17:01:38 #startmeeting EPEL (2018-09-26) 17:01:38 Meeting started Wed Sep 26 17:01:38 2018 UTC. 17:01:38 This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 17:01:38 The chair is smooge. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:01:38 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 17:01:38 The meeting name has been set to 'epel_(2018-09-26)' 17:01:38 #meetingname epel 17:01:38 The meeting name has been set to 'epel' 17:01:38 #topic Chair and Introductions 17:01:38 #chair avij bstinson Evolution nirik smooge 17:01:38 Current chairs: Evolution avij bstinson nirik smooge 17:01:43 hello 17:01:54 suddenly wednesday 17:01:59 yep. 17:04:05 This weeks meetings are pretty short 17:04:13 we have 3 items: 17:04:34 #topic python36 VFAD 17:05:01 I talked with the Fedora Python people and they let me know I was wrong and python36 is what they would like to support for a while 17:05:23 so we will be aiming this for Python36 and putting together a VFAD in October 17:05:50 sorry I'm late. fires. 17:05:55 understood 17:06:40 so I will put out an announcement to the list for review and then put in whatever changes to the wiki etc needed to make it happen 17:06:45 * carlwgeorge pokes his head in after the python36 highlight word 17:07:34 so the proposed date is 2018-10-16 and we will need to work out a process for what is needed 17:08:39 my guess is to get a bunch of spec files 'lined' up and then reviewed and built during the vfad but that may be off base. I will need input from nirik or some other people on this 17:09:26 other than that I do not have much else on this. Evolution bstinson avij? 17:09:53 I don't have anything to add at this stage 17:09:56 nothing from me 17:10:42 #info will be done on 2018-10-16 17:10:42 #info need to work with nirik on steps needed to do during 17:10:42 #info need to work with bcotten/bex? on setting up VFAD messaging? 17:10:58 ugh...sorry, got sidetracked 17:11:03 * nirik reads back 17:12:11 basically we need to write up some plan and try and get people to do the various parts... write PR's, merge PR's, test builds, etc 17:12:30 carlwgeorge, does that day look good to you to help out on this? 17:13:29 so I am not sure how PRs will work. Do these go against python-foo or do we say we want a python36-foo? 17:14:23 against python-foo normally, but I am sure there will be special cases where we need new packages. 17:14:40 just python3-foo (because we may move to 3.7 later, etc) 17:14:52 smooge: i'm occupied from 1-2 central that day, but the rest of the day is free 17:15:18 ok thanks we can work out a schedule over email 17:16:05 I think churchyard had a outline of packages in one of the devel list posts. 17:16:15 ok will talk with him 17:16:58 ok anything else from anyone on this? 17:17:37 #topic awscli back in EPEL 17:18:09 * nirik really doesn't like the precident here. 17:18:54 OK this is a weird thing. I got a request from Red Hat PM about putting awscli back into EPEL 17:19:43 we could grant an exception, but I worry more things will do that... but perhaps it's not a big deal 17:19:54 The package was pulled into the HA channel which we have said we won't conflict with but people are complaining because HA is not generally available 17:20:54 It is confusing to me because it is in base CentOS instead of extras 17:21:24 CentOS might do the ha channel in base? 17:21:34 I expect it does 17:22:21 if it shows up in https://git.centos.org/summary/?r=rpms/awscli.git it'll get built, generally 17:23:02 bstinson, avij Evolution I would like some ideas from the CentOS side on this because putting it in EPEL is going to cause install questions 17:23:32 smooge: putting awscli in some generally available RHEL channel is not an option? 17:24:04 seems like it might be a good one for extras... but dunno whats involved there 17:24:21 I don't understand the rules for doing that at all 17:24:50 I can ask them about that themselves. The next thing is that I need to ask them to make a formal ticket versus me just bringing this blind 17:25:39 * nirik nods 17:25:53 personally I am of the opinion we change our rules that we don't conflict with any package which shoes up at that URL avij listed 17:25:55 * bexelbie heard his nick 17:26:22 hi bexelbie I am not sure I needed to mention it and will bring it up after the meeting with you 17:26:34 +1 17:27:37 #info smooge will request that a formal ticket is opened 17:28:07 #info smooge will ask if the item can be put into Extras if it is going to be in RHEL 17:28:50 tying our guidelines to what's published in CentOS does have the advantage of better public visibility 17:29:35 I think it also makes it clearer when we can conflict and how we can deal with package rebuilds 17:29:40 I think changing things in 7 now might be... confusing 17:30:08 ok I can just go for 8 onward 17:30:18 if there is an 8 17:30:52 any case not for this discussion item 17:30:59 yeah, we will have to revamp everything then anyhow. ;) 17:31:58 and with the way that 7 has been majorly updated in parts.. if they were to add modularity or something.. we may need to revisit things anyway 17:32:05 #topic pagure 5.0 update request ( https://pagure.io/epel/issue/46 ) 17:32:53 I'm fine with this... as long as they mail epel-announce and give people a heads up. 17:33:06 since the old version is no longer maintained and has security issues 17:33:13 +1, especially with security updates 17:33:18 yeah 17:33:26 +1, due to the reasons listed 17:34:25 I think we lost Evolution to smoke inhalation 17:34:30 avij, ? 17:34:37 +1 17:35:04 sorry, I had to step away for a moment.. my washing machine started jumping around and I needed to check what's going on. 17:35:06 yeah. I'm here 17:36:21 pagure 5 going into epel, yeah. 17:36:32 #agreed Allow pagure to update to 5.0 with announcement to epel-devel and epel-announce ( 5 +1, 0 +0, 0 -1). 17:36:35 ! 17:36:46 #agree Allow pagure to update to 5.0 with announcement to epel-devel and epel-announce ( 5 +1, 0 +0, 0 -1). 17:36:49 or something 17:36:59 this meeting isn't scheduled properly in fedocal - please update it. Right now this room is actually blocked but we've moved Mindshare to #fedora-mindshare 17:37:37 urgh sorry 17:37:47 I will see how i messed that up 17:37:50 I think we moved back an hour and didnt change the calendar... 17:38:00 no I went and changed the calendar 17:38:03 huh 17:38:17 but I probably missed something 17:38:26 ok next week #fedora-meeting-2 probably 17:38:44 #topic Open Floor 17:39:00 #info Next weeks meeting will probably be in #fedora-meeting-2 17:39:12 #info Smooge apologizes to mindshare group 17:39:32 nirik, can you help me after this to see what I moofed? 17:40:06 had to check to be sure we weren't starting DST early or something :P 17:40:24 s/starting/ending/ 17:41:15 no we agreed last week.. right before we all went out for a bunch of drinks 17:41:29 ok I am going to call this a meeting 17:41:52 Thank you all for coming. See you next week at THIS EPEL-TIME, A DIFFERENT EPEL-CHANNEL 17:41:59 #endmeeting