18:00:52 <smooge> #startmeeting EPEL (2018-05-30)
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18:00:52 <smooge> #meetingname EPEL
18:00:52 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'epel'
18:00:52 <smooge> #topic aloha
18:00:52 <smooge> #chair avij bstinson Evolution nirik smooge
18:00:52 <zodbot> Current chairs: Evolution avij bstinson nirik smooge
18:00:56 <smooge> Hello everyone
18:00:58 <avij> hello
18:01:50 <nirik> morning everyone
18:02:01 <Evolution> happy 3rd monday everyone
18:02:25 <nirik> 3rd monday of eternal september? :)
18:02:40 <smooge> #topic agenda
18:02:41 <smooge> #info EPIC
18:02:41 <smooge> #info flock talks?
18:02:41 <smooge> #info smbios
18:02:41 <smooge> #info clamav
18:02:41 <smooge> #info open floor
18:02:56 <bstinson> EPEL meeting!
18:03:30 <smooge> So this is pretty much the last meeting but boiled down to its essential components
18:03:48 <smooge> Anyone have anything to add?
18:04:06 <avij> I think the agenda is fine
18:04:09 <smooge> #topic EPIC
18:04:11 <Evolution> lgtm
18:04:57 <smooge> OK I put up the EPIC proposal on my blog and the mailing list. I have a couple of small changes to make from mattdm's comments and I will be putting it towards the devel list.
18:05:08 <smooge> Was there any other feedback that I should incorporate before doing that?
18:05:48 <nirik> might be good for centos-devel too? or is that too off topic?
18:06:03 <smooge> https://smoogespace.blogspot.com/2018/05/blue-sky-discussion-epel-next-or-epic.html
18:06:21 <smooge> Evolution, bstinson avij ?
18:06:23 <Evolution> worth pointing the centos-devel list to, but we shoudl keep the discussion in one place.
18:07:12 <smooge> OK and that place should be epel-devel?
18:07:25 <Evolution> I think so.
18:07:32 <smooge> sounds good to me
18:07:46 <smooge> I will do so this evening
18:08:18 <smooge> OK next topic
18:08:23 <smooge> #topic FLOCK talks
18:09:15 <smooge> The CFP for Flock is coming up. Does anyone have ideas for EPEL related talks?
18:09:18 <Evolution> flock. we should have it.
18:10:38 <bstinson> i'm submitting 2 CI talks, 1 focused on adding tests to some EPEL branches
18:10:39 <Evolution> I'd be in favor of a semi-completed version of the epic/epel proposal.
18:10:44 <avij> well, that EPIC thing perhaps
18:10:45 * nirik needs to ponder on what to submit
18:11:22 <smooge> Evolution, that sounds good. I think we will need to look at how this plays out with people and also what work needs to be done where.
18:11:24 <Evolution> if at flock someone can stand up and say "we've had a couple months of epel/epic discussions. *this* is our way forward"
18:11:40 <Evolution> then see if anyone lights us on fire because of it.
18:11:53 <smooge> yep.
18:11:58 <nirik> it would be nice to have a pool of people who step up to do the work. :)
18:12:02 * smooge note to self Asbestos
18:12:12 <Evolution> nirik: we do.
18:12:19 * Evolution looks pointedly at nirik and smooge
18:12:20 <smooge> nirik, it would be nice if we had a pool.
18:12:22 <Evolution> :-P
18:12:31 <nirik> ha. :)
18:12:46 <nirik> yeah, I mean a pool would at least be relaxing after doing all that work. :)
18:12:50 <nirik> anyhow...
18:13:02 <smooge> I think our pool for everything is going to be the usual suspects.. but we will see what we can add to it
18:13:21 <smooge> bstinson, that talks sounds good.
18:13:30 <smooge> #info smbios
18:13:35 <smooge> #topic smbios
18:13:51 <smooge> ok nirik pushed an update and carlwgeorge wrote up a spec file
18:14:28 <smooge> I started comparing the 3 different spec files:
18:14:32 <smooge> a) EPEL current
18:14:38 <smooge> b) CentOS current
18:14:47 <smooge> c) libsmbios-cpp
18:15:03 <smooge> it is amazing how different 3 things based on the same thing are
18:15:22 <nirik> indeed
18:15:32 <nirik> I meant to review this last weekend, but never got to it. ;(
18:16:17 <smooge> so I have not done a formal review in 8? years so I am having to read a lot of material
18:16:48 <smooge> my first layer one says "well it makes rpmlint cry.. but so does the original spec"
18:17:05 <smooge> I am not sure if we are to make it better than RHEL :)
18:17:18 <nirik> rpmlint is advisory only. you can ignore it if need be
18:17:38 <nirik> if you want I can try and knock it out, or just leave it to you since you already are looking.
18:17:55 <smooge> I will finish the docs on how to review a package this afternoon and get you to say I did the review right or wrong
18:18:31 <smooge> if that sounds good
18:18:43 <nirik> sure, happy to doublecheck
18:18:53 * carlwgeorge waves
18:19:07 <smooge> it should be mainly on your side "lgtm" or "you forgot to wizbang the zipperdo, you got to wizbang the zipperdo or the whogamafinger dies"
18:19:21 <carlwgeorge> to avoid back and forth bugzilla comments, i'm happy to clarify any of my thought process for that spec
18:19:25 <carlwgeorge> in irc i mean
18:19:41 <smooge> carlwgeorge, understood. I won't be able to get to it until 1700 ET
18:19:53 <smooge> but can leave questions if any in IRC
18:20:04 <carlwgeorge> the epel spec file has lots of unnecessary stuff, like suse compatibility
18:20:38 <smooge> it looked pretty close to the RHEL one which odesn't
18:21:00 <smooge> ok I think that is about it at the moment.
18:21:12 <smooge> #topic clamav
18:22:27 <smooge> So clamav is reporting that it is old.
18:22:42 <orc_fedo> clamav will always report that  ;)
18:22:43 <smooge> I started to look into this and found that the 0.100 is in EPEL-testing
18:22:49 <orc_fedo> it is 200 meg of staleness
18:23:15 <smooge> so if you are running clamav and need it to be newer, test the version in epel-testing and give it positive/negative karma
18:23:17 * nirik sends clamav and it's pal xscreensaver off to the corner.
18:24:15 <orc_fedo> nirik: I tried to (as it blows up builder requirements something awful), but my changes to put it on a diet got reverted out  * shrug *
18:24:41 <nirik> clamav has always been a troublesome package. ;)
18:24:45 <orc_fedo> smooge: I did not see it in the epel email this morning -- must have missed it
18:24:54 <smooge> https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2018-88c0c447a4
18:25:44 <smooge> https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2018-4b08b15845
18:25:52 <smooge> those are the 2 for EL6 and EL7
18:26:35 <smooge> so please test and let us know
18:26:49 <smooge> thanks orc_fedo
18:26:54 <smooge> ok last up
18:26:57 <smooge> #topic open floor
18:27:14 <smooge> karaoke starts in 4 minutes
18:27:23 * nirik runs
18:27:58 <smooge> does anyone have regular items?
18:28:18 <avij> nope
18:28:32 <bstinson> none from me
18:29:35 <nirik> nothing here
18:30:29 <smooge> Feelings, wooahh feeeeeelings
18:30:34 <smooge> thank you all
18:30:38 <smooge> #endmeeting