18:00:09 <smooge> #startmeeting EPEL
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18:00:09 <smooge> #meetingname EPEL
18:00:09 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'epel'
18:00:09 <smooge> #chair smooge nirik Evolution bstinson avij
18:00:09 <zodbot> Current chairs: Evolution avij bstinson nirik smooge
18:00:09 <smooge> #topic aloha
18:00:31 <nirik> morning
18:00:38 <smooge> hello
18:00:52 <smooge> not sure if we will have quorum today
18:01:11 <avij> hi, arrived back home just a few seconds ago
18:02:19 <smooge> hi avij
18:02:20 <Evolution> I don't think bstinson will make this. he should be half-way through a jenkins cert test iirc
18:02:28 * bstinson waves from between sessions
18:02:36 <Evolution> oh, he's alive!
18:02:41 <smooge> good luck on getting tested
18:02:54 <smooge> I hear Jenkins can be a deadly disease
18:02:57 * bstinson gets jenkins'd real hard at 4PST
18:03:28 <smooge> #topic Outstanding issues
18:03:37 <smooge> OK so we have a couple of items from the list:
18:03:47 <smooge> python3 guidelines.
18:04:14 <smooge> nodejs update
18:05:49 <smooge> orphaned packages
18:05:55 <smooge> that looks like it
18:06:05 <smooge> #topic Python3 Guidelines
18:06:35 <smooge> This has been mostly discussed on the list. Are there any issues we want to bring up here or do a formal vote on things?
18:06:54 <nirik> so, I thought we approved the draft a long time ago... we should move it to a better place on the wiki
18:07:23 <bstinson> +1
18:07:46 * nirik looks for it
18:08:06 <Evolution> smooge: I don't think there's much to discuss, really. I'm irritated that some things require multiple packages rather than a simple branch, but meh. koji and srpm fun.
18:08:14 <nirik> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Bkabrda/EPEL7_Python3
18:08:14 <Evolution> I think nirik's right
18:08:36 <nirik> yeah, making new python3 packages is I fear the only way that will work
18:09:01 <smooge> I agree we approved it. I want to make sure we don't have any lingering confusion over packages needing to be called python3-xyz-1.2.0-1.srpm versus using the python-xyz-1.2.0-0.1.foo
18:09:28 <smooge> which it sounds like we do not
18:09:39 <nirik> we cant do python-foo if thats in rhel (at least without messing up anything that buildrequires it)
18:10:31 <smooge> #info python packages that are in RHEL need to be forked/built with the name python3- versus using a 0. version number
18:10:45 <smooge> anything else?
18:10:50 <Evolution> it might help if we provided a workflow to help keep it semi-related to the upstream fedora packages.
18:11:05 <Evolution> separate repo with an 'upstream' remote or whatever.
18:11:42 <Evolution> naming is fine, but a workflow on the wiki for python3 versions of rhel packages might be a nice-to-have.
18:11:45 <nirik> yeah, that would be good to add if someone can work it all out
18:12:42 <smooge> ok added to me roundtoit
18:13:44 <smooge> next up
18:13:51 <smooge> #topic NodeJS Updates
18:14:05 <nirik> this is in progress...
18:14:19 <smooge> The items that sgallagh had put together for the plan looked like the best out of a horrible mess
18:14:28 <smooge> beyond punting to scl
18:14:34 <nirik> yeah, I think he got a working openssl patch...
18:14:37 <sgallagh> /me is here
18:15:10 <avij> NodeJS is currently being discussed in #centos-devel in the opstools meeting
18:15:17 <smooge> hi sgallagh I am only bringing this up as it was discussed on the lists in the last 2 weeks and I wanted to make sure we were all ok with how it is going
18:15:27 <sgallagh> Makes perfect sense
18:15:40 <sgallagh> Node.js 6.5.0 was pushed to the epel-testing repo this morning
18:15:46 <sgallagh> Probably filtering out to mirrors throughout the day
18:15:58 <nirik> \o/
18:16:26 <avij> I'm happy it's going forward, thanks
18:16:40 <smooge> cool
18:16:46 <smooge> thanks for all the hard work
18:16:49 <Evolution> sgallagh: I don't suppose you'd have time for a brief blog post or something that we could point to beyond the mailing list?
18:17:08 <Evolution> this is a big enough thing it probably needs more eyeballs.
18:17:15 <smooge> if not I can try to do a blog post pointing to this tomorrow
18:17:30 <smooge> I need to do a weekly PSA of something
18:17:43 <sgallagh> Evolution: I agree, but I'm a little swamped today
18:17:43 <Evolution> is there an 'epel' section for the fedora mag?
18:18:00 <smooge> not that I know of
18:18:02 <Evolution> sgallagh: understood. it was a longshot, but thought I'd ask.
18:18:20 <smooge> sgallagh, I will try to put something together tomorrow and pass it by you for review
18:18:48 <sgallagh> smooge: That would be much appreciated. Thanks
18:18:58 <smooge> ok on my todo list
18:19:08 <smooge> were there any questions here?
18:19:08 <Evolution> I like this meeting. so far we're just agreeing to make smooge do everything
18:19:27 <smooge> #topic Orphaned Packages
18:19:39 <smooge> I think til went through and did a bunch a couple of days ago
18:21:47 <nirik> yep
18:23:14 <smooge> so the next email should be a lot shorter. However it was pretty big
18:24:00 <smooge> other than a thank you to til for all that work.. anything anyone want to add?
18:24:32 <smooge> #topic EPEL-5
18:28:11 <avij> 31st March 2017 seems to be the date. getting closer.
18:29:08 <Evolution> I'm gonna celebrate
18:30:44 <nirik> yeah, lets throw a party. ;)
18:31:18 <avij> I've heard there's still a dangerously large number of CentOS 5 installations out there.
18:32:18 <nirik> luckily epel %s for epel5 are going down...
18:32:21 <nirik> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mirrormanager/statistics/2016-09-14/repositories
18:33:08 <avij> oh, that doesn't look too bad
18:34:19 <smooge> sorry I lost my intertubes
18:34:25 <smooge> Alright I think that is all for this meeting
18:34:31 <smooge> #endmeeting