again :)
19:26:15 <smooge> on the RHEL-6.8, this is a good time for people to look at packages and come up with either retirement plans or major upgrade plans
19:26:54 <smooge> the usual timeline after beta is I think 3 months.. so that would give us some time to put in a flag-pole-day
19:27:05 <smooge> does that sound reasonable?
19:27:52 <bstinson> i like it
19:28:25 <Evolution> works for me.
19:28:47 <nirik> sure, although at this point I hope the rhel6 changes aren't major...
19:28:50 <nirik> but you never knwo
19:29:15 <Evolution> well, 6.6 to 6.7 had a bump for imagemagick iirc.
19:29:33 <Evolution> that caused an issue for php iirc. for folks with access, this would be a good time to test.
19:29:45 <smooge> nirik, with the amount of rebasing issues that they are doing in everything.. I don't know
19:30:06 <smooge> someone mentioned that the desktop was getting a refresh of some sort.
19:30:21 <smooge> but until I get a vm set up and look.. no idea
19:31:04 <smooge> alright.. I am worried I am going over into the EMEA meeting.
19:31:27 <smooge> do we want to keep the EPEL meeting at 1900 UTC or move it to 1800 UTC?
19:31:47 * nirik doesn't care
19:32:07 <Evolution> I'm fine either way. it's early enough for me in either case.
19:32:17 <smooge> [looks to see that meeting starts in 20 minutes so we are ok]
19:32:36 <smooge> OK I think we can do 1900 UTC and keep it at that. Take that Daylight Savings Time
19:33:01 <smooge> #topic New Business
19:33:16 <smooge> Ok is there any new business/open floor items?
19:34:20 <bstinson> nothing from me
19:34:31 <Evolution> none here
19:35:08 <smooge> ok closing in 30 seconds
19:35:40 <smooge> I want to thank everyone for coming and we will do the next set of items on the list
19:35:44 <smooge> #endmeeting