21:01:03 #startmeeting EPEL (2020-07-10) 21:01:03 Meeting started Fri Jul 10 21:01:03 2020 UTC. 21:01:03 This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 21:01:03 The chair is tdawson. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 21:01:03 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 21:01:03 The meeting name has been set to 'epel_(2020-07-10)' 21:01:04 #meetingname epel 21:01:05 The meeting name has been set to 'epel' 21:01:06 #chair nirik tdawson bstinson Evolution pgreco carlwgeorge 21:01:06 Current chairs: Evolution bstinson carlwgeorge nirik pgreco tdawson 21:01:07 #topic aloha 21:01:15 hello! 21:01:19 howdy 21:01:21 hi pgreco 21:01:24 hi carlwgeorge 21:01:38 hello 21:01:46 hi nirik 21:02:16 Wow, we've got a full quorum in the first minute 21:03:06 I'm still going to wait my usual 5 mintues, cuz I need to step away for two of those minutes. 21:05:30 OK, I'm back 21:05:40 * bstinson shows up late 21:05:46 hi bstinson 21:05:49 #topic Old Business 21:05:50 #info Proposal to update Guidelines and Policies about module names and stream names 21:07:26 we needed confirmation that the module could have a prefix, right? 21:07:26 If I read things right, it looks like the modularity folk would like to not add -epel to the end of stream names, due to this breaking and/or making complicated the module dependencies. 21:07:46 pgreco: The stream name, correct. 21:08:08 yeah, something automatic would be good 21:08:13 bummer. 21:08:19 so has to be manual... 21:08:21 but that would break deps instead of builds 21:08:42 It has to be manual, but maybe we could get something into bodhi 21:09:15 So, even if they built a module with the same name and stream name, it wouldn't make it through updates. 21:10:08 sounds like a gating test... 21:10:15 yep 21:10:54 That will take a little bit to investigate and/or implement 21:11:07 I'd like to update the policy sooner though. 21:11:46 but in this case, updating the policy would remove nodejs/10 21:11:54 is https://pagure.io/epel/issue/104 the context for this? 21:12:01 Correct 21:13:00 pgreco: Well, nodejs/10 in epel-modules is already slated to be removed, along with nodejs/12 and nginx/1.18 21:13:10 i knew we agreed that the module name should match the corresponding rhel module, but i wasn't expecting to get identical stream names 21:13:35 carlwgeorge: Ya, me neither ... till it happened. 21:13:47 yeah. ;( 21:14:29 i'm in favor of changing the policy to explicitly forbid that 21:14:38 I'm ok with changing the policy, stream name shouldn't match 21:15:08 but I'd like to find a way that makes it easier for people to build for fedora and epel using the same data 21:15:15 Sounds like we have two +1's for the policy change. 21:15:39 yeah, I am ok with the policy change... 21:15:48 even before we can set the tests up for it. 21:17:14 pgreco: Yes, I would like to have a way to build for fedora and epel using the same data as well.. 21:17:38 But for the time being, I think we need the policy change to happen while that is being investigated. 21:17:41 which modules did this? i don't see any duplicated stream names. 21:17:55 they have since been removed. 21:18:11 gotcha 21:18:42 With my +1, I believe we have +4. Correct? 21:18:46 related small observation, 389-ds in rhel but 389-directory-server in epel 21:18:55 i'm ok with the policy change 21:19:06 +5 21:19:14 math checks out 21:19:57 #info policy change, as stated it issue #104 is approved by commitee: +5 for 0 against, 1 person absent. 21:20:04 https://pagure.io/releng/issue/9554 (It was nodejs:10 nodejs:12 nginx:18 ) 21:21:08 Should we open a separate issue to deal with setting up a bodhi check? Or use this older one. I'm thinking I'll open a new issue. 21:21:51 well, who is gonna work on it? ;) yeah, probibly a new one. 21:22:25 I don't know. I haven't ever written a bodhi check. 21:22:46 Maybe we could persuade someone who knows how to do it. I'm sure for some people it's something easy for them. 21:23:52 Anything else on this before we move on? 21:24:37 #info EPEL-6 is End of Life in 2020-11. It will be moved to archives in 2020-12 21:24:38 #info THIS IS NOT A DRILL. 21:24:59 5 months. This is getting exciting. :) 21:25:14 In a "watching your grass grow" kind of way. :) 21:25:31 #topic EPEL-7 21:26:08 I don't have anything for epel7. Does anyone else? 21:26:44 not here 21:26:49 #topic EPEL-8 21:27:53 1 sec on this, I'm checking the nodejs package that was being replaced 21:27:58 don't remember exactly the hame 21:28:00 *name 21:28:08 There is the problem that the CentOS Devel repo we are pulling is still on CentOS 8.1 ... but that's being worked on. 21:28:19 pgreco: with the module stuff? 21:28:53 yeah, I was sure I had seen it yesterday 21:29:10 but my memory is not what it used to be ;) 21:29:21 Well, there is nodejs itself, but then http-parser libuv and libnghttp2 21:29:47 it was libnghttp2, but it isn't there anymore, so we can move on :) 21:30:02 Sounds good. 21:31:45 bstinson: nirik: it's been a few weeks since I asked about the -playground stuff. Anything to report? 21:32:13 still waiting on me :( sorry 21:32:19 not from me... 21:32:33 I probrubly shouldn't be asking in this meeting, rather before, but I keep forgetting to ask ahead of time. 21:33:10 Anything else for epel8 then? 21:34:01 not from me 21:34:36 #topic General Issues / Open Floor 21:35:47 anything else, or are we ok with a shorter meeting? 21:35:50 going once.... 21:35:58 going twice... 21:36:03 sold! 21:36:08 ha 21:36:11 at the grundy county auctiuon 21:36:20 Thanks to everyone for coming this week. 21:36:20 *auction 21:36:21 good weekend everybody :) 21:36:31 later yall 21:36:33 Have a good weekend, and good week. 21:36:44 #endmeeting