18:00:28 <smooge> #startmeeting EPEL
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18:00:28 <smooge> #meetingname EPEL
18:00:28 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'epel'
18:00:28 <smooge> #chair smooge nirik Evolution bstinson avij
18:00:28 <zodbot> Current chairs: Evolution avij bstinson nirik smooge
18:00:28 <smooge> #topic aloha
18:00:35 <smooge> Hello everyone
18:00:37 <nirik> morning
18:01:25 <smooge> hmmm this might be a short meeting today
18:01:34 <smooge> a very short meeting
18:02:38 <avij> hello
18:02:40 <Evolution> o/
18:02:44 <smooge> hi avij Evolution
18:02:51 <smooge> I am guessing bstinson is out today
18:03:10 <smooge> Ok I have a couple of items for the meeting today
18:03:13 <smooge> #topic old business
18:03:14 <smooge> #info i386/arm for EPEL request
18:03:38 <smooge> There was a message on the list about multilib which brought up the where does i386 come from and how does koji know about it
18:04:29 <Evolution> since I'm buried in email... when was that sent so I can review quick?
18:04:52 <smooge> yesterday to epel-devel
18:04:55 * bstinson is mostly here
18:05:02 <smooge> [EPEL-devel] Multilibs support for epel - packages whitelist
18:05:05 <Evolution> ah, there it is
18:05:37 <smooge> there was also a discussion in #centos-devel on Monday? but I was not able to parse it due to other things
18:06:22 * nirik got a call, sorry, reading up
18:07:37 <nirik> oh yeah... thats a tricky one.
18:07:42 <Evolution> that looks ugly
18:07:48 <smooge> so I think we are kind of stuck here because we don't know exactly what could be done to make it work in Fedora koji or have the processes involved due to other things
18:07:49 <Evolution> cross-compiling for i686
18:07:54 <nirik> we need some kind of i686 first I think...
18:08:07 <nirik> and for the record I hate multilib. ;)
18:08:39 <avij> the #centos-devel discussion was about i686 CentOS altarch (which is up-to-date). CentOS built some i686 EPEL packages at some point ( https://buildlogs.centos.org/c7-epel/ ) but those are not up-to-date any more.
18:10:01 <avij> kwizart (also on this channel) sent that email
18:10:14 <smooge> avij, thanks. I thought these were connected but they are only in that we are talking about multiple architectures
18:11:24 <smooge> I also agree on the multilib part
18:11:55 * smooge goes to put Fedora 27 change request No More Multilib
18:12:46 <nirik> I keep thinking about that, but people keep wanting to run their crazy 32bit apps on 64bit installs. ;(
18:13:06 <nirik> anyhow, I don't think cross compiling will work, so I can't think of a solution to this currently
18:14:02 <smooge> that was my take on it also.. but I didn't know the reasons well enough to phrase it in a way that came up with a lot of corrections
18:14:14 <smooge> ack brb
18:16:13 <smooge> ok bakc
18:16:58 <smooge> nirik, can you help me write up a reply on that? or can you do so
18:17:16 <nirik> I can try...
18:18:07 <smooge> I will write a "reply" and pass it by you for corrections.
18:18:37 <smooge> ok any other old business for people to bring up?
18:19:10 <smooge> Ok next up then. new business
18:19:21 <smooge> #topic new business
18:19:21 <smooge> #info EPEL state of the union at FLOCK
18:19:21 <smooge> #info EPEL activity session at FLOCK
18:19:52 <smooge> so I put into put a activity session and state of the union at the Fedora Flock in late August/September
18:20:15 <smooge> The state of the union would be a 30 minute this is where things are and what we want to do in the future
18:20:38 <smooge> The activity session would be working tackling the issues we have not been able to do so in the past
18:21:39 <avij> sounds good, excellent
18:22:00 <nirik> smooge++
18:22:07 <smooge> I think that was about it there.
18:22:40 <smooge> I would like to make next meeting to iron out exactly what they will be so we can make sure the people are there
18:24:40 <smooge> Evolution, so I was reading in LWN that you gave some talks in Japan and EPEL showed up there
18:25:10 <smooge> was there anything we need to work on deal with?
18:25:26 <Evolution> oh, did that article go live?
18:25:39 <smooge> well for people who pay for the subscription
18:26:09 <Evolution> I was mostly plugging epel as a place to go get various things to make the distro more appealing
18:26:37 <Evolution> also "it's available for aarch64 now, literally 10's of people are using it and YOU SHOULD TOO"
18:26:51 <Evolution> smooge: I'd very much appreciate a link to the article
18:27:02 <smooge> https://lwn.net/Articles/726441/
18:27:28 * nirik should really bring up these pine64's he has someday... oh well, when I have time.
18:27:29 <smooge> you got a picture and everything
18:27:46 <misc> nirik: so when arm256 will be deprecated ?
18:28:48 <nirik> hum?
18:29:22 <misc> (when you have time, ie, in 50 years in the future)
18:29:24 <smooge> well thank you Evolution for the comment
18:29:29 <misc> (that was supposed ot be a joke)
18:30:19 <smooge> #info Evolution gave a talk which mentioned EPEL in Japan. Like Blue Oyster Cult we are big in Japan
18:30:30 <smooge> ok and that was my joke
18:30:37 <smooge> #topic Open Floor
18:30:43 <nirik> misc: ah right. ;)
18:31:32 <smooge> So next week? Are people travelling or will be away?
18:31:52 <Evolution> nope. I'll be about
18:31:58 * nirik should be around
18:32:25 <avij> I should be around
18:32:25 <smooge> I would like to work on some of the wiki docs in the meeting. I will post the rando-doc for people to review and we can just go over any changes needed to it there.
18:32:27 <smooge> cool
18:32:36 <smooge> but finish it up in the meeting
18:34:02 <nirik> sounds good
18:34:09 <smooge> alright then
18:34:15 <smooge> will post that later today
18:34:20 <smooge> I think we are done for the day
18:34:29 <smooge> thank you all for coming and I hope you have a pleasant week
18:34:32 <smooge> #endmeeting