20:00:11 #startmeeting EPEL (2021-05-05) 20:00:11 Meeting started Wed May 5 20:00:11 2021 UTC. 20:00:11 This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 20:00:11 The chair is tdawson. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 20:00:11 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 20:00:11 The meeting name has been set to 'epel_(2021-05-05)' 20:00:13 #meetingname epel 20:00:13 The meeting name has been set to 'epel' 20:00:14 #chair nirik tdawson bstinson pgreco carlwgeorge michel_slm 20:00:14 Current chairs: bstinson carlwgeorge michel_slm nirik pgreco tdawson 20:00:16 #topic aloha 20:00:23 hello! 20:00:38 Hi pgreco 20:01:16 morning 20:01:19 .hi 20:01:20 dcavalca: dcavalca 'Davide Cavalca' 20:01:23 Hi nirik 20:01:27 Hi dcavalca 20:02:28 hello 20:02:34 Hi SSmoogen 20:02:38 * SSmoogen got back from a long walk 20:02:50 I hope it wasn't off a short pier. 20:03:16 I can't get used to the SSmoogen... 20:03:37 He's so formal. :) 20:03:51 I am trying this Matrix thing so have smooge as my irc and Ssmoogen as matrix 20:04:32 Ah ... ok. Makes sense 20:05:10 oops, I'm late 20:05:10 anyway.. I worked on EPEL this week 20:05:10 .hello salimma 20:05:11 michel_slm: salimma 'Michel Alexandre Salim' 20:05:15 Hi michel_slm 20:05:24 At least you beat carlwgeorge 20:05:32 having too much "fun" having to test code in 3 different platforms 20:05:39 * nirik has a epel-release thing 20:05:43 Oh joy. :) 20:06:03 nirik: Did you need it earlier in the agenda, or on open-floor? 20:06:17 whatever works. it's not urgent 20:06:28 OK, let's go through our usual stuff then. 20:06:35 #topic Old Business 20:06:38 tdawson: ouch 20:07:03 EPEL-Packaging-SIG 20:07:28 I've filed tickets for a few more packages and added them to the tracker 20:07:29 Ha! ... I just noticed the timing of mine, and nirik's text ... "Oh joy" was for michel_slm 20:07:31 decent progress so far 20:07:47 still blocked on https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1942748 though, I just pinged that again today 20:09:26 dcavalca: Hmm ... do we need intervention? He seemed to try at first, and now it's been a month with no reponse. 20:10:03 tdawson: yeah, not sure what's going on there 20:10:23 can't wait until we have a workflow for easily getting EPEL-only access to packages 20:10:55 Yep ... and related to that, has bodhi been updated yet. 20:10:59 no 20:11:00 there's a few in similar states, e.g. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1844523 which wasn't even acknowledged 20:11:49 dcavalca: I hate to say "wait another week" ... and if he hadn't repesponded at all, I would just say open a ticket and make yourself co-maintainer ... but I'm sorta inclined to wait another week. 20:12:09 tdawson: I'm fine with waiting another week 20:12:36 does the new "can download things from koji" change anything? 20:13:05 I can try and push the bodhi update to prod... 20:13:19 might not be until early next week at this point tho 20:13:26 dcavalca: If you could, ping all the bugs that haven't responded at all, and then next week we'll get a list and start going through them, getting them in. 20:13:37 Following the policies in place. 20:13:47 tdawson: yep, I can do that 20:14:40 sorry i'm late yall 20:14:50 nirik: early next week is better than ... than not early next week. :) 20:15:00 indeed 20:16:41 ok I just did a pass on all the tickets 20:16:48 uwsgi is orphaned btw 20:16:54 * dcavalca is not going to take that one :) 20:16:57 OK, so for next week, we'll hope that nirik has bodhi deployed in prod, and dcavalca has the list of maintainers that haven't responded to pings ... and then we can have a package party. 20:17:20 * nirik is filing a ticket to track it now. 20:17:31 awesome 20:18:12 Anything else for the SIG? 20:18:46 dcavalca: uwsgi is a nightmare package 20:19:05 https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/9933 20:19:29 And just as I was about to ask if he was here. :) Hi carlwgeorge 20:19:32 Thanks nirik 20:20:01 Let's move on to epel-next 20:20:26 carlwgeorge: Any progress? 20:20:34 thanks to SSmoogen we have an epel8-next build target in prod koji https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildtargetinfo?targetID=18379 20:20:48 Ya!!! 20:21:02 hurray 20:21:12 he also did something in bodhi but i don't see it listed in releases yet 20:22:14 i sent a pr to fedora-infra/ansible for the bodhi2/backend role, to update the script that syncs stuff to the mirrors https://pagure.io/fedora-infra/ansible/pull-request/565 20:22:54 yay, proper Stream support 20:23:47 carlwgeorge: Do you need some test (although real) packages to run through there? 20:24:35 sure, i tested it in stg but if someone wants to poke it in prod go for it 20:25:04 cs8 just had a qt5 rebase so you could try a scratch rebuild of anything that links against qt5 20:25:11 I've got the whole kmail, and friends, that will only build on RHEL8.4 ... I'll see about starting those through. 20:25:35 It did? Ouch ... I'm a little late to the game. 20:25:44 yeah 5.12 to 5.15 20:25:58 Is stream still on 8.4, or have we moved to 8.5? 20:26:15 it moved it 8.5 about a month ago 20:26:27 Ahh ... ok, that explains it. 20:26:28 thankfully since last week cs8 keeps old packages, so both 5.12 and 5.15 are available, so not quite as breaking 20:27:04 upgrades my complain but at least people will be able to exlude 20:27:07 *may 20:27:21 carlwgeorge: that seems worthy of an announcement 20:27:28 yeah working on one :D 20:27:29 i thought he did 20:27:33 ah perfect 20:27:39 also need to announce that the boot iso works finally 20:27:40 So ... I should be able to look this up, but I'm not seeing it ... RHEL 8.4 hasn't been released yet, correct? 20:27:54 shhhh 20:28:30 it's been announced but not released yet, their new marketing strategy 20:28:41 * carlwgeorge rolls eyes 20:29:36 * tdawson tries to download 8.4 from official channels, and see's its only 8.3 20:29:59 tdawson: cs8 is a mix of +1 and +1+1 20:30:01 OK, so it's not officially released ... but just annouced ... ugg, no wonder I'm confused. 20:30:19 so it has some 8.4 stuff and some 8.5, while released is still 8.3 20:31:09 I believe I will let marketing know my opinion of the new strategy. In a nice way ... no really, I'll be nice. 20:31:55 carlwgeorge: But anyway, thanks for letting me know about qt5 ... looks like I'll have more than just kmail to run through. 20:33:29 pgreco: well, for ~5 months its +.1, then for ~1 month its +.2, then back to +.1 20:33:52 Anything else from epel-next? 20:34:19 i think that's it, hope to have even more progress next week 20:34:23 * michel_slm prefers to pretend marketing and PR do not exist 20:35:09 carlwgeorge: Thanks for that. It's exciting. 20:35:30 Next, EPEL Fails To Install 20:35:48 I have a pull request for this - https://pagure.io/releng/pull-request/10104 20:36:32 Does anyone know who runs the Fedora FTI ? Is that manual or automated? 20:36:33 * nirik can review 20:36:46 manual. churchyard runs it I think? 20:37:54 ok. When/If this get's merged, I'll talk with him about giving it a test run. 20:37:58 kinda hard to review... did you test any? could point it to parner-bugzilla ? 20:39:57 parner-bugzilla ? 20:41:20 partner-bugzilla 20:41:45 pardner-bugziller 20:42:13 I'm not sure what that is ... but just ran some tests and found a bug ... ok ... let me get back to that. 20:42:38 partner-bugzilla. sorry. 20:42:44 it is a different instance. I think it is what we use in Feodra infra for larger api 20:42:45 yeah, it's a staging one that doesn't send emails 20:42:58 and that was it.. not larger api 20:43:31 Oohhh ... that would be better, odd that I haven't heard of it before. Do I just add .stg. to the usual bugzilla? 20:43:47 no. 20:43:54 https://partner-bugzilla.redhat.com 20:44:44 Cool. I'll run some tests against that. I was really having a hard time figuring out how to run tests without just running it live. 20:44:59 yeah, lots of people have hit the same thing. :) 20:45:52 OK, I'll flag the pull request as a work in progress. 20:45:55 you know I wish we had called it pardner-bugzilla back long ago.. to go with rawhide 20:46:07 *laughs* 20:46:11 we should have. 20:46:21 Oh, looks at the time and realizes nirik has something. 20:46:24 it should have a banner telling you to reach for the sky! 20:46:36 there's a snake in my boot 20:46:59 *laughs more* ohh ... man 20:47:34 Because of the time, I'm going to just go to nirik, and if we have more time, we'll got back and ask about everything else. 20:47:49 nirik: You had something for the agenda 20:47:52 hopefully I will be quick: 20:48:19 we want to adjust the commented out baseurl in epel-release. 20:48:33 Right now it's download.fedoraproject.org, which is a redirect via mirrormanager to some mirror. 20:48:47 it could be http, it could be https, it could not have the content, it's not a good time. 20:48:55 https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/epel-release/pull-requests 20:49:19 so in fedora we did this and left commented entries with 'download.example' as the host so people who use sed to change things could still do so. 20:49:48 I'll try and send an announcement on it... but thought I would run things by everyone here first. 20:50:26 I +1 this change 20:51:07 If I remember right, download.fedoraproject.org was getting overwhelmed, right? 20:51:27 Or was it just a bad re-direct? 20:51:30 this shouldn't affect people already running modified repo files 20:51:34 no, it's just not a good thing to enable. It makes you much less secure, as it could give you a mirror thats http 20:51:38 because the new will be .rpmnew 20:51:47 pgreco: yep. 20:51:56 Ah, ok. 20:52:07 I'm a meh, and preferred the dl.fpo link, but understand we don't want folks to use only the masters 20:52:16 in general baseurl is less secure, or at least only as secure as the mirror you are pointing to. 20:52:42 yeah, safer default sounds sane, +1 20:52:46 metalink provides proof against a lot of other attacks (downgrades, bad mirrors, tampered with packages, etc) 20:52:53 I'm a +1 also 20:52:56 I normally just use baseurl to "template" manual changes 20:53:04 right. Fedora/EPEL still doesn't sign repomd.xml IIRC 20:53:04 so as long as there is a reminded there, I'm +1 20:53:14 yeah... and if you want to point to a local mirror or one you trust that makes perfect sense. 20:54:01 cyberpear: correct. dnf/yum bugs need fixing before we will consider it... but there is work ongoing to improve things there. 20:54:50 thats all I had 20:54:58 Thank nirik 20:55:08 Anything for EPEL7 or 8? 20:55:13 sounds great nirik 20:55:56 #topic General Issues / Open Floor 20:56:10 We've got 5 more minutes, anything else? 20:56:36 Give us back our time! 20:56:59 Wha ... I can't do that ... I've already spent it :( 20:57:19 * nirik fears his time is underwater. I can't even refinance! 20:57:46 goes to invest in crypto-time 20:58:02 timechain! the utimate! 20:58:21 I only deal in real, solid time, none of that imaginary stuff. 20:58:53 And with that ... thank you everyone for being here, and for all the work you've done this past week. 20:59:01 I'll talk with you next week, if not sooner. 20:59:04 tdawson++ thanks! 20:59:04 michel_slm: Karma for tdawson changed to 1 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 20:59:08 later yall 20:59:10 hey, first karma 20:59:20 Ha! ... thanks 20:59:24 thanks everyone. I hope things stay quiet so we can keep getting things done. ;) 20:59:31 #endmeeting