18:06:05 <smooge> #startmeeting EPEL (2019-04-10) 18:06:05 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Apr 10 18:06:05 2019 UTC. 18:06:05 <zodbot> This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 18:06:05 <zodbot> The chair is smooge. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 18:06:05 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 18:06:05 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'epel_(2019-04-10)' 18:06:06 <smooge> #meetingname epel 18:06:06 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'epel' 18:06:06 <smooge> #topic Chair and Introductions 18:06:06 <smooge> #chair bstinson Evolution nirik smooge pgreco tdawson 18:06:06 <zodbot> Current chairs: Evolution bstinson nirik pgreco smooge tdawson 18:06:23 <tdawson> Howdy 18:06:26 <bstinson> ah yes, suddenly wednesday 18:06:31 <nirik> morning 18:06:32 <pgreco> hi 18:07:25 <smooge> thanks for the reminder nirik 18:08:02 <smooge> ok I didn't announce an agenda so I am going to wing the following: 18:08:13 <smooge> #topic Items of Intererst 18:08:31 <smooge> #info Updates in testing needing work 18:08:52 <smooge> #info Open Floor 18:09:05 <smooge> any thing anyone wants to add between the two? 18:09:27 <smooge> oh #info Cleaning out old tickets 18:09:35 <smooge> #info Cleaning out old tickets 18:09:44 <smooge> alright 18:09:52 <smooge> #topic Updates in testing needing work 18:10:26 <smooge> This has come up for a bunch of packages in the last week. People wanting to know why X isn't updated and their manager telling them to remove EPEL 18:10:46 <nirik> huh. 18:10:51 <smooge> wolfy++ for answering the questions with better tact than I did 18:10:52 <zodbot> smooge: Karma for wolfy changed to 1 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 18:10:53 <nirik> this related to the python36 push? 18:11:00 <smooge> no it was for cinnamon 18:11:12 <smooge> the packages needed to make cinnamon work have been in epel testing for a while 18:11:34 <smooge> I tested one of them and gave karma this morning which got that up but I don't know what else migth be there 18:11:35 <tdawson> "a while" as in weeks, months, or years? 18:11:39 <smooge> months 18:11:57 <smooge> since jpoc put them sometime after 7.6 came out 18:12:04 <nirik> well, all we can do is encourage peopel to test and provide feedback 18:12:15 <smooge> so I would like look for ideas on how we could test these things a bit more 18:12:22 <pgreco> smooge, jpoc? jcpunk 18:12:28 <tdawson> But they should have passed the time phase ... so they are push'able 18:12:28 <smooge> jcpunk 18:12:48 <pgreco> tdawson, that is that I thought too 18:13:17 <smooge> i don't know if jcpunk didn't think know he could do so or if he was waiting for anyone to say 'it works' 18:13:33 <smooge> most of the packages I have looked at have had karma on them... anonymous karma 18:13:38 <pgreco> smooge, it was actually working before 18:13:48 <pgreco> it was just removed due to deps (caribou) 18:14:04 <pgreco> readding caribou should have solved those 18:14:09 <pgreco> afair 18:14:19 <smooge> pgreco, yeah.. afaik too 18:14:49 <smooge> so anyway.. I will write some blogs and emails.. and people will still complain and expect things to be done for them 18:15:31 <smooge> would anyone be interested in a testing day? 18:15:44 <tdawson> smooge: Did the people who were complaining give karma? 18:16:06 <tdawson> smooge: A testing day for *all* the old EPEL packages in Bodhi? 18:16:17 <smooge> the ones I talked with did.. but it was anonymous 18:16:28 <smooge> tdawson, no.. just a subset.. something to get things moving 18:17:04 <smooge> I mean I figure I will be putting some of my 20% towards that 18:17:36 <bstinson> longer-term it would be good to look at fedora-CI style tests for EPEL packages 18:17:40 * nirik tested all the really old ones a while back. I guess we cna do that again 18:17:48 <nirik> bstinson: +100 18:18:11 <bstinson> maybe as soon as the entire world isn't on fire, we can put some time into that 18:18:19 <smooge> yeah.. agreed 18:18:28 <tdawson> I just know that many of the golang packages that don't install, do so because there are several of their dependencies that have been in testing for two years. 18:18:45 <bstinson> maybe a good old-fashioned depchase will suffice 18:19:21 <tdawson> bstinson: That's sorta what I've been doing ... but just hitting about 10 packages at a time. 18:19:45 <smooge> tdawson, that sounds like a good thing to tag team on somepoint 18:19:58 <tdawson> Meaning, there's a nice list, and I just take a swipe at some when I have some time. 18:20:42 <smooge> bstinson, tdawson I think both your ideas are better than mine. 18:20:59 <pgreco> tdawson, what do you want to do about libgpod-sharp, I don't know if I can own it 18:21:15 <smooge> i thought we were going to drop it? 18:21:33 <tdawson> Ya ... I'm going to try to rebuild without it ... see who complains. 18:22:01 <pgreco> ok, we'll have banshee without iphone support 18:22:03 <tdawson> I just got sidetracked with other packages when I went through. 18:22:27 <tdawson> pgreco: Well ... nobody has been complaining that they can't install it ... so I dno't think they'll complain without iphone support. 18:22:39 <pgreco> agreed 18:24:04 <smooge> ok next item I had was 18:24:19 <smooge> #topic Cleaning out old tickets 18:24:49 <smooge> tdawson pointed out there were a bunch of tickets in the queue which should be 'fixed' already. I am going through them on Friday and doing that. 18:25:09 <smooge> My other plan will be to take another couple docs out of the wiki and put them in the repo so that they can be redone in readthedocs 18:25:23 <nirik> +1 18:25:38 <smooge> #topic Next Meeting 18:26:11 <smooge> I won't be around next week so need someone else to run 18:26:21 <smooge> or to just drop one week 18:26:42 <pgreco> is there a pressing issue for next week? 18:27:34 <tdawson> I don't know of any 18:27:53 <smooge> not for me either 18:27:55 <bstinson> i think we can probably drop next week 18:28:07 <smooge> nirik, you have anything pressing for next week? 18:29:18 <nirik> don't think so off hand 18:30:16 <smooge> ok cancelled meeting for next week 18:30:32 <smooge> #topic Open Flood 18:31:20 <smooge> #info Meeting 2019-04-17 is cancelled. Next scheduled meeting is 2019-04-24 18:31:35 <smooge> anything else for this week or we all good ? 18:31:59 <pgreco> nothing here today 18:32:15 <tdawson> I'm good 18:33:12 <smooge> ok night all. please tip the zodbot on your way out.. it has to put up with me all the time. 18:33:16 <smooge> #endmeeting