2024-01-24 21:00:18 <@tdawson:fedora.im> !startmeeting EPEL (2024-01-24)
2024-01-24 21:00:19 <@meetbot:fedora.im> Meeting started at 2024-01-24 21:00:18 UTC
2024-01-24 21:00:19 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting name is 'EPEL (2024-01-24)'
2024-01-24 21:00:27 <@dherrera:fedora.im> !hi
2024-01-24 21:00:28 <@tdawson:fedora.im> !meetingname epel
2024-01-24 21:00:29 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Diego Herrera (dherrera) - he / him / his
2024-01-24 21:00:29 <@rcallicotte:fedora.im> !hi
2024-01-24 21:00:30 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Robby Callicotte (rcallicotte) - he / him / his
2024-01-24 21:00:31 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> !hi
2024-01-24 21:00:33 <@tdawson:fedora.im> !topic aloha
2024-01-24 21:00:33 <@davide:cavalca.name> !hi
2024-01-24 21:00:34 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Neal Gompa (ngompa) - he / him / his
2024-01-24 21:00:35 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Davide Cavalca (dcavalca) - he / him / his
2024-01-24 21:01:09 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Hi Diego Herrera Robby Callicotte Conan Kudo and Davide Cavalca 
2024-01-24 21:01:09 <@salimma:fedora.im> !hi
2024-01-24 21:01:10 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Michel Lind (salimma) - he / him / his
2024-01-24 21:01:35 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> !hi
2024-01-24 21:01:36 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Neil Hanlon (neil) - he / him / his
2024-01-24 21:01:41 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Hi Michel Lind🎩 and Neil Hanlon 
2024-01-24 21:02:03 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> Hiya Troy, hope your week is going well 
2024-01-24 21:02:16 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> (same to Diego, Robby, Neal, Davide, Michel) 
2024-01-24 21:02:43 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> !hi
2024-01-24 21:02:44 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Yaakov Selkowitz (yselkowitz)
2024-01-24 21:02:47 <@salimma:fedora.im> hello all
2024-01-24 21:02:51 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Neil Hanlon: There has been some good, and some not so good ... guess that means it's aveage. :)
2024-01-24 21:03:03 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Hi yselkowitz 
2024-01-24 21:03:09 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> !hi
2024-01-24 21:03:10 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Kevin Fenzi (kevin) - he / him / his
2024-01-24 21:03:13 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> good morning
2024-01-24 21:03:25 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Morning nirik 
2024-01-24 21:04:14 <@tdawson:fedora.im> yselkowitz: Always good to see you.  Are you here for a specific subject/purpose or just cuz?
2024-01-24 21:05:03 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> nothing specific
2024-01-24 21:05:13 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Sounds good.  You're always welcome.
2024-01-24 21:05:25 <@tdawson:fedora.im> !topic End Of Life (EOL)
2024-01-24 21:05:30 <@tdawson:fedora.im> RHEL 7 / epel-7 will go EOL on 2024-06-30
https://endoflife.date/rhel
CentOS Stream 8 / epel-8-next goes EOL in 2024-05-31
CentOS Stream 9 / epel-9-next goes EOL in 2027-05-31
https://endoflife.date/centos-stream
2024-01-24 21:05:48 <@tdawson:fedora.im> The clock continues to tick. :)
2024-01-24 21:05:56 <@tdawson:fedora.im> !topic EPEL Issues https://pagure.io/epel/issues
2024-01-24 21:06:02 <@tdawson:fedora.im> https://pagure.io/epel/issues?tags=meeting&status=Open
2024-01-24 21:06:35 <@jonathanspw:fedora.im> !hi
2024-01-24 21:06:36 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Jonathan Wright (jonathanspw)
2024-01-24 21:06:43 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Hi jonathanspw 
2024-01-24 21:06:48 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> !hi
2024-01-24 21:06:50 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Carl George (carlwgeorge) - he / him / his
2024-01-24 21:07:00 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Looks like no issues marked for the meeting.
2024-01-24 21:07:05 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Hi Carl George 
2024-01-24 21:07:14 <@tdawson:fedora.im> !topic Old Business
2024-01-24 21:07:30 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Do we have any Old Business?
2024-01-24 21:07:40 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Actually, I know we do ... 
2024-01-24 21:07:57 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Diego Herrera: Did you want to go with the new meeting survey?
2024-01-24 21:08:18 <@dherrera:fedora.im> sure :)
2024-01-24 21:08:29 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Diego Herrera: Did you want to go with the new meeting time survey?
2024-01-24 21:09:11 <@dherrera:fedora.im> I was just uploading the results, let me add the links
2024-01-24 21:09:27 <@dherrera:fedora.im> !link https://gitlab.com/dherrera-research/epel-2024-timeslot-survey-results/-/raw/main/EPEL-Timeslot-EVERYONE.png
2024-01-24 21:09:54 <@salimma:fedora.im> this is... Eastern Time, or UTC?
2024-01-24 21:10:06 <@dherrera:fedora.im> those are the results of the survey, all of those times are UTC
2024-01-24 21:10:39 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> definitely please not noon EST on Monday
2024-01-24 21:10:48 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> that overlaps with Fedora Blocker Review
2024-01-24 21:10:55 <@salimma:fedora.im> so our current slot is 9pm UTC on wednesday right
2024-01-24 21:11:03 <@dherrera:fedora.im> 15 people answered the survey, which is more than what we usually have in the meeting :)
2024-01-24 21:11:16 <@salimma:fedora.im> is the number the number of people who can make it?
2024-01-24 21:11:29 <@dherrera:fedora.im> I also filtered the committee availability, those results are here:
2024-01-24 21:11:33 <@dherrera:fedora.im> !link https://gitlab.com/dherrera-research/epel-2024-timeslot-survey-results/-/raw/main/EPEL-Timeslot-STEERING.png
2024-01-24 21:11:43 <@salimma:fedora.im> and... are we going to pin a UTC timezone or are we going to float it with daylight saving, whether EU or US?
2024-01-24 21:11:58 <@dherrera:fedora.im> the red dots (or numbers) are the people who can't make it to that slot
2024-01-24 21:12:06 <@salimma:fedora.im> oh
2024-01-24 21:12:19 <@salimma:fedora.im> wed 6pm utc then
2024-01-24 21:12:25 <@jonathanspw:fedora.im> now it makes sense
2024-01-24 21:12:33 <@salimma:fedora.im> that's... noon for me, I am ok taking a later liunch
2024-01-24 21:12:40 <@salimma:fedora.im> that's... noon for me, I am ok taking a later lunch
2024-01-24 21:12:48 <@salimma:fedora.im> and a bit better for Europeans
2024-01-24 21:12:49 <@davide:cavalca.name> that's 10am pst for me which is fine
2024-01-24 21:12:54 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> personally i prefer pinning to utc to make dst stuff the least painful possible
2024-01-24 21:13:06 <@yselkowitz:fedora.im> dst is always painful
2024-01-24 21:13:17 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> theres no way to avoid pain
2024-01-24 21:13:33 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> yes but it's worse when pinning to a particular country's timezone and their dst timing
2024-01-24 21:13:49 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> utc is at least a straightforward answer that everyone can do their own local math for
2024-01-24 21:13:51 <@tdawson:fedora.im> So just to be clear, the lower the number, the better?
2024-01-24 21:13:57 <@dherrera:fedora.im> yes
2024-01-24 21:14:39 <@dherrera:fedora.im> the number represents how many conflicts are at that time
2024-01-24 21:15:31 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> 18:00 UTC is fine w/ me
2024-01-24 21:15:37 <@salimma:fedora.im> wednesday is generally my no work meeting day, so floating it is not an issue on this day 
2024-01-24 21:15:49 <@salimma:fedora.im> also on monday and friday when I generally have no work meetings either
2024-01-24 21:16:03 <@tdawson:fedora.im> So 6pm (1800) UTC Wedensday is looking the best ... I'm certainly good with that.
2024-01-24 21:16:19 <@zodbot:fedora.im> salimma has already given cookies to dherrera during the F39 timeframe
2024-01-24 21:16:34 <@zodbot:fedora.im> tdawson has already given cookies to dherrera during the F39 timeframe
2024-01-24 21:16:48 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> certainly a little more forgiving to our european friends
2024-01-24 21:16:49 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> so 1pm EST :/
2024-01-24 21:17:02 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> not _terrible_ though
2024-01-24 21:17:19 <@rcallicotte:fedora.im> ah ok I see.  
2024-01-24 21:17:21 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> how are our west coast folks going to handle that?
2024-01-24 21:18:01 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Conan Kudo: That's 10am PST ... which is certainly good for me ... 
2024-01-24 21:18:02 <@rcallicotte:fedora.im> will we move the epel office hours around?  This seems to be at the same time
2024-01-24 21:18:24 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> epel office hours are 1700 utc
2024-01-24 21:18:24 <@dherrera:fedora.im> nah, office hours it's just one hour earlier than that
2024-01-24 21:19:03 <@zodbot:fedora.im> neil has already given cookies to dherrera during the F39 timeframe
2024-01-24 21:19:05 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> Lunch'n'learn for me
2024-01-24 21:19:13 <@davide:cavalca.name> Hyperscale has a Wed meeting too, but I think it's an hour earlier so it shouldn't conflict
2024-01-24 21:19:39 <@davide:cavalca.name> is centos stream office hours at 10am too?
2024-01-24 21:19:48 <@davide:cavalca.name> that's a monthly so it's probably not a huge deal if so
2024-01-24 21:19:54 <@tdawson:fedora.im> CentOS Stream has an office hours?
2024-01-24 21:20:00 <@salimma:fedora.im> it does
2024-01-24 21:20:11 <@salimma:fedora.im> well, 10am PT / 12pm CT / 1pm ET
2024-01-24 21:20:33 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Well ... I guess since I've never gone before, it's ok for me to miss it. :)
2024-01-24 21:20:43 <@salimma:fedora.im> actually no it's at 9 am PT / 12 ET
2024-01-24 21:20:44 <@rcallicotte:fedora.im> :)
2024-01-24 21:20:54 <@salimma:fedora.im> so we're just after that which is great
2024-01-24 21:21:06 <@rcallicotte:fedora.im> 1800 UTC seems like a winner to me
2024-01-24 21:21:21 <@salimma:fedora.im> and if we float with DST and they don't we actually end up with an hour extra gap so that's fine
2024-01-24 21:21:46 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Are we ready to do a vote?
2024-01-24 21:22:28 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> so yea or nay on floating with dst, i.e. pinning to utc or pinning to a timezone
2024-01-24 21:22:40 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> just to be clear on what we're voting on
2024-01-24 21:23:11 <@salimma:fedora.im> so nay means utc right?
2024-01-24 21:23:18 <@tdawson:fedora.im> That's true, beyond the time, it's also UTC vs a timezone
2024-01-24 21:23:19 <@salimma:fedora.im> yea means floating with dst?
2024-01-24 21:23:45 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> currently epel office hours pins to utc, so that makes the most sense to me
2024-01-24 21:23:54 <@salimma:fedora.im> I'm ok with UTC, our work calendar is stupid but that just means I'll have to split up the meeting series pre-summer and summer
2024-01-24 21:24:13 <@rcallicotte:fedora.im> I agree with pinning to utc
2024-01-24 21:24:19 <@tdawson:fedora.im> I'm good with UTC also.
2024-01-24 21:24:53 <@tdawson:fedora.im> OK, Vote is for 1800 UTC  (not pinning to a timezone)
2024-01-24 21:25:02 <@tdawson:fedora.im> +1
2024-01-24 21:25:06 <@dherrera:fedora.im> I would love it being pinned to UTC, since I'm in the southern hemisphere I usually end up having to deal with DTS shifts twice
2024-01-24 21:25:43 <@dherrera:fedora.im> so +1
2024-01-24 21:26:04 <@tdawson:fedora.im> I'd like to know the votes of non-committee members too.
2024-01-24 21:26:09 <@salimma:fedora.im> now I'm thinking of Netflix's Drive to Survive
2024-01-24 21:26:12 <@rcallicotte:fedora.im> +1
2024-01-24 21:26:18 <@salimma:fedora.im> +1
2024-01-24 21:26:22 <@jonathanspw:fedora.im> I'll have to miss every other meeting at that time mostly likely.  I'll abstain.
2024-01-24 21:26:30 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> +1
2024-01-24 21:26:39 <@jonathanspw:fedora.im> well it will vary based on DST lol
2024-01-24 21:26:42 <@davide:cavalca.name> +1
2024-01-24 21:26:54 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> +1
2024-01-24 21:27:09 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> +🤷
2024-01-24 21:27:30 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> my new favorite vote
2024-01-24 21:27:40 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> lol. I take mine back and replace it with nirik 's
2024-01-24 21:28:07 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> i guess in practice that would equate to a +0 vote
2024-01-24 21:28:21 <@tdawson:fedora.im> That's what I was thinking it was
2024-01-24 21:29:41 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Thus far I have Committee: 5(+1) 1(0) 0(-1)  Non-Committee: 2(+1) 1(0) 0(-1)
2024-01-24 21:29:48 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Does that look correct?
2024-01-24 21:30:42 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> 0
2024-01-24 21:30:49 <@pgreco:fedora.im> .hi
2024-01-24 21:30:54 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> I lean +1 ish, but I really don't like having such a packed early afternoon
2024-01-24 21:30:55 <@pgreco:fedora.im> sorry I'm late
2024-01-24 21:30:58 <@pgreco:fedora.im> !hi
2024-01-24 21:30:59 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Pablo Sebastian Greco (pgreco)
2024-01-24 21:31:05 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> at least it won't conflict with the CentOS board meetings anymore
2024-01-24 21:31:11 <@dherrera:fedora.im> the vote is about pinning to utc
2024-01-24 21:31:21 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> oh, no please
2024-01-24 21:31:22 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> -1
2024-01-24 21:31:33 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> UTC is a nightmare
2024-01-24 21:31:50 <@salimma:fedora.im> not pinning to UTC makes it very US-biased though
2024-01-24 21:32:03 <@dherrera:fedora.im> I prefer that than having to shift twice per semester
2024-01-24 21:32:07 <@salimma:fedora.im> it will mess up Europeans and folks in the southern hemisphere as Diego mentioned
2024-01-24 21:32:19 <@salimma:fedora.im> DST is a nightmare. it needs to die
2024-01-24 21:32:30 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> go complain to the congress people
2024-01-24 21:32:36 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> we almost killed it last year
2024-01-24 21:32:38 <@jonathanspw:fedora.im> I think we all agree dst sucks
2024-01-24 21:32:50 <@salimma:fedora.im> we did not. we tried to go permanent DST
2024-01-24 21:32:54 <@salimma:fedora.im> which is horrible for anyone with winter
2024-01-24 21:33:15 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> for the lower 48, it was pretty much fine if you want people out and exercising in the day
2024-01-24 21:33:24 <@tdawson:fedora.im> !agreed New EPEL Steering Committee meeting time will be 1800 UTC.  Votes: Committee 5(+1) 1(0) 1(-1)  Non-Committee: 2(+1) 1(0) 0(-1)
2024-01-24 21:34:06 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Hi Pablo Greco 
2024-01-24 21:34:20 <@pgreco:fedora.im> Even though I'd prefer to set it to UTC time, in my particular case most of the work meetings are US/DST based
2024-01-24 21:34:54 <@pgreco:fedora.im> but tbf, I'll go with what the majority decides, it's gonna be a mess anyway 😆
2024-01-24 21:35:04 <@smooge:fedora.im> hello 
2024-01-24 21:35:13 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Hello Stephen J Smoogen 
2024-01-24 21:35:31 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> I'll be Pablo's proxy vote /s
2024-01-24 21:35:36 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Pablo Greco: So, should I put you down for a 0, or a -1 ?
2024-01-24 21:35:36 <@salimma:fedora.im> not all. upper midwest, WA, new england get dark really fast if you force +1 in winter
2024-01-24 21:35:48 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> I live in new england :)
2024-01-24 21:36:00 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> DST would mean I'd have darkness one hour later most of the year
2024-01-24 21:36:04 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> yeeeee
2024-01-24 21:36:06 <@salimma:fedora.im> anyway we all hate DST differently for different reasons, we should move on
2024-01-24 21:36:17 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> Kill All Timezones
2024-01-24 21:36:30 <@salimma:fedora.im> we should all use stardate anyway
2024-01-24 21:36:42 <@rcallicotte:fedora.im> metic time ftw
2024-01-24 21:36:57 <@rcallicotte:fedora.im> metric time ftw
2024-01-24 21:37:08 <@pgreco:fedora.im> 0, I'm good either way, whatever makes less of a mess for the majority
2024-01-24 21:38:28 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> where _do_ the majority of people on EPSCo live?
2024-01-24 21:38:36 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Stephen J Smoogen: Did you have a preference before I do my final edit?  1800 UTC (pinned to UTC) or pinned to some specific timezone (usually EST)
2024-01-24 21:38:49 <@smooge:fedora.im> i am good with the decision
2024-01-24 21:38:56 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> that's classified
2024-01-24 21:39:01 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> lol
2024-01-24 21:39:48 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> "an undisclosed location" ?
2024-01-24 21:39:59 <@tdawson:fedora.im> !undo
2024-01-24 21:40:15 <@tdawson:fedora.im> !agreed New EPEL Steering Committee meeting time will be 1800 UTC.  Votes: Committee 5(+1) 2(0) 1(-1)  Non-Committee: 3(+1) 1(0) 0(-1)
2024-01-24 21:40:18 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> sorry, no undo... all part of the new crewely.
2024-01-24 21:40:18 <@salimma:fedora.im> batcave
2024-01-24 21:40:35 <@smooge:fedora.im> you can only go forward never backward
2024-01-24 21:40:49 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Ah well ... it's the same outcome, just not as strong as before.
2024-01-24 21:42:06 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Thank you all for participating in the survey, and thank you Diego Herrera for setting up the survey and getting the results put together.
2024-01-24 21:42:22 <@smooge:fedora.im> Diego Herrera++
2024-01-24 21:42:24 <@zodbot:fedora.im> smooge gave a cookie to dherrera. They now have 14 cookies, 6 of which were obtained in the Fedora 39 release cycle
2024-01-24 21:42:47 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Do we have any other Old Business before we move on?
2024-01-24 21:43:32 <@salimma:fedora.im> oh. do we have enough people for the FOSDEM booths?
2024-01-24 21:43:44 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> Diego Herrera: would you mind posting about the new meeting time on the announce list to spread the word?
2024-01-24 21:43:54 <@dherrera:fedora.im> sure!
2024-01-24 21:44:13 <@tdawson:fedora.im> !topic General Issues / Open Floor
2024-01-24 21:44:20 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> i haven't signed up for any time slots, but will be around
2024-01-24 21:44:33 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Michel Lind🎩: I switched to open floor for that.
2024-01-24 21:45:04 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Do we have an EPEL booth?  :)   ... or are you meaning CentOS and/or Fedora?
2024-01-24 21:45:18 <@pgreco:fedora.im> I'll be around
2024-01-24 21:45:38 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> the latter, centos and fedora booths, i was planning to float between them
2024-01-24 21:45:38 <@salimma:fedora.im> centos and/or Fedora I guess
2024-01-24 21:45:45 <@salimma:fedora.im> yeah, same
2024-01-24 21:46:12 <@smooge:fedora.im> for those going, please have some waffles and crepes for me
2024-01-24 21:46:15 <@jonathanspw:fedora.im> I'll be there
2024-01-24 21:46:29 <@salimma:fedora.im> and beer and mussels and "French" fries
2024-01-24 21:46:32 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Stephen J Smoogen: deal ... 
2024-01-24 21:46:32 <@davide:cavalca.name> I'll be around as well, there's a sizeable Meta contigent at FOSDEM too
2024-01-24 21:46:51 <@davide:cavalca.name> don't forget the mechanically reclaimed meat from the stand
2024-01-24 21:47:08 <@salimma:fedora.im> from the stand... this is not "soylent green" right?
2024-01-24 21:47:15 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> Stephen J Smoogen instructions unclear, I'll bring some home in my suitcase
2024-01-24 21:47:20 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> i have one item to call attention to here in open floor, the issue with using forge and bootstrap macros in epel9-next should nwo be resolved https://pagure.io/releng/issue/10852
2024-01-24 21:47:21 <@davide:cavalca.name> almost: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frikandel
2024-01-24 21:47:28 <@davide:cavalca.name> "cylindrical meat product"
2024-01-24 21:47:32 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> i have one item to call attention to here in open floor, the issue with using forge and bootstrap macros in epel9-next should now be resolved https://pagure.io/releng/issue/10852
2024-01-24 21:47:41 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> we'll need to get good sandwiches together again
2024-01-24 21:47:49 <@jonathanspw:fedora.im> I'm game!
2024-01-24 21:48:19 <@gui1ty:fedora.im> Stroopwafels anyone?
2024-01-24 21:48:46 <@salimma:fedora.im> oh yeah. We have something derived from that in Indonesia - and looks like South Africa has it too, unsurprisingly https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frikkadel
2024-01-24 21:48:55 <@davide:cavalca.name> pro tip: go to the waffle stand at the entrace in the morning, and ask for a bag of random waffle pieces
2024-01-24 21:48:59 <@salimma:fedora.im> though the one with an 'n' in it is longer shaped somehow
2024-01-24 21:49:03 <@smooge:fedora.im> well good luck to you all
2024-01-24 21:49:20 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> happy waffling!
2024-01-24 21:49:25 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Since we're on the subject.  Will there be enough people around for us to have a meeting next week?   A meeting on Matrix I mean.
2024-01-24 21:49:41 <@salimma:fedora.im> will it be at the new or old time?
2024-01-24 21:49:43 <@rcallicotte:fedora.im> I will be around
2024-01-24 21:49:59 <@davide:cavalca.name> I should be around, depending on how the jet lag goes
2024-01-24 21:50:02 <@salimma:fedora.im> it's the day before connect so if it's the new meeting time, sure
2024-01-24 21:50:07 <@salimma:fedora.im> if it's the old one probably too late at night
2024-01-24 21:50:09 <@salimma:fedora.im> 10 pm!
2024-01-24 21:50:28 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> 10pm i'll be ~~drinking at a bar~~ in my pjs sleeping
2024-01-24 21:50:36 <@tdawson:fedora.im> That's right, it's the day before connect ... I actually should be available if we have it at the new time.
2024-01-24 21:50:37 <@salimma:fedora.im> why not both
2024-01-24 21:50:40 <@rcallicotte:fedora.im> yeah 10pm is beer-thirty
2024-01-24 21:50:44 <@salimma:fedora.im> go to the bar in your PJs and fall asleep there
2024-01-24 21:50:50 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> 🍻
2024-01-24 21:50:53 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> i'll be around next week for it, modulo jetlag ofc
2024-01-24 21:51:05 <@salimma:fedora.im> time to check my Timeshifter settings
2024-01-24 21:51:18 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> yeah should be 7pm brussels time
2024-01-24 21:51:50 <@tdawson:fedora.im> OK, then I'll try to make it ... and we'll see how many of us are on.
2024-01-24 21:52:25 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> i have nothing against cancelling if lots of folks are busy, whether it be jet lag recovery, last minute slide prep, or just socializing at the event
2024-01-24 21:52:42 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> I try not to plan that far ahead :D
2024-01-24 21:52:42 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Wait ... shouldn't it be 5pm Brussels time?  Isn't Europe 1 hour ahead?
2024-01-24 21:53:08 <@salimma:fedora.im> 6 pm UTC so 7 pm brussels
2024-01-24 21:53:10 <@salimma:fedora.im> one hour ahead
2024-01-24 21:53:11 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Nope ... it's 7pm
2024-01-24 21:53:16 <@salimma:fedora.im> not behind :)
2024-01-24 21:53:25 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> most of Europe is on Central European Time (CET)
2024-01-24 21:53:28 <@salimma:fedora.im> but yea mapping time to spatial words like ahead and behind is always confusing
2024-01-24 21:54:35 <@tdawson:fedora.im> We're getting close to the end of the meeting.  Does anyone have anything else for Open Floor?
2024-01-24 21:55:51 <@tdawson:fedora.im> I also agree with Carl, I don't have anything about canceling next week if we don't have anything to discuss.
2024-01-24 21:56:22 <@tdawson:fedora.im> I'm sortof surprised nobody brought up "provides" ... but I'm not going to if nobody else does.
2024-01-24 21:56:37 <@smooge:fedora.im> well what are you providing?
2024-01-24 21:56:54 <@salimma:fedora.im> "provides"
2024-01-24 21:56:55 <@salimma:fedora.im> ?
2024-01-24 21:57:07 <@smooge:fedora.im> i am ok with cancelling next week as I expect jet lag will take many of you out
2024-01-24 21:57:13 <@tdawson:fedora.im> It goes along with "bundled"
2024-01-24 21:57:34 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> What is golang?
2024-01-24 21:57:46 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> oh, not Jeopardy. sorry.
2024-01-24 21:57:59 <@smooge:fedora.im> Neil Hanlon wins by asking in the form of a question
2024-01-24 21:58:01 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> are you referring to the singularity-ce thread from the mailing list
2024-01-24 21:58:12 <@smooge:fedora.im> oh god 
2024-01-24 21:58:17 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Yep
2024-01-24 21:58:20 <@smooge:fedora.im> I was hoping to forget that
2024-01-24 21:58:20 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> 🙈
2024-01-24 21:58:40 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> i would say that stephen answered sufficiently on list
2024-01-24 21:58:48 <@smooge:fedora.im> wait I did?
2024-01-24 21:58:55 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> gallagher
2024-01-24 21:59:00 <@tdawson:fedora.im> The other Stephen
2024-01-24 21:59:03 <@smooge:fedora.im> ah the real stephen
2024-01-24 21:59:06 <@smooge:fedora.im> not the fake one
2024-01-24 21:59:27 <@smooge:fedora.im> i think i muted that thread by 'accident'
2024-01-24 21:59:28 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> honestly i don't think of you as stephen at all, you're smooge.  you've got the coolest name out of all of us.
2024-01-24 22:00:10 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Well, our time is up ... 
2024-01-24 22:00:26 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Thank you all for being here, and thank you all for all you do for EPEL and it's community.
2024-01-24 22:00:38 <@rcallicotte:fedora.im> Bye everybody 
2024-01-24 22:00:42 <@tdawson:fedora.im> I'll talk to you next week ... for many that will be literal.
2024-01-24 22:00:51 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> Thank you, Troy! See (some of) y'all in Brussels :D
2024-01-24 22:01:14 <@tdawson:fedora.im> !endmeeting