18:01:03 <smooge> #startmeeting EPEL (2017-08-09)
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18:01:03 <smooge> #meetingname EPEL
18:01:03 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'epel'
18:01:03 <smooge> #topic aloha
18:01:03 <smooge> #chair avij bstinson Evolution nirik smooge
18:01:03 <zodbot> Current chairs: Evolution avij bstinson nirik smooge
18:01:32 <smooge> Hi. I am not sure if we are going ot have quorum again this week. avij is on travel and I have not heard from Evolution
18:02:02 <smooge> If we get bstinson we will have minimum and can run through the motion
18:02:06 <smooge> and nirik
18:02:07 <nirik> morning
18:02:13 <smooge> morning.
18:02:17 <Evolution> morning
18:02:23 <smooge> oh my its an Evolution
18:02:28 <bstinson> hi all
18:02:29 <Evolution> I finally made it
18:02:31 <smooge> yay
18:03:16 <smooge> hi bstinson and we have quorum
18:03:26 <smooge> #topic Announcements
18:03:26 <smooge> #info RHEL-7.4 released
18:03:26 <smooge> #info FLOCK 2017 in 3 weeks
18:03:33 <smooge> well Flock is in 2 weeks
18:03:43 <smooge> I didn't update that line
18:03:55 <smooge> Currently the EPEL meetings are on Wednesday.
18:04:14 <smooge> I have worked out an outline for the state of the union which I will mail out later today
18:04:24 <smooge> and get items people want to go over
18:04:41 <smooge> and then I will put in the Activity day items for the work afterwords
18:05:16 <smooge> one of the meetings is going to be against spot's "why i drink" so I expect our attendence might be light then
18:05:24 <smooge> or drunk
18:06:02 <nirik> :)
18:06:07 <smooge> Evolution, bstinson on the EL-7.4.. I saw there were a bunch of package problems. Anything we in EPEL can help with?
18:07:10 <bstinson> has anyone looked through the packagesets yet?
18:07:17 * spot makes a note to bring drinks to that talk
18:07:40 <smooge> bstinson, I am not sure what you mean? As in duplicates?
18:07:44 <Evolution> smooge: from an epel side, I don't think so. There are some build deps that clearly come from epel, but aren't always the current version
18:07:51 <Evolution> so the repo itself wouldn't necessarily help
18:08:17 <bstinson> smooge: yeah. additions, subtractions to base that would affect EPEL
18:08:19 <smooge> but once the proper versions get pulled into CentOS we will need to look at 'fixing' it somehow
18:08:33 <smooge> we have about 5 packages which need to be dealt with.
18:08:39 <Evolution> smooge: I don't think they're required to *run*, just to build.
18:09:07 <Evolution> so they may not be shipped with the distro. they may get put into plus or something
18:10:10 <smooge> #topic ansible in rhel-7-extras https://pagure.io/epel/issue/40
18:10:20 <smooge> speaking of packages in epel and rhel
18:10:47 <smooge> nirik, did you have anything on this?
18:10:56 <nirik> yeah...
18:11:02 <nirik> so, ansible is now in rhel7 extras
18:11:12 <nirik> but... it's 'unsupported'
18:11:39 <nirik> the epel one will get removed in a few weeks (they asked me to hold off removing it for a bit until they had everything lined up)
18:12:04 <nirik> so probibly I need to do a blog post and epel announce, etc... I am not sure how fast they will be updating.
18:12:32 <Evolution> does it require rolling versions backward?
18:12:41 <Evolution> I haven't looked to see which one they actually shipped
18:12:44 <nirik> https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/7/html-single/7.4_Release_Notes/index.html#technology_previews_red_hat_enterprise_linux_system_roles_powered_by_ansible
18:12:53 <Evolution> dunno if epel was newer than rhel-extras
18:13:30 <nirik> they were supposed to make their one newer... but I didn't check.
18:13:32 * nirik does so
18:13:59 <nirik> ansible-2.3.1.0-3.el7.noarch.rpm
18:14:16 <nirik> epel has: ansible-2.3.1.0-1.el7.noarch
18:14:20 <nirik> so it should upgrade fine
18:15:00 <smooge> other packages I knew about having conflicts
18:15:03 <smooge> http-parser intel-cmt-cat libgpod nftables po4a
18:15:36 <smooge> there may be a couple others as we were going off of a partial list of repos
18:16:08 <smooge> Evolution, what does CentOS do with the RHEL-extras? Is that in CentOS-extras, the main repo or something else?
18:16:19 <Evolution> smooge: centos-extras
18:16:23 <Evolution> which is enabled by default
18:17:00 <smooge> ok I will try to get a full list of packages out to the list later today
18:17:28 <smooge> nirik, for getting them out of epel and blocked.. we should use a releng ticket or something else?
18:17:40 <nirik> well, there's a bug on it already...
18:17:51 <nirik> but in general yeah.
18:18:17 <smooge> ok I didn't know there was a bug already
18:19:57 <nirik> well, on the ansible thing... not others;
18:20:05 <smooge> Ah ok I will do the others
18:20:26 <smooge> Evolution, the build-requires that you are needing were you able to get them out of koji?
18:21:56 <smooge> #topic Ticket https://pagure.io/epel/issue/39
18:22:13 <smooge> OK this is a similar removal of a package from EPEL
18:22:33 * nirik thinks that is a reasonable plan.
18:23:02 <smooge> cool. Evolution bstinson anything for this ticket?
18:23:03 <Evolution> smooge: yeah. we got them out of koji just fine
18:23:14 <Evolution> sorry. crappy wifi in hotel
18:23:29 <smooge> no
18:23:30 <smooge> prob
18:23:31 <smooge> le
18:23:32 <smooge> m
18:23:37 <Evolution> heh.
18:23:46 <Evolution> nah, I'm fine with nuking ceph from epel.
18:24:06 <bstinson> +1 from me
18:24:18 <smooge> +1 from me
18:24:42 <smooge> #agreed Remove ceph from EPEL with plan in ticket 39
18:25:19 <smooge> #topic Ticket https://pagure.io/epel/issue/7
18:25:27 <smooge> I wanted to clean up some old tickets also
18:26:16 <smooge> this was uhm old old
18:26:17 <nirik> didn't that get done?
18:26:21 <nirik> or never did?
18:26:40 <smooge> I don't think it automatically does
18:26:55 <smooge> I believe till was waiting for us to say yay on it
18:27:06 <smooge> at this point I am good for yay
18:27:23 <Evolution> \o/
18:27:25 <Evolution> yay
18:27:57 <smooge> nirik, bstinson you ok on going ahead if it isn't already?
18:28:08 <nirik> sure.
18:28:36 <bstinson> +1
18:29:48 <smooge> ok cool.
18:31:00 <smooge> #agreed Go with auto-retirement if it isn't already there
18:31:10 <smooge> #topic Ticket https://pagure.io/epel/issue/4
18:31:15 <smooge> last ticket for this week
18:31:46 <smooge> I will be putting together a policy and putting it in the ticket later this week
18:31:55 <smooge> so nothing to decide as we did that already
18:32:01 <smooge> just wanted to give a status
18:32:07 <smooge> and speaking of documentation...
18:32:17 <smooge> #topic Document https://pagure.io/epel/blob/master/f/docs/source/EPEL-meeting-process.rst
18:32:45 <smooge> I am going through our old wiki pages and putting them as rst in here
18:33:18 <smooge> I would like to figure out how to get this to pretty document like releng and fesco pagure do
18:33:28 <smooge> any help or ideas would be welcome
18:33:59 <smooge> This week I will be doing the About_EPEL and Joining_EPEL documents and hopefully get the wiki ones ready to retire
18:34:31 <smooge> Anyone who has time/energy/need to proofread are welcome to help me here
18:34:50 <smooge> that pretty much leads to the last 2 items on the agenda
18:35:18 <smooge> unless anyone has something on documents (or documents that should be moved over /updated as soon as possible?
18:36:37 <smooge> #topic Next Meeting Agenda
18:37:35 <smooge> ok my plan for the next couple of meetings is to try and get some old tickets dealt with, a review of any documents/policies that need to be dealt with, etc
18:38:02 <smooge> however my first question is who is available next week? and who is going to be at FLOCK?
18:38:14 <smooge> Evolution, bstinson nirik ?
18:38:28 * nirik got sidetracked. sorry. reading
18:38:36 * bstinson will be at both
18:38:48 <nirik> I should be here next week and should be also at flock to heckle^Whelp
18:40:01 <smooge> I expect Evolutions wifi has him reading an empty page
18:40:11 <smooge> bstinson, thanks. I look forward to seeing you again
18:41:12 <smooge> I don't think avij will be going to FLOCK so the meeting in 2 weeks may just be us 3 in person (unless Evolution is going to be there) Is that ok with everyone?
18:42:07 <bstinson> i believe Evolution was planning on heading there
18:42:21 <bstinson> (not speaking for him of course :)
18:43:52 <smooge> understood
18:44:14 <smooge> ok I think that is it for this topic. I look forward to seeing who can make next week and everyone who is at Flock
18:44:19 <smooge> #topic Open Floor
18:44:37 <smooge> I will close the meeting in 2 minutes if there are no open floor items
18:45:54 <smooge> Thank you all for coming this week.
18:46:56 <smooge> #endmeeting