18:00:53 <smooge> #startmeeting EPEL
18:00:53 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Sep  4 18:00:53 2019 UTC.
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18:00:53 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'epel'
18:00:58 <smooge> #meetingname epel
18:00:58 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'epel'
18:01:20 <nirik> good morning everyone. How's everyone on this lovely monday?
18:01:21 <smooge> #chair nirik smooge Evolution bstinson pgreco
18:01:21 <zodbot> Current chairs: Evolution bstinson nirik pgreco smooge
18:01:32 <smooge> #chair nirik smooge Evolution bstinson pgreco tdawson
18:01:32 <zodbot> Current chairs: Evolution bstinson nirik pgreco smooge tdawson
18:01:41 <smooge> #topic Hellos
18:01:47 <smooge> is writing this from memory
18:01:56 <pgreco> hello everybody
18:03:01 <smooge> #info Smooge will not be online next week. Someone else needs to setup and run this
18:03:11 <bcotton> .hello2
18:03:11 <zodbot> bcotton: bcotton 'Ben Cotton' <bcotton@redhat.com>
18:03:20 <smooge> hi Ben
18:03:44 <smooge> #info Ben Cotton has been awarded the job of being EPEL Program Manager
18:03:45 <tdawson> .hello2
18:03:46 <zodbot> tdawson: tdawson 'None' <tdawson@redhat.com>
18:04:44 <smooge> #topic EPEL-6
18:05:57 <smooge> #info RHEL-6 will be End of life at 2020-11-30 ish
18:06:12 <smooge> I don't think there are any issues with EL6 at the moment
18:06:17 <smooge> #topic EPEL-7
18:06:23 <carlwgeorge> .hello2
18:06:24 <zodbot> carlwgeorge: carlwgeorge 'None' <carl@george.computer>
18:06:26 <smooge> ok EL7.7 is fun like always.
18:06:45 <carlwgeorge> sorry i'm late, i did want to bring up an epel6 bug
18:06:51 <smooge> #topic EPEL-6
18:06:59 <smooge> ahhahahah
18:07:05 <smooge> ok carlwgeorge what is the issue?
18:07:29 <carlwgeorge> i haven't filed a bugzilla for it yet, but the manual byte compile macro is broken
18:07:49 <carlwgeorge> https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/python-rpm-macros/blob/el6/f/macros.pybytecompile#_24
18:08:09 <smooge> ok whee
18:08:12 <carlwgeorge> sys.version_info.major and friends don't exist in py2.6
18:08:25 <smooge> of course they don't
18:08:54 <smooge> ok if you could file a bug then the python people can try to fix it
18:08:58 <carlwgeorge> sorry i haven't file a bug for it yet, i noticed it recently and keep thinking "i need to go file a bug for that"
18:09:07 <carlwgeorge> yup, i'll file the bug today
18:09:15 <smooge> thanks
18:09:47 <smooge> #info current manual python byte compile macro is broken
18:09:52 <smooge> #info bug will be files
18:09:56 <smooge> #topic EPEL-7
18:10:18 <pgreco> python36-pip
18:10:19 <smooge> #info RHEL-7.7 got released. CentOS-7.7 CR is creeping out I believe
18:10:55 <pgreco> let me know when I can speak about that ;)
18:11:04 <smooge> oh sorry I was waiting for you to complete
18:11:23 <pgreco> python-pip-epel was added
18:11:34 <pgreco> to build python2-pip and python34-pip
18:11:51 <pgreco> and python36-pip needs to be removed
18:12:01 <pgreco> as now rhel provides python3-pip
18:12:08 <pgreco> wow, too many pips... :D
18:12:31 <pgreco> don't know who is keeping track of that
18:12:41 <smooge> ok I expect that is meant to be me
18:12:46 <pgreco> but it is related to the c7-cr release
18:12:59 <pgreco> and the python36 you had to resurrect
18:13:18 <smooge> so I think we are doing removals after c7.7 has gotten out further
18:13:59 <pgreco> ack
18:15:42 <smooge> ok any other 7 issues?
18:15:53 <pgreco> aarch64?
18:16:16 <smooge> #info A lot of python36 packages will be removed from EPEL-7 when CentOS7.7 is released
18:16:58 <smooge> #info aarch64 is still a problem. Trying to have both CentOS and RHEL as targets are going to break due to name differences and noarch builds
18:17:39 <tdawson> I thought we were going to change it to be an alt arch.
18:17:41 <smooge> so pgreco brought up the fact that koji is going to build against CentOS-7 for noarch every now and then and some other items
18:18:12 <smooge> tdawson, last week nirik thought of just having the channel point to CentOS trees inside the same koji target.
18:18:29 * nirik nods.
18:18:38 <nirik> I would think it would work, but... I could be wrong.
18:18:44 <nirik> perhaps we could test in staging?
18:18:45 <smooge> There were 2 problems, the noarch and hte fact that koji is going to blow up because names are not 1:1 between CentOS and RHEL
18:18:47 <tdawson> Ok ... but will the noarch's still match?  Or can we turn the noarch check off?
18:19:51 <pgreco> if we can remove aarch64 from the noarch rotation, it would be a good thing
18:19:59 <pgreco> don't know if we can
18:20:07 <smooge> there may be 3 problems.. the noarches won't match.. sometimes we will be building src.rpms and noarch from aarch64 and ..
18:20:53 <smooge> frankly dealing with this is probably yet another project
18:21:45 <nirik> I think noarch should match...
18:21:52 <nirik> and no, I don't think we can disable the check.
18:22:14 <smooge> bcotton, can I bring this up with you later? The problem is that RH dropped support for aarch64 in RHEL-7 and we have been building for it.
18:22:26 <bcotton> smooge: absolutely
18:22:37 <nirik> we could pretty easily test the known cases in stg...
18:24:36 <smooge> do we need to wait until CentOS-7.7 comes out? Or want me to bung up something with what is in their 7.6+CR?
18:24:56 <nirik> we could test with the CR I would think?
18:25:12 <nirik> hum, but prod uses the same external repos...
18:25:19 <nirik> but I guess we could change stg
18:26:41 <smooge> ok I am on PTO next week so it will need someone other than me. I can get the stuff downloaded to batcave but beyond that..
18:26:47 <carlwgeorge> smooge: here is the bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1749040  if i do the info meeting command is there a way to put that back in the EPEL-6 topic?
18:27:27 <smooge> not really
18:27:38 <smooge> I would need to undo all the items before then
18:27:44 * nirik can possibly look into it, but it might not be until next week.
18:27:44 <smooge> then resubmit them
18:28:00 <smooge> ok so we can look at this in 2 weeks
18:29:17 <smooge> ok any other EL7 problems?
18:29:54 <tdawson> After Centos 7.7 has been out for a couple of weeks, I'll do a "does this install" sweep.
18:30:50 <tdawson> That's several weeks away, but I wanted to bring it up so people know I'm planning on doing it.
18:31:07 <nirik> +1
18:31:28 <smooge> #info After CentOS 7.7 comes out tdawson will do a sweep of packages to see if it will install
18:31:57 <smooge> #topic EPEL-8
18:35:19 <smooge> ok we currently have about 1400 EPEL-8 users.  ~1300 x86_64, ~30 ppc64le ~20 s390 ~10 aarch64
18:35:55 <smooge> sorry that should be 1330 x86_64
18:36:16 <smooge> anyway it has been growing slowly over the last couple of weeks
18:36:59 <smooge> sgallagh, bcotton and others started working out what the work for EPEL-8.1 would be to get modules in places
18:37:39 <smooge> it is still in a sort of discovery state so I don't have anything than 'a meeting was had.. notes were taken.. ideas talked about.'
18:37:41 * sgallagh is here (sort of).
18:37:57 <sgallagh> This meeting is at an unfortunate time.
18:37:57 <smooge> so not much to talk about for here I think
18:38:11 <smooge> all meetings are at an unfortunate time
18:38:19 <sgallagh> Right. Our kickoff meeting was itemizing the work we know we need to finish.
18:38:35 <sgallagh> I’m planning to turn it into tickets and probably a blog post early next week.
18:39:01 <smooge> sgallagh, would it help for a meeting focused on this to be at a different time?
18:39:28 <sgallagh> Let me get back to you about that.
18:39:51 <sgallagh> My connection is flaky, did my comment about tickets and a blog get through?
18:40:09 <bcotton> sgallagh: yes
18:40:42 <sgallagh> Ok, then that is all I have to report thus far.
18:40:47 <sgallagh> More to come soon.
18:41:47 <smooge> ok thanks
18:41:56 <smooge> #topic Open Floor
18:42:22 <smooge> does anyone have anything for the open floor
18:42:55 * nirik doesn't.
18:43:23 <pgreco> nothing here
18:44:02 <tdawson> Nothing from me
18:44:14 <carlwgeorge> i guess now would be a good time to info my bug
18:44:23 <smooge> yep
18:44:36 <carlwgeorge> #info el6 py_byte_compile bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1749040
18:44:37 <smooge> #info EL6 bug is https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1749040
18:44:55 <carlwgeorge> whoops
18:46:21 <smooge> one of them will make it
18:46:32 <smooge> ok that is it
18:47:04 <smooge> have a good week. if someone else wants to run the meeting next week please do. I will be back for the 2019-09-18 meeting
18:47:35 <nirik> I can probibly run it.
18:48:45 <smooge> alright. well with that. thank you all for coming
18:48:48 <smooge> #endmeeting