18:00:29 #startmeeting EPEL (2018-11-28) 18:00:29 Meeting started Wed Nov 28 18:00:29 2018 UTC. 18:00:29 This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 18:00:29 The chair is smooge. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 18:00:29 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 18:00:29 The meeting name has been set to 'epel_(2018-11-28)' 18:00:29 #meetingname epel 18:00:29 The meeting name has been set to 'epel' 18:00:29 #topic Chair and Introductions 18:00:29 #chair avij bstinson Evolution nirik smooge 18:00:29 Current chairs: Evolution avij bstinson nirik smooge 18:00:57 hello 18:01:03 hello 18:01:09 evening 18:01:10 hi all 18:01:21 hello 18:01:31 morning 18:01:33 hello 18:01:33 #topic Agenda 18:01:33 #info Alternative Architectures 18:01:33 #info New SCL to be mirrored 18:01:33 #info Project Documentation 18:01:33 #info EPEL-8 planning 18:01:54 hello 18:03:29 good day to everyone 18:03:36 #topic Alternative Architectures 18:03:38 hey smooge. 18:03:58 pgreco, I thought I would start the meeting with you today 18:04:09 thanks, well, all caught up :) 18:04:31 after CR, all the rpms that were waiting to be built were pushed 18:05:07 and it is all up to date, even some packages that were having problems were built, (though I had to disable some tests) 18:05:38 cool 18:05:45 continuing with altarch, we'll see if we can complete epel for i686 also 18:06:07 but that is after fosdem I guess... 18:06:09 that should be doable I hope 18:06:28 yes, and now even more with the experience in armhfp 18:06:43 Are *all* packages being rebuilt on the new architectures? 18:06:49 it started before the 7.6 release, but had to be suspended 18:07:05 tdawson, all the compatible/exclusivearch ones 18:07:13 OK 18:07:16 some had to be fixed 18:07:35 and I've been reporting those fixes back to the maintainers 18:07:53 so far, no more than 20 packages need fixes applied at every version 18:08:08 I had one of my "can't install" packages not be able to be rebuilt, due to the multi-arch stuff, and opened 4 other bugs to get dependencies built on the other arches ... I'll check and see if they've been rebuilt without the bugs being touched. 18:08:41 It wasn't that they wouldn't built on the alt arch, just a matter of order of builds. 18:08:49 tdawson, pm me or talk and #epel and we'll see about those 18:08:57 pgreco: OK 18:09:08 I banged my head a lot rebuilding epel :) 18:09:15 pgreco: It would be nice not to have to wait two weeks for each layer of the dependencies to get in. 18:09:33 we can do buildroot overrides 18:10:09 ok 18:11:42 ok next topic. 18:11:56 #topic New SCL 18:11:56 #info smooge is working on mirroring it after this meeting 18:12:00 spot ^^ 18:12:33 a new Red Hat software collections was released today. I will be getting it so that hopefully tomorrow or so chrome and things can be built again 18:13:08 devtoolset? 18:13:28 bstinson, thansk 18:13:36 smooge: the 8 one spot wanted has been out a while... 18:13:43 dts-8-* 18:13:44 that was a beta 18:13:44 (I think) 18:14:05 I saw a mail that it was needed for chromium I think 18:14:06 ah, could be. So we replace the old one with the new one? 18:14:25 or I guess we can keep both since scls need activation 18:15:13 i think it makes sense to keep it until it goes EOL 18:15:19 dts-7 that is 18:16:43 yeah. I am planning on not removing it for a bit 18:17:21 some packages depend on dts-7, and maybe some still depend on dts-6 18:17:57 * nirik nods 18:17:59 don't worry we will fix this all with modules 18:18:13 * smooge kickbans smooge 18:18:23 lol 18:18:48 anyway.. I wanted to say that I am on it and if I don't have any other openshift things will be doing it after this 18:18:52 #topic Documentation 18:18:52 #info smooge has no round-tuits. 18:19:07 The wiki could use an update 18:19:12 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL/FAQ#How_do_I_request_a_EPEL_branch_for_an_existing_Fedora_package.3F 18:19:13 its a wiki 18:19:16 points to package db 18:19:22 I'm not sure what the right values should be 18:19:35 actually that entire FAQ needs to go 18:19:38 again 18:19:48 * nirik killed it several times, people then revive it. 18:20:11 jcpunk, my apologies. I reflex when someone says about updating a wiki and it was not helpful 18:20:31 no worries ;) 18:20:32 I think most of the documentation for EPEL needs a rewrite 18:20:56 I started working on it in the epel git repository 18:21:05 I can try and do that sometime, but at this point it would likely not be until after the holidays 18:21:23 but I need to move them from rst to adoc format 18:21:49 so at this point i am expecting I will be taking some PTO and doing it 18:22:09 onto the next derailment 18:22:15 #topic EPEL-8 planning 18:22:15 #info smooge still has no round-tuits 18:22:53 so EPEL-8 needs to have some serious plans written up as there are a lot of things which need to be done to make it working 18:23:16 well, first we need fedora to decide about ursa-major... as we really need that. 18:23:37 I can add a comment to the fesco / releng tickets noting that we do and why 18:24:41 Do we need it? Or do we just say that anything which requires a module needs to be a module? 18:25:50 we could do that, but it would be somewhat limiting... 18:26:13 I mean if you have python-foo you want to add, having to make a module for 1 package is... heavy, but perhaps thats the way to go 18:26:21 well I mean if ursa-major doesn't get shoe-horned in.. that is what we have to do 18:26:35 yep, true enough 18:26:46 so if we go with that starting off.. we can relax it later 18:27:26 it also helps in case ursa-major turns out to be a fireball for the first couple of months 18:29:02 * nirik nods 18:29:26 so, we should look at what it would take to enable a epel8 and a epel8-appstream, composed nightly... 18:30:36 oh and one thing this time. we don't activate rhel8-ha :) 18:30:55 right. ok 18:32:41 ok I don't have much on this. 18:32:54 #topic Open Floor 18:33:07 Anything for the open floor this week? 18:33:28 I don't have much, I've been busy testing CentOS 7.6. hopefully we can get it out the door soon. 18:33:36 cool 18:33:45 SL 7.6 is scheduled for Monday 18:34:00 I've been slowly making it through the EPEL7 packages that don't install. Many thanks to everyone who has been helping. 18:34:13 thank you tdawson! 18:34:14 Troy, any chance for a list of the retired cinnamon packages? 18:34:34 I'll see about getting them back in and maintained 18:34:38 jcpunk: Those are in the bugzilla where they got closed ... just a sec. 18:34:42 oh fudge 18:34:57 I have something.. I didn't put jcpunk to the person in my head 18:35:09 jcpunk: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1647181 18:35:12 nirik, jcpunk needs to be able to take over the cinnamon packages 18:35:23 Comment #3 18:35:35 Thanks Troy :) 18:36:06 The onboarding to EPEL maintainer seems to expect I've already got "Packager" in FAS 18:36:19 yeah... 18:36:27 nirik, what do we need to make him a packager? he works on scientific linux 18:36:39 so, I can sponsor you... you know your way around packaging? 18:36:52 My day job is https://www.scientificlinux.org/ 18:37:01 jcpunk: Are you Pat ? 18:37:03 Yep 18:37:09 Cool 18:37:14 after that you should ping the fedora maintainer and ask them to add you to the packages, then you can open a releng ticket to unretire them 18:37:18 jcpunk knows his way around packaging :) 18:37:24 excellent. :) 18:37:28 Just a bit :) 18:37:38 meet me after the meeting in #epel and we can sort out the buttons to push? 18:37:45 can do 18:37:53 and thanks for taking them on 18:38:03 nirik, thanks I didn't remember if I could sponsor him as a packager or if it took proven packagers 18:38:14 [I was sponsored looooooooooooooong ago] 18:38:26 it needs a packager sponsor... I don't know if you were ever made one or not... 18:39:39 doesn't look like I am 18:39:51 I do have +gitfedora-zikula which I have no idea about 18:39:58 ok thanks nirik 18:40:28 now I just need 3-4 more DoE people here 18:40:31 that sounds like a eastern european dish... ;) 18:40:47 smooge, Bonnie and I make 2 :) 18:40:54 jcpunk: Hi Pat! 18:41:05 Oh Hi Orion :) 18:41:28 ok I think that is all for this meeting 18:41:52 I will email after this meeting a reminder that the meeting has been moved to 1800 UTC for people to update their calendars 18:42:11 #endmeeting