18:00:38 <smooge> #startmeeting EPEL
18:00:38 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Aug 14 18:00:38 2019 UTC.
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18:00:59 <smooge> #topic Chair and Introductions
18:01:18 <smooge> #chair bstinson Evolution nirik smooge pgreco tdawson
18:01:18 <zodbot> Current chairs: Evolution bstinson nirik pgreco smooge tdawson
18:01:36 <smooge> Hello all who are available.
18:01:41 <pgreco> hello
18:01:45 <pgreco> what a week! :D
18:01:51 <smooge> nirik is out
18:02:00 <tdawson> hello
18:02:01 * bstinson waves
18:02:11 <smooge> hello everyone.
18:02:15 <smooge> #topic Agenda
18:02:27 <smooge> #info RHEL-7.7 was released. It broke the world
18:02:39 <smooge> #info EPEL-8.0 was released. It hasn't broken the world yet
18:02:52 <smooge> #info Open Floor
18:03:04 <smooge> #topic RHEL-7.7 was released.
18:03:54 <smooge> OK right before everyone went on travel, RHEL-7.7 came out and it broke various build items due to the changes in python3 and some other items.
18:04:42 <smooge> I want to thank mhroncok a great deal for trying to fix them as quickly as possible while possibly on travel. I also want to thank everyone else who helped debug and come up with where things needed patching to make it work better
18:05:23 <smooge> I believe nirik put in this morning the last 'fix' to allow for some python dep problems
18:05:43 <smooge> Does anyone know of any other issues?
18:06:08 <pgreco> just how do we continue once centos is out
18:07:02 <smooge> I think once centos is out, then the removal of python36 can be completed
18:07:31 <pgreco> and with the new macros, it won't affect the python3/python36 naming?
18:07:32 <smooge> at this point on a rhel box, all the packages in epel-7 do not seem to break a working system.
18:08:07 <smooge> that it might.. I expect we will need to work out a long term plan on that. I believe mhroncok had one and bleve had another
18:08:13 <smooge> or they might be the same one
18:08:38 <pgreco> ok, or a dummy python36
18:09:26 <smooge> so python3 replaces python36 and seems to work on pulling in most items. The build items were fixed with updates to epel-rpm-macros I believe
18:09:56 <smooge> but I really haven't spent enough time looking at it to say exactly what would be needed
18:10:03 <smooge> I am hoping to do so next week
18:11:37 <orionp> I'll just note that a number of qt5 packages will need to get rebuilt for qt5 5.9.7 in RHEL 7.7.
18:11:51 <orionp> Also, I just saw this in an epel7 root.log:
18:11:58 <orionp> DEBUG util.py:585:  BUILDSTDERR:  Problem: package python3-devel-3.6.8-10.el7.x86_64 requires python3-rpm-generators, but none of the providers can be installed
18:12:00 <orionp> DEBUG util.py:585:  BUILDSTDERR:   - cannot install the best candidate for the job
18:12:01 <orionp> DEBUG util.py:585:  BUILDSTDERR:   - nothing provides python3-setuptools needed by python3-rpm-generators-6-2.el7.noarch
18:12:28 <orionp> but the build succeeded
18:12:53 <smooge> orionp, thanks I was not aware of that until now
18:13:00 <smooge> (the qt thing)
18:13:58 <smooge> orionp, ok hopefully someone can look at the other problem after the meeting. I am going to be on PTO in 45 minutes til Fireday
18:15:25 <smooge> ok other issues.
18:15:49 <smooge> #info RHEL-7.7 does not have aarch64 or ppc64le-9 support
18:16:30 <mhroncok> smooge, pgreco: the entire thing was designed to work. and it would have, except the retirement broke centos
18:16:39 <smooge> we need to do decide on what we need to do about the aarch64. The ppc64le-9 is less of a concern because ppc64le-8 support is still there and works on 9
18:16:40 <mhroncok> so after centos 7.7 is out, we just retire the packages again
18:17:02 <smooge> mhroncok, yeah. it was.. you did great. I just didn't think about when to do it
18:17:18 <pgreco> mhroncok: thanks!
18:17:43 <smooge> mhroncok, I should have and said 'we will wait til C7.7 is out on the retirement' and investigated the supposed build breakages closer before saying 'sure' when you asked
18:18:11 <mhroncok> np. it was a 1 weekend breakage anyway :))
18:20:05 <smooge> mhroncok++ again for fixing it on a weekend
18:20:05 <zodbot> smooge: Karma for churchyard changed to 14 (for the current release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
18:20:30 <orionp> I guess we'll start to find out how many aarch64 RHEL7 EPEL users there are out there..
18:20:58 <smooge> I am not sure what the 'python3-devel-3.6.8-10.el7.x86_64 requires python3-rpm-generators, but none of the providers can be installed' means but maybe mhroncok can help after meeting
18:21:34 <smooge> I sent out an email on the various EL-7.7 items. Hopefully we can get this more lined up before 7.8 or 8.2 comes out
18:21:47 <smooge> #topic EPEL-8 released
18:22:09 <smooge> OK I buried the lede on this, but I really want to thank EVERYONE over the last 6-9 months who have helped make this happen
18:22:44 <bstinson> +1000 nice work on this
18:23:01 <mhroncok> congrats to all
18:23:36 <mhroncok> (smooge: ping me later about the python3-rpm-generators thing please)
18:23:42 <pgreco> yeap, seriously, amazing work
18:23:50 <smooge> mhroncok, will do so
18:23:52 <smooge> thanks
18:24:13 <smooge> so we have a bunch of open items on it but I think we did pretty well.
18:24:21 <smooge> I have tested it with RHEL-8 and some other distro
18:25:00 <smooge> the big thing I could ask for people is to help test all the packages which are in testing
18:26:59 * orionp hopes that CentOS 8 isn't too far away...
18:30:11 <smooge> like Paul Masson wine.. CentOS 8 will not be served before its time
18:30:23 <smooge> ok anything else on this?
18:30:36 <smooge> #topic Open Floor
18:30:50 <smooge> OK anyone with items for the floor? or the ceiling?
18:33:18 <smooge> ok thank you all for coming this week
18:33:33 <bstinson> thanks smooge!
18:33:41 <smooge> I hope to have announcements and people who will discuss the EPEL-8.1 modularity plans next week
18:33:45 <smooge> #endmeeting