#meeting:fedoraproject.org log

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

21:00:40

!startmeeting EPEL (2024-01-03)

<@meetbot:fedora.im>

21:00:41

Meeting started at 2024-01-03 21:00:40 UTC

<@meetbot:fedora.im>

21:00:41

The Meeting name is 'EPEL (2024-01-03)'

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

21:00:49

!meetingname epel

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

21:00:54

!topic aloha

<@jonathanspw:fedora.im>

21:01:01

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

21:01:02

Jonathan Wright (jonathanspw)

<@carlwgeorge:matrix.org>

21:01:26

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

21:01:28

Carl George (carlwgeorge) - he / him / his

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

21:02:12

Hi jonathanspw Carl George

<@davide:cavalca.name>

21:02:57

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

21:02:58

Davide Cavalca (dcavalca) - he / him / his

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

21:02:58

The problem with not being able to do the !chair command, is there isn't a ping to all of the committee members.

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

21:03:10

Hi Davide Cavalca

<@smooge:fedora.im>

21:03:49

hello

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

21:04:00

Hello Stephen J Smoogen

<@nhanlon:beeper.com>

21:04:32

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

21:04:33

Neil Hanlon (neil) - he / him / his

<@salimma:fedora.im>

21:05:27

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

21:05:28

Michel Lind (salimma) - he / him / his

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

21:05:45

!topic End Of Life (EOL)

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

21:05:52

RHEL 7 / epel-7 will go EOL on 2024-06-30 https://endoflife.date/rhel CentOS Stream 8 / epel-8-next goes EOL in 2024-05-31 CentOS Stream 9 / epel-9-next goes EOL in 2027-05-31 https://endoflife.date/centos-stream

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

21:06:15

!topic EPEL Issues https://pagure.io/epel/issues

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

21:06:22

https://pagure.io/epel/issues?tags=meeting&status=Open

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

21:06:45

Ya!! ... no issues ... EPEL is now perfect. :)

<@salimma:fedora.im>

21:07:03

EPEL is always perfect #1984

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

21:07:30

!topic Old Business

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

21:07:57

And Old ... EPEL is also Old ... so old ... but not as old as Stephen J Smoogen

<@smooge:fedora.im>

21:08:29

bah humbug

<@salimma:fedora.im>

21:08:52

believe it or not some of us are probably born BUE

<@salimma:fedora.im>

21:08:55

Before UNIX Epoch

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

21:09:07

Sorry 🙃 .. it's a new year ... I'll get back on track

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

21:09:42

Does anyone have any Old Business they want to bring up.

<@smooge:fedora.im>

21:10:13

I converted my EL6 system so no

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

21:10:13

And yes ... I was born BUE ... but not by too much.

<@smooge:fedora.im>

21:10:23

me too

<@carlwgeorge:matrix.org>

21:11:13

so y'all's birthdates in epoch time are negative 🤯

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

21:11:41

Yep ... we're even worse than the 2038 bug

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

21:13:01

Other than Old Jokes, it doesn't seem like we have any Old Business.

<@salimma:fedora.im>

21:13:12

time for new business

<@smooge:fedora.im>

21:13:26

We aren't getting any younger

<@smooge:fedora.im>

21:13:34

oh different new business

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

21:13:36

!topic General Issues / Open Floor

<@jonathanspw:fedora.im>

21:13:54

Looks like FESCo is going to approve the update exception for certbot :D

<@salimma:fedora.im>

21:13:58

yay

<@rcallicotte:fedora.im>

21:15:02

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

21:15:03

Robby Callicotte (rcallicotte) - he / him / his

<@dherrera:fedora.im>

21:15:11

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

21:15:12

Diego Herrera (dherrera) - he / him / his

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

21:15:14

Hi Robby Callicotte

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

21:15:26

Hi Diego Herrera

<@carlwgeorge:matrix.org>

21:15:40

i have an open floor thing

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

21:15:49

Carl George: Go for it

<@carlwgeorge:matrix.org>

21:16:48

when we decided on the time for this meeting, we talked about revisiting it eventually. this time slot is terrible for our european friends.

<@carlwgeorge:matrix.org>

21:17:14

i believe we talked about either just doing u.s. morning time, or having an alternating time similar to the fedora social hour

<@smooge:fedora.im>

21:17:15

we have european friends?

<@nhanlon:beeper.com>

21:17:23

some of us do ;)

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

21:17:35

I'm good with doing another "pick the time" round.

<@salimma:fedora.im>

21:17:48

would be nice to hold this at a time when people like arrfab can attend

<@davide:cavalca.name>

21:17:53

I wouldn't mind moving it earlier personally

<@salimma:fedora.im>

21:18:08

yeah, I would not mind compressing all my Wed meetings to before lunch

<@carlwgeorge:matrix.org>

21:18:18

for example, for those that were on the epel office hours call earlier, james lives in ireland and would like to attend this meeting as well, but it's 9:18pm for him right now

<@rcallicotte:fedora.im>

21:19:03

I'm all for moving this meeting to an earlier time slot.

<@carlwgeorge:matrix.org>

21:19:05

we don't have to do it right now, but do you remember the tool we used for that the last time?

<@salimma:fedora.im>

21:19:13

is it whenisgood ?

<@salimma:fedora.im>

21:19:26

that's what I use normally but if there's an open source one I'm happy to try it

<@smooge:fedora.im>

21:19:35

yeah I understand.. the main problem in the past was that all the time slots for earlier were filled with FESCO, FPC, and I work for a living meetings

<@salimma:fedora.im>

21:19:55

and fesco/fpc already overlap in time which is bad enough :)

<@nhanlon:beeper.com>

21:19:58

i've used https://www.when2meet.com/ before

<@davide:cavalca.name>

21:20:27

Could do this right after office hours maybe?

<@smooge:fedora.im>

21:21:26

i think setting up a whenisgood etc and sending it to the list is a good idea

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

21:21:32

Looks like we used framadate in the past - https://framadate.org/

<@salimma:fedora.im>

21:21:43

oh yeah, I love Framapiaf stuff

<@salimma:fedora.im>

21:22:05

have never tried framadate but I'm all for it (they also have a Meetup.com clone IIRC)

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

21:23:20

OK, I'll get something setup and send it out to epel-devel

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

21:23:33

salimma has already given cookies to tdawson during the F39 timeframe

<@salimma:fedora.im>

21:23:49

I have one quick thing

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

21:24:00

Michel Lind🎩: Go for it

<@salimma:fedora.im>

21:24:26

so linux-firmware in Fedora started depending on rdfind to do some deduplication. Since I maintain a backport in Hyperscale I'm working on getting rdfind into EPEL

<@salimma:fedora.im>

21:24:27

!link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2255771

<@salimma:fedora.im>

21:24:57

it got unretired by one of the linux-firmware maintainers; going to delay pinging because it's the holidays eason so I'll needinfo it next week

<@salimma:fedora.im>

21:27:12

it got unretired by one of the linux-firmware maintainers; going to delay pinging because it's the holiday season so I'll needinfo it next week

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

21:27:18

Sounds good ... and ya, I'm betting they have a boatload of emails they are still going through.

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

21:28:45

Any other things for Open Floor?

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

21:29:23

I'm ok with ending the meeting early ... everyone seems to be on new years ... dig through the pile of work that built up.

<@davide:cavalca.name>

21:29:58

I noticed last week that nodejs-npm isn't in C9 anymore, which makes updating node packages in epel9 tricky

<@davide:cavalca.name>

21:30:20

Haven't had a chance to check why or whether it can be added, just a heads up

<@rcallicotte:fedora.im>

21:30:55

was it combined into another pkg? I think I remember seeing it combined into node?

<@davide:cavalca.name>

21:30:56

This came up as I was updating magicmirror in Fedora

<@rcallicotte:fedora.im>

21:31:20

sorry, I'm speaking of the npm command line tool

<@davide:cavalca.name>

21:31:26

Yeah npm used to be standalone, nodejs-npm is part of node but it's excluded from C9

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

21:31:39

npm (which is a subpackage of nodejs) is there.

<@davide:cavalca.name>

21:32:13

Will double check, totally possible my deps are screwed up somehow and it didn't get picked up right

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

21:32:58

Just triple checked ... my CS9 shows it - npm-8.19.4-1.16.20.2.3.el9

<@rcallicotte:fedora.im>

21:33:14

thats it!

<@smooge:fedora.im>

21:34:14

i have nothing else and have to bow out early this week. I hope you all had a good holidays and see you next week

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

21:34:29

See ya Stephen J Smoogen

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

21:35:05

Does anyone have anything else? Or should be get 25 minutes back?

<@jonathanspw:fedora.im>

21:36:13

Since it is relevant to EPEL/EL this bug is present in EL 9.3 and can be show-stopping when trying to start or migrate VMs: https://gitlab.com/libvirt/libvirt/-/issues/577

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

21:39:07

Sorry for the long pause, I was reading through that.

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

21:39:52

Thank you for the heads up.

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

21:41:06

Anything else for Open Floor?

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

21:42:23

jonathanspw: I should also say thank you for the upstream merge request.

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

21:43:15

jonathanspw: Also .. Thank you for the upstream merge request.

<@jonathanspw:fedora.im>

21:43:37

I'm trying to get RH maintainer to backport the fix to 9.3 FWIW. Dunno if he will or not.

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

21:44:59

Looks like we're stuggling for things to talk about. I'm going to close the meeting

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

21:45:24

Thank you all for all your work on EPEL and it's community. Ya'll are really great.

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

21:45:31

Talk to you next week, if not sooner.

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

21:45:43

!endmeeting

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

21:46:22

dcavalca gave a cookie to tdawson. They now have 61 cookies, 5 of which were obtained in the Fedora 39 release cycle

<@tdawson:fedora.im>

21:46:34

!endmeeting