18:01:22 #startmeeting EPEL (2017-11-15) 18:01:22 Meeting started Wed Nov 15 18:01:22 2017 UTC. The chair is smooge. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 18:01:22 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 18:01:22 The meeting name has been set to 'epel_(2017-11-15)' 18:01:22 #meetingname EPEL 18:01:22 The meeting name has been set to 'epel' 18:01:22 #topic aloha 18:01:23 #chair avij bstinson Evolution nirik smooge 18:01:23 Current chairs: Evolution avij bstinson nirik smooge 18:01:37 morning 18:01:55 hello fellow humans and algorithms 18:02:06 we meet again in the matrix 18:02:49 * nirik has an item on aarch64 repos... 18:02:58 will wait for a couple more minutes to see if bstinson and avij are available 18:03:37 thanks nirik I have nothing beyond asking about "do we do power9 now?" 18:03:43 hello 18:04:05 I think we need hardware for that... as far as I know we haven't gotten any (yet) 18:04:34 * bstinson is here! 18:05:18 #topic AARCH64 in EPEL (with nirik) 18:06:23 so... RHEL7.4 for alt came out this week... that includes aarch64 and power9 18:06:44 so it has a newer kernel and some other packages? 18:06:46 So, I think we should change our koji repos to use it. I don't know what fallout that might have tho 18:06:58 yeah newer kernel and some other newer stuff I think. 18:07:22 The kernel shouldn't affect us but there may be more overlapping packages than before... or perhaps not. I am not sure. ;) 18:08:28 ok point me to where they are downloaded and I can do a repodiff to see if we have overlap 18:09:14 same dir as other old repos but new ones are rhel-7-alt-for-arm-64-optional-rpms and rhel-7-alt-for-arm-64-rpms 18:09:21 does an announcement that we are moving koji to point to it on say Nov 27th sound good? 18:09:36 ok cool I will do so after meeting 18:10:24 the package differences between RHEL 7.4 and rhel-7-alt should be limited 18:10:37 ok thanks 18:10:38 kernel, plus a few others that needed to be updated to accommodate the newer kernel 18:10:45 smooge: well, there's a ticket in to do it now. 18:11:00 I'm not sure if waiting is good. the old one gets no more updates 18:11:24 fwiw, i agree with using rhel-7-alt-for-arm for EPEL. it is now the only aarch64 content coming out of Red Hat. RHELSA is done 18:11:35 yeah. 18:11:56 * jwb goes back in his hole unless there are more questions 18:12:02 ok I am just used to enterprise people bitching about instant changes 18:12:08 without announcements and such 18:12:37 smooge: in this case it's transitioning from a developer preview to a supported content stream. i don't think they can complain too much? 18:12:44 hahahahahahahah 18:13:06 they shouldn't... but they will. ;) 18:13:15 anyhow, I think we should just switch over and announce the switch 18:13:25 I am ok with that 18:13:27 i mean, they can. but it's like... "hey, you seem really invested in this ARM thing. maybe you want to build against things that actually have a future..." :) 18:14:21 although a prior announcement would be nice, I'm also ok with just switching over now. 18:16:12 bstinson, do you have any say on this? 18:16:13 thats all I had really... 18:16:26 oh question.. where is CentOS on this 18:16:36 smooge: i'm +1 for switching 18:17:07 we deliver 7-alt content directly into our aarch64 repos 18:17:30 ^U thanks that what I was typing to ask :) 18:17:52 how long til that is complete? 18:18:35 this is more of a gauging how long of a diff between EPEL for RHEL and EPEL for CentOS might be 18:18:38 it should already be done :) 18:18:53 ok in that case.. nirik I think we are all agreed to move this over 18:19:22 ok, cool. 18:19:41 #agreed AARCH64 will be moved to using rhel-7-alt-for-arm-64-optional-rpms and rhel-7-alt-for-arm-64-rpms channels 18:20:14 #topic upcoming meetings 18:20:35 OK next week is thanksgiving week in the US. I will not be available to run a meeting next Wednesday 18:20:58 The week (2017-11-29) after that I will be around. 18:21:17 The week (2017-12-06) I will be in PHX2 working on my hernia 18:21:31 The week (2017-12-13) I should be around 18:22:24 The weeks 2017-12-20 is also good, but the 2017-12-27 is off. 18:22:57 I believe nirik is not available for the 2017-12-13 meeting to 2018-01-03 18:22:59 I might have some official business (annual meeting) next week at this time of the day, but otherwise I should be around 18:23:09 I will be around except for the 6th will be helping with phx2 stuff and after the 11th I am gone. ;) 18:23:52 i'm good with skipping next wednesday and 06-Dec. i can run a meeting or two if needed 18:23:53 So I would like to cancel next weeks meeting. Cancel 2017-12-06, 2017-12-20, 2017-12-27 meetings 18:24:28 +1 18:24:39 +1 18:24:40 How does 2018-01-03 look? Too close to dialysis for alcohol poisoning? 18:24:54 I should be back then 18:25:07 +1 on cancels 18:25:21 #proposal Upcoming meetings will be 2017-11-29, 2017-12-13, 2018-01-03 18:25:23 looks like 2018-01-03 would be available for me 18:25:48 I am not sure if that is a real directive.. it just looked like it should be :) 18:26:07 sounds good to me 18:26:17 #agreed Upcoming meetings will be 2017-11-29, 2017-12-13, 2018-01-03 18:26:23 #topic Open Floor 18:26:50 OK anything for the floor? techno vs disco? 18:26:57 nothing from me for the open floor 18:27:27 * nirik has nothing more 18:27:43 #endmeeting