2024-01-03 21:00:40 <@tdawson:fedora.im> !startmeeting EPEL (2024-01-03)

2024-01-03 21:00:41 <@meetbot:fedora.im> Meeting started at 2024-01-03 21:00:40 UTC
2024-01-03 21:00:41 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting name is 'EPEL (2024-01-03)'
2024-01-03 21:00:49 <@tdawson:fedora.im> !meetingname epel

2024-01-03 21:00:54 <@tdawson:fedora.im> !topic aloha

2024-01-03 21:01:01 <@jonathanspw:fedora.im> !hi
2024-01-03 21:01:02 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Jonathan Wright (jonathanspw)
2024-01-03 21:01:26 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> !hi
2024-01-03 21:01:28 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Carl George (carlwgeorge) - he / him / his
2024-01-03 21:02:12 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Hi jonathanspw Carl George 
2024-01-03 21:02:57 <@davide:cavalca.name> !hi
2024-01-03 21:02:58 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Davide Cavalca (dcavalca) - he / him / his
2024-01-03 21:02:58 <@tdawson:fedora.im> The problem with not being able to do the !chair command, is there isn't a ping to all of the committee members.
2024-01-03 21:03:10 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Hi Davide Cavalca 
2024-01-03 21:03:49 <@smooge:fedora.im> hello
2024-01-03 21:04:00 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Hello Stephen J Smoogen 
2024-01-03 21:04:32 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> !hi
2024-01-03 21:04:33 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Neil Hanlon (neil) - he / him / his
2024-01-03 21:05:27 <@salimma:fedora.im> !hi
2024-01-03 21:05:28 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Michel Lind (salimma) - he / him / his
2024-01-03 21:05:45 <@tdawson:fedora.im> !topic End Of Life (EOL)

2024-01-03 21:05:52 <@tdawson:fedora.im> RHEL 7 / epel-7 will go EOL on 2024-06-30
https://endoflife.date/rhel
CentOS Stream 8 / epel-8-next goes EOL in 2024-05-31
CentOS Stream 9 / epel-9-next goes EOL in 2027-05-31
https://endoflife.date/centos-stream

2024-01-03 21:06:15 <@tdawson:fedora.im> !topic EPEL Issues https://pagure.io/epel/issues

2024-01-03 21:06:22 <@tdawson:fedora.im> https://pagure.io/epel/issues?tags=meeting&status=Open

2024-01-03 21:06:45 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Ya!! ... no issues ... EPEL is now perfect. :)
2024-01-03 21:07:03 <@salimma:fedora.im> EPEL is always perfect #1984
2024-01-03 21:07:30 <@tdawson:fedora.im> !topic Old Business

2024-01-03 21:07:57 <@tdawson:fedora.im> And Old ... EPEL is also Old ... so old ... but not as old as Stephen J Smoogen 
2024-01-03 21:08:29 <@smooge:fedora.im> bah humbug
2024-01-03 21:08:52 <@salimma:fedora.im> believe it or not some of us are probably born BUE
2024-01-03 21:08:55 <@salimma:fedora.im> Before UNIX Epoch
2024-01-03 21:09:07 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Sorry  🙃 .. it's a new year ... I'll get back on track
2024-01-03 21:09:42 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Does anyone have any Old Business they want to bring up.
2024-01-03 21:10:13 <@smooge:fedora.im> I converted my EL6 system so no
2024-01-03 21:10:13 <@tdawson:fedora.im> And yes ... I was born BUE ... but not by too much.
2024-01-03 21:10:23 <@smooge:fedora.im> me too
2024-01-03 21:11:13 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> so y'all's birthdates in epoch time are negative 🤯
2024-01-03 21:11:41 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Yep ... we're even worse than the 2038 bug
2024-01-03 21:13:01 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Other than Old Jokes, it doesn't seem like we have any Old Business.
2024-01-03 21:13:12 <@salimma:fedora.im> time for new business
2024-01-03 21:13:26 <@smooge:fedora.im> We aren't getting any younger
2024-01-03 21:13:34 <@smooge:fedora.im> oh different new business
2024-01-03 21:13:36 <@tdawson:fedora.im> !topic General Issues / Open Floor

2024-01-03 21:13:54 <@jonathanspw:fedora.im> Looks like FESCo is going to approve the update exception for certbot :D
2024-01-03 21:13:58 <@salimma:fedora.im> yay
2024-01-03 21:15:02 <@rcallicotte:fedora.im> !hi
2024-01-03 21:15:03 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Robby Callicotte (rcallicotte) - he / him / his
2024-01-03 21:15:11 <@dherrera:fedora.im> !hi
2024-01-03 21:15:12 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Diego Herrera (dherrera) - he / him / his
2024-01-03 21:15:14 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Hi Robby Callicotte 
2024-01-03 21:15:26 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Hi Diego Herrera 
2024-01-03 21:15:40 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> i have an open floor thing
2024-01-03 21:15:49 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Carl George: Go for it
2024-01-03 21:16:48 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> when we decided on the time for this meeting, we talked about revisiting it eventually.  this time slot is terrible for our european friends.
2024-01-03 21:17:14 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> i believe we talked about either just doing u.s. morning time, or having an alternating time similar to the fedora social hour
2024-01-03 21:17:15 <@smooge:fedora.im> we have european friends?
2024-01-03 21:17:23 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> some of us do ;) 
2024-01-03 21:17:35 <@tdawson:fedora.im> I'm good with doing another "pick the time" round.
2024-01-03 21:17:48 <@salimma:fedora.im> would be nice to hold this at a time when people like arrfab can attend
2024-01-03 21:17:53 <@davide:cavalca.name> I wouldn't mind moving it earlier personally 
2024-01-03 21:18:08 <@salimma:fedora.im> yeah, I would not mind compressing all my Wed meetings to before lunch
2024-01-03 21:18:18 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> for example, for those that were on the epel office hours call earlier, james lives in ireland and would like to attend this meeting as well, but it's 9:18pm for him right now
2024-01-03 21:19:03 <@rcallicotte:fedora.im> I'm all for moving this meeting to an earlier time slot.
2024-01-03 21:19:05 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> we don't have to do it right now, but do you remember the tool we used for that the last time?
2024-01-03 21:19:13 <@salimma:fedora.im> is it whenisgood ?
2024-01-03 21:19:26 <@salimma:fedora.im> that's what I use normally but if there's an open source one I'm happy to try it
2024-01-03 21:19:35 <@smooge:fedora.im> yeah I understand.. the main problem in the past was that all the time slots for earlier were filled with FESCO, FPC, and I work for a living meetings
2024-01-03 21:19:55 <@salimma:fedora.im> and fesco/fpc already overlap in time which is bad enough :)
2024-01-03 21:19:58 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> i've used https://www.when2meet.com/ before
2024-01-03 21:20:27 <@davide:cavalca.name> Could do this right after office hours maybe?
2024-01-03 21:21:26 <@smooge:fedora.im> i think setting up a whenisgood etc and sending it to the list is a good idea
2024-01-03 21:21:32 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Looks like we used framadate in the past - https://framadate.org/
2024-01-03 21:21:43 <@salimma:fedora.im> oh yeah, I love Framapiaf stuff
2024-01-03 21:22:05 <@salimma:fedora.im> have never tried framadate but I'm all for it (they also have a Meetup.com clone IIRC)
2024-01-03 21:23:20 <@tdawson:fedora.im> OK, I'll get something setup and send it out to epel-devel
2024-01-03 21:23:33 <@zodbot:fedora.im> salimma has already given cookies to tdawson during the F39 timeframe
2024-01-03 21:23:49 <@salimma:fedora.im> I have one quick thing
2024-01-03 21:24:00 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Michel Lind🎩: Go for it
2024-01-03 21:24:26 <@salimma:fedora.im> so linux-firmware in Fedora started depending on rdfind to do some deduplication. Since I maintain a backport in Hyperscale I'm working on getting rdfind into EPEL
2024-01-03 21:24:27 <@salimma:fedora.im> !link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2255771
2024-01-03 21:24:57 <@salimma:fedora.im> it got unretired by one of the linux-firmware maintainers; going to delay pinging because it's the holidays eason so I'll needinfo it next week
2024-01-03 21:27:12 <@salimma:fedora.im> it got unretired by one of the linux-firmware maintainers; going to delay pinging because it's the holiday season so I'll needinfo it next week
2024-01-03 21:27:18 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Sounds good ... and ya, I'm betting they have a boatload of emails they are still going through.
2024-01-03 21:28:45 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Any other things for Open Floor?  
2024-01-03 21:29:23 <@tdawson:fedora.im> I'm ok with ending the meeting early ... everyone seems to be on new years ... dig through the pile of work that built up.
2024-01-03 21:29:58 <@davide:cavalca.name> I noticed last week that nodejs-npm isn't in C9 anymore, which makes updating node packages in epel9 tricky 
2024-01-03 21:30:20 <@davide:cavalca.name> Haven't had a chance to check why or whether it can be added, just a heads up
2024-01-03 21:30:55 <@rcallicotte:fedora.im> was it combined into another pkg? I think I remember seeing it combined into node?
2024-01-03 21:30:56 <@davide:cavalca.name> This came up as I was updating magicmirror in Fedora 
2024-01-03 21:31:20 <@rcallicotte:fedora.im> sorry, I'm speaking of the npm command line tool
2024-01-03 21:31:26 <@davide:cavalca.name> Yeah npm used to be standalone, nodejs-npm is part of node but it's excluded from C9 
2024-01-03 21:31:39 <@tdawson:fedora.im> npm (which is a subpackage of nodejs) is there.
2024-01-03 21:32:13 <@davide:cavalca.name> Will double check, totally possible my deps are screwed up somehow and it didn't get picked up right
2024-01-03 21:32:58 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Just triple checked ... my CS9 shows it - npm-8.19.4-1.16.20.2.3.el9
2024-01-03 21:33:14 <@rcallicotte:fedora.im> thats it!  
2024-01-03 21:34:14 <@smooge:fedora.im> i have nothing else and have to bow out early this week. I hope you all had a good holidays and see you next week
2024-01-03 21:34:29 <@tdawson:fedora.im> See ya Stephen J Smoogen 
2024-01-03 21:35:05 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Does anyone have anything else?  Or should be get 25 minutes back?
2024-01-03 21:36:13 <@jonathanspw:fedora.im> Since it is relevant to EPEL/EL this bug is present in EL 9.3 and can be show-stopping when trying to start or migrate VMs: https://gitlab.com/libvirt/libvirt/-/issues/577
2024-01-03 21:39:07 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Sorry for the long pause, I was reading through that.
2024-01-03 21:39:52 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Thank you for the heads up.
2024-01-03 21:41:06 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Anything else for Open Floor?
2024-01-03 21:42:23 <@tdawson:fedora.im> jonathanspw: I should also say thank you for the upstream merge request.
2024-01-03 21:43:15 <@tdawson:fedora.im> jonathanspw: Also .. Thank you for the upstream merge request.
2024-01-03 21:43:37 <@jonathanspw:fedora.im> I'm trying to get RH maintainer to backport the fix to 9.3 FWIW.  Dunno if he will or not.
2024-01-03 21:44:59 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Looks like we're stuggling for things to talk about.  I'm going to close the meeting
2024-01-03 21:45:24 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Thank you all for all your work on EPEL and it's community.  Ya'll are really great.
2024-01-03 21:45:31 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Talk to you next week, if not sooner.
2024-01-03 21:45:43 <@tdawson:fedora.im> !endmeeting

2024-01-03 21:46:22 <@zodbot:fedora.im> dcavalca gave a cookie to tdawson. They now have 61 cookies, 5 of which were obtained in the Fedora 39 release cycle
2024-01-03 21:46:34 <@tdawson:fedora.im> !endmeeting