20:00:22 #startmeeting EPEL (2021-07-21) 20:00:22 Meeting started Wed Jul 21 20:00:22 2021 UTC. 20:00:22 This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 20:00:22 The chair is tdawson. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 20:00:22 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 20:00:22 The meeting name has been set to 'epel_(2021-07-21)' 20:00:23 #meetingname epel 20:00:23 The meeting name has been set to 'epel' 20:00:23 #chair nirik tdawson bstinson pgreco carlwgeorge michel dcavalca 20:00:23 #topic aloha 20:00:23 Current chairs: bstinson carlwgeorge dcavalca michel nirik pgreco tdawson 20:01:09 .hi 20:01:11 dcavalca: dcavalca 'Davide Cavalca' 20:02:02 Hi dcavalca 20:02:22 Must be a busy day ... we usually have more people here by now. 20:02:31 hello! 20:02:42 there's guadec running concurrently 20:02:56 Hi pgreco 20:03:12 hey, I have a really low priority thing for open floor 20:03:47 pgreco: OK, thanks, I'll make sure we get there. 20:05:33 Hmm with this few of people, we might get there rather fast :) 20:05:39 #topic Old Business 20:05:50 Do we have any SIG news? 20:06:33 Oh, michel said he wouldn't be here. 20:07:06 He worked on the macro/script he was working on, but doesn't sound like he finished it. 20:07:12 there's a ticket up for rpmautospec support in epel 20:07:30 as right now packages using it will fail to build, which is annoying as it picks up adoption 20:07:36 .hi 20:07:37 carlwgeorge: carlwgeorge 'Carl George' 20:07:40 Hi carlwgeorge 20:07:50 dcavalca: Do you have the ticket link? 20:07:52 https://pagure.io/fedora-infra/rpmautospec/issue/204 20:08:07 I think it's blocked on pygit right now 20:08:51 Yep, looks like it 20:09:45 Well... pygit is in EPEL, right? So we don't have to do all the RHEL work arounds. 20:10:08 I think it just needs to be updated 20:11:24 Oh wow ... it's really out of date ... 0.28 vs 1.5.0 in rawhide. 20:11:43 Sorry, that's 0.26 20:12:54 #info rpmautospec needs a newer version of pygit for it to build on EPEL8. 20:13:37 If we don't have rpmautospec in epel8, can packages with the features still build in koji? 20:14:16 nope, they'll fail to build for epel branches 20:14:25 Doing a hit and run here, can't stay. The author said the macros are processed on f34 hosts so building for epel should work 20:14:33 oh ok 20:14:41 listen to michel, he knows this better :) 20:14:52 But there's an unrelated bug breaking epel now. Without epel support you just can't run fedpkg on el 20:14:53 It looks like you just can't start it from an EPEL8 machine. 20:15:04 it'll also fail in mock 20:15:11 Yep 20:15:25 We'll need to see what needs pygit2 and if it's safe to upgrade 20:15:53 Any volunteers? I know I can't this week, I'm already booked. 20:15:54 * michel ducks out 20:16:20 I can try and look at it, but not today 20:16:44 That would be great ... or tossing it to the email list might get someone else looking as well. 20:17:21 Anything else SIG related? 20:18:22 not from me, I've filed a few more bugs to get stuff branched but no updates yet 20:18:27 I'm going to move to epel-next ... carlwgeorge any progress on that 20:18:44 dcavalca: Thank you for that. 20:19:14 nothing new for epel-next this week 20:19:52 OK, then moving on to documentation 20:20:21 Petr got back to me. Turns out it wasn't that he was super busy, but that his email was all messed up. 20:21:02 We decided he was going to start with a skeleton of a few pages, and then we'll bring over the rest. 20:21:38 So, progress, and hopefully next week we have something to see. 20:22:15 Badges and Logos ... badges hasn't moved, logo I think we are getting close 20:22:25 https://pagure.io/design/issue/770 20:23:01 I also opened a ticket for a mascot - https://pagure.io/design/issue/775 20:24:08 pgreco has some stuff for open floor, as do I, so I'm going to move to the regular stuff. 20:24:10 I'm going to need a lot of swag once all this is confirmed :D 20:24:32 Ha! Yes ... we can finally have swag. :) 20:24:37 #topic EPEL-7 20:25:08 Anything for epel7 ? 20:26:00 I'll take that as a no. 20:26:04 #topic EPEL-8 20:26:11 Anything for EPEL 8? 20:26:30 yo 20:26:41 .hello ngompa 20:26:42 Eighth_Doctor: ngompa 'Neal Gompa' 20:27:03 I don't have anything in particular for EPEL8, though I am curious on tdawson's progress on KDE there :) 20:27:08 Hi Eighth_Doctor 20:28:13 For epel8-next, I plan on sending out an email tomorrow. It's pretty much done, with three more packages that should be stable tomorrow. 20:29:25 There are a couple packages I've had issues building. They aren't critical (at least to me) but I will list them in the email, and maybe get some help with that. 20:30:12 Anything else for epel8? 20:30:32 #topic General Issues / Open Floor 20:30:44 pgreco: You said you had something for open floor? 20:30:52 you go first tdawson, mine is really low prio 20:31:37 OK, mine is about redoing the default Bodhi timeout for epel updates/builds 20:32:00 Currently it is set to 14 days, and the current proposal for epel8-next is 7 days. 20:32:17 i'm fine with 7 days everywhere 20:32:25 yeap, me too 20:32:31 yes please 20:33:12 Sounds like we have 4 yes votes. 20:34:03 I don't want to say it passes, until he hear from smooge and/or kevin. 20:34:48 I'd say shoot an email so we can have a quick formal vote next week, but I doubt it will have opposition 20:34:48 They were the ones that originally put it as 14, so they might have some reason. 20:35:20 OK, will do. 20:35:45 That was quicker than I expected :) 20:35:58 pgreco: What did you have? 20:36:16 don't know how aware you guys are about the tor network 20:36:36 but there are basically 2 types of addresses, torv2 and torv3 20:37:00 torv2 has been deprecated for a while, and it is going to be removed from the code soon, even for all stable versions 20:37:04 and it will stop working 20:37:38 the maintainer has been keeping the versions up to date 20:38:07 the thing is, this is a breaking change, but not much we can do about it, and it will fall in the middle of other updates, not aligned with releases 20:38:49 don't know how much we can do about it, but I'm expecting that there will be some issues filed saying torv2 is nor working or something like that 20:38:57 I just wanted everybody to be aware 20:39:06 OK, thank you 20:39:20 Will they be removing the package? 20:39:37 not the package, the code that supports the old addresses 20:39:50 Ah, ok. 20:39:55 in fact, the code has already been removed, it just hasn't hit the stable releases yet 20:41:03 Not much we (or the maintainer) can do when a service is being discontinued. 20:41:25 exactly, it was more a heads-up than anything 20:41:30 Thanks for letting us know. I know that I wasn't aware of it. 20:42:32 the maintainer should still follow the incompat upgrade process to make noise about it 20:43:05 Correct, I was about to mention that, either to -devel or -announce, or both. 20:43:11 .whoowns tor 20:43:12 pgreco: owner: maha; admin: pwouters; commit: lmacken, skottler 20:44:02 process is -devel to discuss, then -announce when it hits testing, then -announce again when it hits stable. 20:44:31 anybody familiar in the whoowns list? 20:45:31 Looks like maha is the person who's been maintaining and building it, both Fedora and epel 20:45:54 yeap, that's what I was checking too 20:46:41 Anything else for open floor? 20:47:10 I'm drafting an email to send to maha when we're done here 20:47:27 pgreco: Thank you 20:48:55 Looks like we don't have anything else this week. I'm ok closing a few minutes early if others are too. 20:49:44 all good, 10 minutes discount ;) 20:50:03 Thank you all for coming this week. It was quieter this week, but still a good discussion. 20:50:10 Talk to ya'll next week. 20:50:18 #endmeeting