18:00:48 <smooge> #startmeeting EPEL (2019-04-24)
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18:00:48 <smooge> #meetingname epel
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18:00:48 <smooge> #topic Chair and Introductions
18:00:48 <smooge> #chair bstinson Evolution nirik smooge pgreco tdawson
18:00:48 <zodbot> Current chairs: Evolution bstinson nirik pgreco smooge tdawson
18:00:49 <smooge> #topic Agenda
18:01:11 <nirik> morning
18:01:12 <pgreco> hello
18:01:18 <smooge> #info https://pagure.io/epel/issue/54
18:01:18 * nirik goes to get some more coffe, back in a min
18:01:22 <tdawson> Hi
18:01:26 <smooge> no probklem
18:02:45 * bstinson waves
18:03:10 <pgreco> smooge, as nirik said in the issue, if it is build only dep, I'm ok
18:03:30 <pgreco> it is work for you...
18:03:58 <smooge> it is all work for me
18:04:15 <smooge> smoogo is just a pawn in the great game of EPEL
18:04:48 <smooge> #topic Adding another buildtime dep scl
18:05:03 <smooge> so this was ticket 54 and we have 2 +1 in the ticket and 1 here
18:05:38 <tdawson> My question is this ... do we already do this for other SCL based packages?  Or is this the first one?
18:05:49 <smooge> devtoolset was our previous one
18:05:53 <pgreco> tdawson, dts-6 and 7
18:05:56 <pgreco> that I know of
18:06:22 <tdawson> OK, if we have a precidence, so we know what we're doing (and by "we", I mean someone other than me), then I'm ok with it.
18:06:25 <Evolution> \o
18:06:28 <Evolution> sorry I'm late.
18:06:35 <smooge> pgreco, it is just devtoolset so it is dts-6/7 and now 8
18:06:52 <smooge> a corollary to this is that we only did this for EL-7
18:07:01 <pgreco> Oh, I tend to forget dts-8 because I haven't backported it to armhfp yet
18:07:11 <smooge> we had 2 requests for EL6 last week for things
18:07:15 <smooge> hello Evolution
18:07:22 <pgreco> dts-8 is for chromium, right?
18:08:51 <smooge> pgreco, so what we get is the repository rhel-server-rhscl-7-rpms and dts-N shows up in it
18:09:24 <smooge> what i will need to do is another couple of repositories for the llvm
18:09:46 <smooge> then have releng add in whatever configs are needed to make koji work with it
18:10:52 <smooge> then we should be able to have packages build against it
18:12:09 <smooge> nirik, I think that is all .. I expect there is a step like 'nirik does this thing we all forgot'
18:12:46 <smooge> so please log into  https://pagure.io/epel/issue/54 and add your +1/-1 to that and next week we will close this
18:12:54 * nirik finally gets back
18:13:33 <smooge> will let nirik inhale some coffee and respond befoe changing topics
18:13:47 <nirik> yeah, I was already inn favor of this one in ticket
18:14:18 <smooge> well I just wanted to make sure I had not left out any special work needing to be done other than what I outlined above?
18:15:26 <nirik> yeah, we need to sync the repo and add it as a new external to the koji tag... and they need to enable it in their spec
18:23:19 * tdawson checks to see if everyone is still here, or if his cat did something to his IRC client again.
18:23:52 <jsmith> tdawson: We read you loud and clear
18:24:09 <tdawson> :)  Good to know.
18:24:25 <smooge> hey look my internet froze
18:24:38 <smooge> #topic Open Flor
18:24:50 <smooge> I am going to spell this right someday
18:25:03 <smooge> Are there any other issues that need to be done?
18:25:17 <tdawson> My old EPEL updated in Bodhi
18:25:27 <tdawson> Well ... not mine ... but "the" old updates in Bodhi.
18:25:48 <Evolution> rm -rf ?
18:25:50 <Evolution> :-P
18:25:57 <tdawson> I'm fine with that
18:26:19 <tdawson> But I'm wondering what people feel is "too old", so that I can remove them.
18:26:26 <smooge> oh .. the really old ones
18:26:35 <smooge> sorry I was having a hard time getting context
18:26:50 <pgreco> tdawson, just about anything you feel is too old is ok
18:26:56 <tdawson> There are over 500 Bodhi issues that are over 2 years old
18:27:02 <pgreco> if someone wants it back, it can be rebuilt
18:27:17 <Evolution> tdawson: oh, I was just looking at the updates-testing report
18:27:28 <tdawson> Which doesn't show any of these
18:27:29 <pgreco> it may also help to "wake up" those who want it
18:27:39 <nirik> perhaps we could get the report improved to show them?
18:27:49 <nirik> or I guess just unpush them all.
18:27:55 <tdawson> Well, I could start with the really really old ones (9 years old)
18:28:05 <nirik> is this also a problem on the fedora side?
18:28:10 <pgreco> tdawson, wow!!
18:28:27 <nirik> I guess not since fedora eol's old releases... and the updates with them
18:28:42 <tdawson> nirik: No, the fedora ones get closed (or something) once they are no longer supported
18:28:48 <smooge> tdawson, can you put a ticket with that email? We can vote on it next month.
18:28:50 <tdawson> So, F26 and old are all gone.
18:28:50 <smooge> week
18:29:06 <tdawson> smooge: OK, will do.
18:29:07 <nirik> right
18:29:19 <Evolution> personally, if it's older than 6 months, burn it down.
18:29:35 <Evolution> but yeah, lets vote once we know what they are/next week.
18:29:36 <smooge> So here is my policy idea.. when a minor release happens, any updates which are not finalized.. get unpublished
18:29:57 <nirik> well, all of these are ones with -karma right?
18:29:59 <tdawson> smooge: Yep ... and once we start doing those releases, it will be easy to know.
18:30:15 <nirik> I'm fine unpushing those at minor releases.
18:30:17 <tdawson> nirik: Nope ... one or two are, but most have 0 karma
18:30:31 <nirik> tdawson: oh? they just aren't set to autopush?
18:31:12 <tdawson> nirik: I guess not ... and at this point, I wouldn't want them pushed.
18:31:25 <smooge> I think anything older than X time didn't have autopush as an option
18:31:35 <nirik> odd. Someone unset that deliberately on them and then didn't push them.
18:31:44 <nirik> as far as I know it's always been default
18:32:02 <smooge> we talked about it when we started doing that and decided that we wanted any old packages to be tested versus auto-pushed
18:32:04 <nirik> anyhow, we should do something to them
18:32:24 <tdawson> Really?  none of mine have done autopush ... I thought it's always been off by default.
18:32:32 <smooge> yeah.
18:32:48 <nirik> ok. perhaps I am confused.
18:33:23 <tdawson> Well, none of them have +3 karma ... so maybe there is a difference between 2 week autopush vs 3 karma autopush
18:33:25 <smooge> so 1. do we want autopush?
18:33:39 <smooge> after X weeks?
18:34:16 <nirik> ah yes, we decided for epel all should be +3...
18:34:31 <nirik> dunno...
18:35:34 <tdawson> Well ... if it currently is karma only autopush ... I'd say we ait and change it to X week autopush when we start doing the releases.
18:36:53 <nirik> hum, that version of autopush isn't implemented yet... I was thinking of the karma based ones.
18:37:10 <smooge> ah ok
18:37:21 <smooge> well then
18:37:53 <smooge> ok tdawson can you put in a ticket on this and we will discuss it there for next meeting
18:38:02 <tdawson> smooge: Yep, writting it right now.
18:38:25 <smooge> thanks
18:38:38 <smooge> ok my network is getting funky again
18:39:03 <smooge> anything else for today?
18:39:35 <pgreco> do we have anything on the rhel7/python3 ?
18:40:04 <smooge> well other than it might show up in the next release.. but no idea yet since a beta isn't out
18:40:23 <pgreco> right, that is what I meant, anything related to what it might be
18:40:29 <pgreco> and what we'll need to adapt
18:42:17 <smooge> nothing other than what was in that meail
18:43:02 <smooge> sorry
18:43:36 <pgreco> np, I was just optimistic ;)
18:45:00 <smooge> okie dokie then
18:45:19 <smooge> I am going to close this out. Thank you all for coming. Next week we can get some things done I hope
18:45:34 <smooge> and thanks to everyone who helps on #epel I really appreciate it
18:45:35 <tdawson> https://pagure.io/epel/issue/55
18:46:01 <tdawson> You can close out, just wanted to get that in the meeting.
18:46:11 <smooge> #info https://pagure.io/epel/issue/55 WHat to do with old packages
18:46:11 <smooge> #endmeeting