20:00:30 <tdawson> #startmeeting EPEL (2023-10-18)
20:00:30 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Oct 18 20:00:30 2023 UTC.
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20:00:31 <tdawson> #meetingname epel
20:00:31 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'epel'
20:00:33 <tdawson> #chair nirik tdawson pgreco carlwgeorge salimma dcavalca dherrera gotmax23 smooge
20:00:33 <zodbot> Current chairs: carlwgeorge dcavalca dherrera gotmax23 nirik pgreco salimma smooge tdawson
20:00:35 <tdawson> #topic aloha
20:00:36 <pgreco> .hi
20:00:37 <zodbot> pgreco: pgreco 'Pablo Sebastian Greco' <pablo@fliagreco.com.ar>
20:00:43 <dcavalca> .hi
20:00:44 <zodbot> dcavalca: dcavalca 'Davide Cavalca' <davide@cavalca.name>
20:01:08 <michel-slm> .hello salimma
20:01:09 <zodbot> michel-slm: salimma 'Michel Lind' <michel@michel-slm.name>
20:01:19 <tdawson> Hi pgreco and dcavalca
20:01:24 <tdawson> Hello michel-slm
20:01:35 <tdawson> #chair michel-slm
20:01:35 <zodbot> Current chairs: carlwgeorge dcavalca dherrera gotmax23 michel-slm nirik pgreco salimma smooge tdawson
20:04:21 <tdawson> A little slim today ... or is everyone waiting on the matrix channel?
20:04:25 <dherrera> .hi
20:04:26 <zodbot> dherrera: dherrera 'Diego Herrera' <dherrera@redhat.com>
20:04:32 <tdawson> Hi dherrera
20:04:38 <jonathanspw> .hi
20:04:39 <zodbot> jonathanspw: jonathanspw 'Jonathan Wright' <jonathan@almalinux.org>
20:04:45 <tdawson> Hi jonathanspw
20:05:23 <tdawson> #topic End Of Life (EOL)
20:05:24 <tdawson> RHEL 7 / epel-7 will go EOL on 2024-06-30
20:05:26 <tdawson> https://endoflife.date/rhel
20:05:28 <tdawson> CentOS Stream 8 / epel-8-next goes EOL in 2024-05-31
20:05:29 <tdawson> CentOS Stream 9 / epel-9-next goes EOL in 2027-05-31
20:05:31 <tdawson> https://endoflife.date/centos-stream
20:05:40 <tdawson> #topic EPEL Issues https://pagure.io/epel/issues
20:05:42 <tdawson> https://pagure.io/epel/issues?tags=meeting&status=Open
20:06:26 <tdawson> Let's start with the membership one
20:06:30 <tdawson> .epel 252
20:06:31 <zodbot> tdawson: Issue #252: Membership request for the EPEL Packaging SIG - epel - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/epel/issue/252
20:07:34 <tdawson> Sorry ... I'm looking up the rules to make sure I didn't add it to the agenda too soon.
20:08:24 <tdawson> Ah ... https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/epel/epel-packagers-sig/#how_can_i_contribute ... it get's voted on in the ticket / issue.
20:08:35 <neil> .hi
20:08:36 <zodbot> neil: neil 'Neil Hanlon' <neil@shrug.pw>
20:08:38 <michel-slm> at any rate thanks for surfacing it so we can vote :)
20:08:50 <tdawson> So, if after a week, (which it hasn't been) nobody votes, we do it here.
20:09:02 <tdawson> But we can do it here if we want I guess, and just put the votes on there.
20:09:31 <tdawson> Does anyone know Erdinc ?
20:09:35 <pgreco> I'm trying to find out where I can get info to vote
20:09:45 <neil> +1 from me. Ali is good people!
20:09:51 <dcavalca> I've worked with him in Hyperscale and can vouch for him
20:09:52 <michel-slm> he's in the Hyperscale SIG, I voted +1 on the ticket
20:09:56 <pgreco> my first take is, he's already a member of the hyperscale, so I'd ask dcavalca
20:10:12 <dcavalca> I put a +1 in the ticket
20:10:38 <pgreco> that means +1 from me
20:10:54 <tdawson> I've seen several packages of his, which all look good, so I only have positive.
20:11:54 * tdawson notices I called him by his middle name ... sorry about that.
20:12:33 <tdawson> I haven't seen any negative votes ... looks approved to me.
20:13:14 <tdawson> #info Ali is approved for the EPEL Packagers SIG - All positive votes, more than enough to pass.
20:13:35 <tdawson> Any volunteers to add him to the packagers SIG?
20:14:28 <pgreco> I need to learn to do it, so I'll try ;)
20:14:45 <tdawson> pgreco: Thank you
20:15:04 <tdawson> Moving on
20:15:10 <michel-slm> pgreco: IIRC you just go to the group page and add Ali by his FAS
20:15:13 <tdawson> .epel 253
20:15:14 <zodbot> tdawson: Issue #253: Move weekly meetings to Matrix - epel - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/epel/issue/253
20:15:32 <pgreco> michel-slm: yeah, that was my theory
20:15:49 <tdawson> Moving to matrix doesn't have to be approved or done this week, but I wanted to start the discussion.
20:16:04 <dcavalca> as long as the bot works fine, I'm in favor of moving over to Matrix
20:16:47 <tdawson> It doesn't have the "#chair" command ... but I think that is only needed for ending meetings incase the original chair drops for some reason.
20:17:18 <dcavalca> tdawson: you should surface that in the zodbot room if you haven't already
20:17:38 <tdawson> Is there anyone here that isn't on Matrix ?
20:18:40 <michel-slm> I think chair is needed for other things like info as well?
20:19:20 <michel-slm> we can try Matrix and if any workflow does not work for people apart from the meeting starter, then move back here
20:20:22 <tdawson> Sounds good to me ... but we're a little light on people this week ... so I think I'll send an email and wait at least one more week.
20:20:41 <tdawson> Anything else before I move on?
20:21:27 <tdawson> #topic Old Business
20:22:05 * tdawson waits in vain for smooge to say something about "Old Business"
20:22:25 <michel-slm> there's no business like old business
20:22:33 <tdawson> *laughs*
20:22:35 <tdawson> Thank you
20:22:36 * neil starts playing the piano
20:22:48 * michel-slm horrifies his wife with his tap dancing
20:23:07 <michel-slm> where is smooge today?
20:23:11 <tdawson> I read through the last couple of weeks logs, and didn't see anything that I thought needed to come up ... does anyone have any old business.
20:23:52 <tdawson> I do not know.  I know carlwgeorge is out ... don't know anytthing about smooge.
20:23:52 <michel-slm> still looking at getting Django and the mailman apps that need it to EPEL 9
20:24:15 <michel-slm> but I got sidetracked with some internal / Hyperscale issues. but anyway Django CVEs are all fixed in Fedora, so we have a base to work on
20:24:39 <tdawson> That will be very nice.  Many people will be excited about that.
20:25:09 <michel-slm> yeah, there's at least one conference that wants to use EL9 once we have this
20:25:43 * neil does, too
20:25:57 <tdawson> Any other Old Business ?
20:25:58 <michel-slm> neil: for Rocky? nice
20:26:09 <neil> michel-slm: yep.. current install is.. cursed, to say the least ;)
20:26:20 <michel-slm> I'm traveling to the same event Carl is tomorrow, but will try and fire off some branch requests if I find packages we don't own
20:26:32 <michel-slm> neil: heh, I wonder if it's worse than Fedora's and CentOS's
20:27:47 <neil> y'all headed to LFNW?
20:28:03 <dcavalca> yup
20:28:06 <dcavalca> or what's left of it at least
20:28:17 <neil> heh.. yeah wasn't gonna bring that up lest I ruin the mood
20:28:31 <tdawson> Ohh ... really?
20:28:32 <neil> that'e exciting, though
20:28:47 <dcavalca> eh, worst case I'm sure we can find a coffee shop or something to just hang out together
20:28:50 <tdawson> I was debating on going to that and decided not to ... I didn't know ya'll were still going.
20:29:10 * tdawson debates on whether he should still drive over.
20:29:22 <dcavalca> tdawson: I'll add you to the matrix room where we're planning this
20:29:29 <dcavalca> sorry, I hadn't realized you were planning to come
20:29:31 <tdawson> dcavalca: Thanks
20:29:48 <neil> I've gotta sit down and figure out my calendar for next year
20:29:50 <michel-slm> oh right, it's not too far from Spokane
20:29:56 <tdawson> dcavalca: Ya, it's within driving distance ... well ... sortof a long drive, but still driving distance.
20:30:47 <neil> well i could get to Seattle for under $700 :P but then my wife would yell at me, i suspect
20:31:52 <tdawson> Anyway ... sorry, got sidetracked there.
20:32:40 <tdawson> #topic General Issues / Open Floor
20:33:08 <tdawson> Anything for Open Floor ?
20:33:45 <dcavalca> I have this abomination I shared earlier in the channel: https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/swiftlint/pull-request/1
20:34:32 <dcavalca> I'm assuming the reason we don't have %_build_id_flags in EPEL 9 is because it only showed up after f34 ? I couldn't pinpoint the exact Change it came from
20:34:53 <pgreco> with that introduction I was expecting much worse
20:35:11 <tdawson> I'm working on gpgme1.22 for epel9 ... to fix the tangled mess that the older RHEL 9 gpgme is causing in KDE.
20:35:14 <dcavalca> pgreco: I mean this whole package is pretty cursed in general lol
20:36:39 <tdawson> That's a "pull request" ... it seems more like a full package. :)
20:37:09 <michel-slm> tdawson: because it's targeting epel 9 which has no commits :)
20:37:10 <dcavalca> yeah the EPEL specific bit it just the top commit
20:37:12 <michel-slm> I was surprised too
20:37:45 <tdawson> Make sense.  Lots of comments.
20:38:51 <tdawson> Anything else?  I'm ok with closing the meeting early.
20:39:39 <dcavalca> we can end early
20:39:46 <pgreco> I'm good with that
20:40:06 <tdawson> Thank ya'll for comming, and thank you all for the work you do for EPEL and it's community.
20:40:12 <tdawson> Talk to ya'll next week.
20:40:20 <tdawson> #endmeeting