17:00:46 <smooge> #startmeeting EPEL (2018-10-03)
17:00:46 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Oct  3 17:00:46 2018 UTC.
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17:00:46 <smooge> #meetingname epel
17:00:46 <smooge> #topic Chair and Introductions
17:00:46 <smooge> #chair avij bstinson Evolution nirik smooge
17:00:46 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'epel'
17:00:46 <zodbot> Current chairs: Evolution avij bstinson nirik smooge
17:00:54 <nirik> morning
17:00:59 <smooge> Hello everyone. this will be a short meeting
17:01:03 <pgreco> hello
17:01:04 <avij> hello
17:01:57 <smooge> First I would like to move the VFAD one week out to 2018-10-23. I have not had enough time to get things in place for meeting 2018-10-16
17:02:27 <smooge> If that is ok I will work with bexelbie tomorrow/friday on getting that done
17:02:29 * nirik looks
17:02:50 <Evolution> that will be after the centos day at cern, so that's actually better.
17:03:59 <avij> hmm, I'll be abroad and not connected to 'net on 2018-10-23 (and on Wed 24th), but you likely won't need me anyway
17:04:49 <smooge> urgh.. so good for some.. bad for others
17:05:13 <avij> I'd say to go ahead with 2018-10-23
17:05:17 <smooge> ok thanks
17:05:33 <nirik> I'm heading out on the 24th, but should be around on the 23rd
17:06:07 <smooge> #topic python36 VFAD
17:06:07 <smooge> #info will be done on 2018-10-23
17:06:07 <smooge> #info need to work with nirik on steps needed to do during
17:06:07 <smooge> #info need to work with bex on setting up VFAD messaging?
17:06:08 <smooge> #info need to work with python-devel on what they can do
17:06:41 * nirik nods. would be good to get the python-sig involved...
17:06:43 <smooge> I will answer an email from bex after the meeting and get what is needed on our part done
17:06:54 <smooge> s/python-devel/python-sig
17:07:44 <smooge> I don't have much more to add to that at the moment
17:08:10 <smooge> #topic EPEL talk at Devconf?
17:08:23 <smooge> so Devconf is coming up and Devconf RFP is almost done
17:08:39 <nirik> Yeah, a talk on the future of epel could be nice...
17:08:40 <smooge> so I would like to put in at least 1 or 2 EPEL for developers talks
17:08:53 <nirik> lots of things we could talk about there...
17:09:11 <smooge> I can shoot a proposal to the list by end of physical day?
17:09:33 <smooge> but I would be happy to hear anything people want
17:10:18 <nirik> CFP closes 10-26
17:10:29 <smooge> and if others are interested in talks or doing talks I would be happy to help on them
17:10:52 <nirik> smooge: perhaps a group talk? whoever is there, we can divide up and do various people on various topics?
17:10:56 <Evolution> I'd like to see a devconf talk about the future of epel, with the changes/plans smooge and others have sent to the list.
17:10:59 <smooge> and if people are working on proposals or have them already.. I wrote that for this meeting
17:11:27 <smooge> so I am not trying to replace what people may have done.. I just realized I needed to get er done myself
17:11:30 * nirik would be happy to talk on most any epel topic
17:12:31 <smooge> nirik, me too
17:12:52 <smooge> ok I can throw an idea out by end of today and maybe we can brainstrom them out
17:13:34 <nirik> I think a furture of epel talking about plans and possibly epic ideas sounds good.
17:14:00 <smooge> ok will write up the 300 word ones for that and put to list by eod
17:14:44 <smooge> I figure that 10-26 means if I don't have it final written by 10-16 and beta written by 10-06 I would miss it due to usual suspect of fires
17:14:57 <smooge> ok that was all
17:15:16 <smooge> #topic Alternative Architectures
17:15:16 <smooge> #info pgreco has info on arm
17:15:41 <pgreco> yes
17:15:53 <pgreco> this week started uploading patches from the rebuild
17:16:01 <pgreco> nirik fixed libgdiplus a few weeks ago
17:16:10 <pgreco> PR for kstars was accepted (may need need upgrade in the future)
17:16:19 <pgreco> finishing kf5 rebase from rdieter
17:16:32 <pgreco> need to talk to juhp about updated packages from ghc
17:16:49 <smooge> cool
17:16:56 <pgreco> need to talk to someone from "root" due to failing tests (who?)
17:17:05 <pgreco> and someone from the python team, pypy FTBFS (but maybe this can wait until the python rebase)
17:18:10 <pgreco> I guess that's it ;)
17:18:28 <avij> thanks pgreco for working on this
17:18:41 <pgreco> suggestions?
17:18:49 <nirik> ellert is the root person... I think they are pretty active most of the time...
17:18:54 <nirik> ellert@fedoraproject.org
17:19:54 <smooge> thanks pgreco
17:20:03 <smooge> I don't have any suggestions
17:20:13 <pgreco> ack, can someone tell him I'll be sending him an email?, just so he knows
17:22:04 <smooge> ok will do so
17:22:18 <smooge> #topic Removing dead packages
17:22:28 <smooge> #info banshee is uninstallable
17:22:53 <pgreco> it can be rebuilt, just by disabling BR and some options
17:23:02 <pgreco> I can test that
17:23:06 <smooge> ok thanks
17:23:17 <smooge> .whoowns banshee
17:23:18 <zodbot> smooge: owner: spot; admin: elsupergomez, moezroy, tpokorra - Fedora EPEL: moezroy
17:23:26 * nirik is happy to push pr's/patches to things... although I don't want to maintain banshee. ;)
17:23:28 <smooge> I will contact moezroy to have it rebuild
17:24:06 <pgreco> the other option would be to maintain the package that was removed
17:24:13 <smooge> nirik, so that is one thing we haven't documented in the past.. who do we want to deal with proven-packager fixing things in EPEL
17:24:32 <pgreco> libimobiledevice-xxxxx subpackage
17:24:35 <nirik> hum? not sure what you mean?
17:24:47 * pgreco looks the exact name
17:24:50 <avij> banshee-2.6.2-11.el7.x86_64 is uninstallable because it Requires: libgpod-sharp >= 0.8.2. no libgpod-sharp exists.
17:25:04 <pgreco> thanks
17:25:21 <pgreco> libgpod-sharp is a part of the libimobiledevice/iphone support
17:25:25 <pgreco> iirc
17:25:27 <smooge> nirik, if we have a pr fix for banshee, do we as proven packagers fix it.. or do we have moezroy do so
17:25:38 <pgreco> it was removed in the rebase for 7.5 iirc
17:26:03 <pgreco> if we rebuild only that subpackage (added to what RHEL provides)
17:26:03 <nirik> the packager definitely should normally.
17:26:14 <pgreco> we should be able to install current banshee
17:26:19 <nirik> but if they are not around, or it blocks other things, pp can step in
17:27:06 <smooge> nirik, does that make sense .. I was looking at our epel docs last week and where pp step in for it did not seem clear so it popped into my head
17:27:20 <smooge> sorry does that make sense was my "if we have pr fix"
17:27:34 <smooge> but you detailed what should be done
17:27:43 <smooge> man my typing sux today
17:27:44 <nirik> yeah, just the same as a bug with a patch...
17:28:14 <smooge> ok will see if there is a bug and see if moezroy can/will fix it
17:28:32 <smooge> and that was it
17:28:39 <smooge> #topic Open Floor
17:29:06 <smooge> anyone have anything for the open floor.. otherwise this is hour N of meetings for me so I would like to give everyone some time
17:29:18 <avij> nope
17:29:42 * nirik has nothing
17:29:58 <smooge> ok in that case I am going to say good night everyone. see you next week
17:30:05 <smooge> #endmeeting