20:00:26 <tdawson> #startmeeting EPEL (2021-08-04)
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20:00:26 <tdawson> #meetingname epel
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20:00:26 <tdawson> #chair nirik tdawson bstinson pgreco carlwgeorge michel dcavalca
20:00:26 <zodbot> Current chairs: bstinson carlwgeorge dcavalca michel nirik pgreco tdawson
20:00:26 <tdawson> #topic aloha
20:00:33 <pgreco> hello!
20:00:36 <nirik> morning
20:00:44 <tdawson> Hi pgreco
20:00:46 <tdawson> Hi nirik
20:00:56 <nirik> hey tdawson
20:01:12 <dcavalca> .hi
20:01:13 <zodbot> dcavalca: dcavalca 'Davide Cavalca' <dcavalca@fb.com>
20:01:18 <tdawson> Hi dcavalca
20:01:47 <carlwgeorge> .hi
20:01:48 <zodbot> carlwgeorge: carlwgeorge 'Carl George' <carl@redhat.com>
20:01:55 <tdawson> Hi carlwgeorge
20:03:13 <tdawson> We've got most everyone already ... does anyone know if michel is going to make it?
20:04:02 <dcavalca> he was at another meeting earlier today but he's still on parental leave
20:04:38 <tdawson> Ah, ok.  Well, we'll see if he makes it.
20:05:12 <tdawson> That came out wrong ... I meant, we'll start and if he makes it, great, if not, that's ok too.
20:05:21 <tdawson> #topic Old Business
20:05:35 <tdawson> Let's start with the SIG
20:05:43 <tdawson> Any news that needs to come up?
20:06:25 <tdawson> I was wondering if the SIG is rolling along now, and do we need to keep bringing it up in the meeting each week?
20:07:01 <tdawson> Or maybe give it a Topic, similar to epel-7 and 8
20:07:22 <dcavalca> a topic seems reasonable
20:07:46 <dcavalca> fwiw my only update is that I've filed a few more tickets to get stuff branched
20:08:21 <nirik> yeah, a topic for anything that has come up would be nice.
20:08:49 <tdawson> OK, starting next week I'll add it as a topic, so we can just address anything that comes up.
20:09:36 <tdawson> OK, I'm going to move on to -next, cuz I know there is news there.
20:09:50 <tdawson> Where are we at with epel-next (specifically 9)
20:10:27 <carlwgeorge> c9s is mirrored into fedora infra
20:10:38 <tdawson> Ya!!
20:10:47 <carlwgeorge> that will allow us to set up the build target in koji
20:11:02 <dcavalca> awesome
20:11:03 <tdawson> Cool
20:11:07 * nirik nods
20:11:09 <carlwgeorge> thanks to nirik
20:11:47 <tdawson> I know this week is flock/nest, so I don't expect things to be done this week, but how long do we think it will take to setup the targets?
20:12:03 <tdawson> Thank you nirik !!
20:12:14 <carlwgeorge> no idea
20:12:27 <nirik> probibly pretty easy to do next week...
20:12:38 <carlwgeorge> here is my running doc of epel9-next tasks https://hackmd.io/@carlwgeorge/BJV_Rez6O
20:13:25 <carlwgeorge> epel9 key setup is the big unknown i think, as we didn't have to do that for epel8-next
20:13:49 <dcavalca> is epel9 signing depending on c9s signing?
20:13:51 <tdawson> Oh ya
20:14:00 <carlwgeorge> dcavalca: nope, independent
20:14:03 <nirik> it shouldn't be hard...
20:14:08 <nirik> just needs creating.
20:15:05 <carlwgeorge> that's all i got for epel-next
20:15:38 <tdawson> Great news.  Thank you both carlwgeorge and nirik for your work on that.
20:16:15 <tdawson> So, last week we voted about the default bodhi time ... but I forgot to task anyone with actually changing it.
20:16:35 <nirik> yeah, I wondered about that... but I never got around to asking.
20:17:00 <tdawson> Has anyone changed it yet?  And if not, do we have a volunteer to change it?
20:17:14 <nirik> no one has, and I can do it. it's just an ansible repo change
20:17:23 <nirik> roles/bodhi2/base/templates/production.ini.j2:fedora_epel.mandatory_days_in_testing = 14
20:17:23 <nirik> roles/bodhi2/base/templates/production.ini.j2:fedora_epel_modular.mandatory_days_in_testing = 14
20:17:38 <tdawson> nirik:  Thank you.
20:18:48 <tdawson> moving on to documentation ... I haven't heard back from Petr, so next week I'm going to start following Adam's instructions and get things started.
20:19:50 <tdawson> Hopefully by the end of next week I'll have a sceleton setup, and instructions on how to do things, then we can all help as we have time.
20:19:51 <carlwgeorge> i did it here for epel-next https://pagure.io/fedora-infra/ansible/pull-request/680, but it doesn't seem to have taken effect yet
20:21:37 <tdawson> Oh, speaking of bodhi times for epel-next, I was going to try to look at how much interaction / testing things were getting ... seems my script doesn't work anymore, so it will take me more time.
20:22:18 <carlwgeorge> the most recent epel8-next update still did the 0 days thing, so i'm assuming that while merged that playbook hasn't been run in prod yet
20:23:37 <nirik> I'm pushing the 14->7 days thing now, so re-running playbooks along with that
20:23:47 <tdawson> Cool
20:23:50 <carlwgeorge> nice
20:24:14 <tdawson> I'll have some updates next week I believe, so we'll see how it does.
20:24:26 <tdawson> I think that's it for old business.
20:24:44 <tdawson> #topic EPEL-7
20:25:00 <tdawson> Did we have anything for EPEL 7 ?
20:26:06 <tdawson> #topic EPEL-8
20:26:16 <tdawson> Anything for epel8?
20:27:05 <tdawson> #topic EPEL-Packaging-SIG
20:27:21 <tdawson> Ha ... added to the agenda already :)
20:27:34 <tdawson> Actually, I remembered something that came up about the SIG
20:27:56 <tdawson> I believe it was nirik and Eighth_Doctor were asking about if certain packages should be maintained by the SIG
20:28:10 <tdawson> I think it was epel-release and/or epel-macros
20:28:19 <Eighth_Doctor> yeah
20:28:27 <Eighth_Doctor> I think that was nirik
20:28:42 <pgreco> who is the current responsible for those?
20:28:45 <nirik> actually it was someone else...
20:28:58 <nirik> asking if the sig should maintain it when I didn't merge their PR
20:29:00 <tdawson> Does that sound like a good idea?  Or do we think too many fingers will make a mess of those?
20:29:06 <nirik> but I was out on PTO and missed it.
20:29:37 <pgreco> if the responsible is clear, I'd rather leave it there, and maybe a  "second in command"
20:29:49 <pgreco> and not too many people, like tdawson said
20:29:53 <nirik> tdawson: case in point: I merged that PR for epel8, but purposefully didn't push a build because I was waiting for another PR... but then the person that made the PR did a build and update. ;(
20:30:13 <nirik> not a big deal, but...
20:30:46 <tdawson> nirik So you think keeping it to a smaller group is how we should keep it?
20:30:47 <nirik> so, perhaps it would be good to have the sig help review pr's and such, but we coordinate who does builds?
20:30:57 <nirik> either way...
20:31:43 <dcavalca> I'm all for more people doing reviews
20:32:18 <tdawson> I'm ok either way.  Both of them have been updated when they need to be, so I don't know if we need to change things, but more eyes reviewing isn't bad either.
20:32:37 <nirik> we could also discuss on list and see if anyone has stronger thoughts on it.
20:32:46 <nirik> or just keep it as is for now and change later.
20:33:25 <tdawson> I'm ok leaving it as things are, unless someone feels strongly about it.
20:34:02 <tdawson> Currently anyone can signup to watch the packages, and do reviews.
20:34:37 <nirik> sure, true.
20:35:20 <tdawson> So, let's leave it as it is.  If you want to watch and review - https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/epel-release/
20:36:08 <tdawson> That was the only SIG thing I had.
20:36:15 <tdawson> #topic General Issues / Open Floor
20:36:59 <tdawson> Looks like we have at least 3 EPEL talks happening in Flock/Nest
20:37:48 <tdawson> That should be good ... although all of them are on Saterday
20:38:35 <tdawson> Anything else for Open Floor?
20:38:48 <pgreco> looks like we have a short one today
20:39:01 <tdawson> I'm good with that. :)
20:39:15 <pgreco> yeap
20:39:34 <carlwgeorge> i poked the epel steering committee badge ticket, as i don't know what is supposed to happen next
20:39:40 <carlwgeorge> https://pagure.io/fedora-badges/issue/829
20:40:40 <tdawson> I don't know either, I've never created a badge.
20:41:37 <tdawson> I don't know how they'll change the badge, but out of the two prototypes, I like the ant head one best. :)
20:42:10 <carlwgeorge> yeah the ant heads are good
20:42:46 <tdawson> Well, I'm going to give you 15 minutes back.  Thanks to everyone for coming, as well as thanks for all the work ya'll put in.
20:42:57 <dcavalca> thanks tdawson \
20:43:02 <tdawson> Talk to you next week, or at Flock/Next.
20:43:10 <tdawson> #endmeeting