17:01:14 <smooge> #startmeeting EPEL (2018-11-07)
17:01:14 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Nov  7 17:01:14 2018 UTC.
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17:01:14 <smooge> #meetingname epel
17:01:14 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'epel'
17:01:14 <smooge> #topic Chair and Introductions
17:01:14 <smooge> #chair avij bstinson Evolution nirik smooge
17:01:14 <zodbot> Current chairs: Evolution avij bstinson nirik smooge
17:01:28 <nirik> morning
17:01:48 * orc_fedo waves
17:02:05 <smooge> hello. I have a full agenda.. but didn't send it out before hand as I just finished it
17:02:20 <smooge> #topic Agenda
17:02:28 <smooge> #info smooge biffed cinnamon in EL7
17:02:32 <nirik> fresh off the presses. ;)
17:02:47 <smooge> #info python vfad3.6
17:03:03 <smooge> #info EL-7.6
17:03:10 <smooge> #info Alternate Architectures
17:03:25 <smooge> #info Remove HA from EPEL builds?
17:03:30 <smooge> #info open floor
17:03:43 <smooge> will see who else can make it in shortly
17:04:47 <smooge> I expect daylight savings time is causing issues
17:04:50 <smooge> or the lack of it
17:05:04 <smooge> I have no idea if time is being saved or lost now
17:05:29 <nirik> I think it's beeing murdered. ;)
17:05:54 * tdawson wanders into the meeting, bleery eyed.
17:05:58 <smooge> OK we don't have quorum but I will go over the items
17:06:37 <smooge> #topic Smooge biffed it
17:06:38 <smooge> #info asked cinnamon maintainer to retire packages versus orphan them
17:06:38 <smooge> #info packager did so.
17:07:14 * pgreco arrives late
17:07:26 <smooge> so .. the cinnamon packages were getting closed won't fix with 'no longer supporting EPEL' from the maintainer. I asked them to retire the package but as tdawson reminded me.. I was supposed to ask them to orphan it
17:07:56 <pgreco> smooge, do you know if the decision from the maintainer is technical or personal?
17:07:57 <smooge> but in looking it over.. I am not clear if one can orphan a branch anymore
17:07:58 <nirik> we can unretire them if there's someone that wants them
17:08:22 <smooge> pgreco, ENOTIME ETOOMANYPACKAGES
17:08:33 <pgreco> ack
17:08:54 <smooge> ok I will see if someone can take them over and we can see about getting them unretired/fixed
17:09:01 <smooge> my apologies to everyone here
17:09:04 <pgreco> knowing that allows us different posibilities
17:09:05 <nirik> you can give the entire package to 'orphan' but thats all branches. You can also override just the epel bugs to get 'orphan'
17:09:44 <smooge> I guess there is no fedpkg orphan?
17:11:27 <smooge> #topic python36 VFAD
17:11:27 <smooge> #info Date will be 2018-11-20
17:11:27 <smooge> #info need to send data to bex and bcotton by end of day
17:11:27 <smooge> #info need help rebuilding packages in copr with changes to epel-macros
17:11:52 <smooge> So I am still behind but I will hopefully dig my way out while watching log01 try to do a yum update
17:12:46 <smooge> except someone already did that
17:12:58 <smooge> #topic EPEL-7.6
17:13:32 <nirik> smooge: I did it yesterday, knowing how anoying it is. ;)
17:14:04 <smooge> So CentOS is still building packages and will have stuff out later for CR. We can try and get the packages recompiled and into testing this week also
17:14:10 <nirik> I guess we got the libglvnd fixed?
17:14:22 <smooge> it didn't show up when I ran the repoclosure last night
17:14:36 <smooge> tdawson volunteered to open tickets on all packages needing rebuilds
17:15:04 <nirik> awesome.
17:15:07 <smooge> or at least most of them until he is overwhelmed by predators
17:15:22 <nirik> could we also tag those bugs somehow? have a tracking bug or something?
17:15:41 <tdawson> It looks like there is only about 80 ... which isn't tooo bad.
17:15:44 <smooge> sure.. I have not done one of those in nearly 20 years
17:16:12 <tdawson> Yep, I was thinking of creating a tracking bug for it.
17:16:20 <smooge> tdawson, cool.
17:16:29 <smooge> OK anything else on this?
17:16:30 <nirik> great!
17:16:58 <tdawson> I'll send the tracking bug link to epel-devel
17:17:15 <smooge> #topic Alternative Architectures
17:17:19 <smooge> thanks tdawson
17:17:24 <smooge> pgreco, how is arm?
17:17:41 <pgreco> I've suspended building until we have c7.6
17:18:01 <pgreco> but other than some pkgs failing tests, almost all is up to date
17:18:38 <smooge> cool
17:18:42 <pgreco> json, root, and mkvtoolnix are some of the failing
17:19:14 <smooge> oof.. until you said mvtoolnix I was going to say it was nothing important :)
17:19:15 <pgreco> zchunk failed, but talked to the maintainer and he fixed in the moment
17:19:37 <pgreco> mkvtoolnix depends on the newer json
17:19:45 <pgreco> which only fails because my builder is slow
17:19:59 <smooge> raspberry pi 2?
17:20:13 <pgreco> mustang I think
17:20:29 <smooge> ah
17:20:47 <smooge> OK well hopefully things will get forward to you in a week or so
17:21:08 <smooge> #topic Remove HA from EPEL build channels
17:21:08 <smooge> #info turns out the channel is not available to everyone
17:21:08 <smooge> #info what would need to be rebuilt? [not much it would seem]
17:21:53 <nirik> I think this would be pretty unexpected.
17:22:02 <smooge> OK so many years ago we had the HA channels in EPEL because we were told they were available to everyone.. turns out they are not and our not allowing packages to conflict with things is causing problems
17:22:02 <nirik> what was the problem trying to be solved again?
17:22:07 <smooge> awscli is in HA
17:22:44 <nirik> could we just grant a exception to awscli... but otherwise leave the rest?
17:22:51 * nirik looks to see what else is in there.
17:23:52 <smooge> we could do so
17:24:22 <smooge> I didn't see that many packages in it and I didn't see any packages in EPEL requiring them
17:24:41 <nirik> that seems safer to me... but yeah, I don't know if anything uses packages in there for deps
17:26:14 <nirik> since we don't have quorum, perhaps a ticket and vote there? I'd be +1 to just granting awscli an exception...
17:26:27 <smooge> ok will do so
17:26:35 <smooge> #topic Open Floor
17:27:20 <smooge> anything for the floor today?
17:28:11 <smooge> ok looks like no
17:28:17 <pgreco> not from me
17:28:26 <smooge> so thank you all for coming this week. see you next week. same UTC-time same UTC channel
17:28:31 <smooge> #endmeeting